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    Re: John Bolton has "relevant" information on Ukraine probe not yet disclosed, lawyer says

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    I’m not worried about Jim Jordan. The man is a professional buffoon. He bellows the talking point, the name calling and the vitriol with the very best of them.

    But that’s all he’s got. That’s all any of them have.

    The moment that Donald Trump has always dreaded is before us. The whole thing is about to go up on live television. For a lot of Americans, it will become real for the first time.

    I can’t say what will happen after that.
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    Re: John Bolton has "relevant" information on Ukraine probe not yet disclosed, lawyer says

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    I think it might be a critical mistake to not pursuit the two first-person witnesses - Mulvaney & Bolton.

    Why they don't pursue them, I don't know.
    I don't know about Bolton, but Mulvaney won't testify because he will either have to perjure himself or spill the beans. He's screwed either way.
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    Re: John Bolton has "relevant" information on Ukraine probe not yet disclosed, lawyer says

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    It wasn't Bolton who Congress was talking about when they dropped the idea of subpoenaing someone. It was an ex-aide to Bolton...Charles Kupperman. Kupperman had asked a court to rule on whether he was required to comply with a subpoena. The House Dems decided to drop the court case and not call on him.

    Kupperman2019 11 6

    We'll see how it goes with Bolton.

    In any event, there's no way of knowing...by the lawyer's statement...whether this information Bolton has will help either the House Dems or Trump.

    Stay tuned...
    True and it could go either way. We have to wait and see.
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    Re: John Bolton has "relevant" information on Ukraine probe not yet disclosed, lawyer says

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    We've undermined the credibility of every country that involves themselves with us.

    "That guy isn't guilty, they're allies with the US and you know what that means."

    We haven't merely harmed ourselves, we've harmed all of our allies.
    Yep. Good luck getting foreign intelligence cooperation from deeply embedded sources from other nations.
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    Re: John Bolton has "relevant" information on Ukraine probe not yet disclosed, lawyer says

    Quote Originally Posted by Torus34 View Post
    I believe your 'take' falls at least within the 9 ring. Mr. John Bolton may be aware that he, in the name of Trump, has committed offenses which are punishable. The Democrats in Congress may know of these, or at least suspect them. Thus, we see the pas de deux as each seeks the most while ceding the least. It would be a great time to be the fly on the wall, nu?

    Regards.
    I believe Bolton is aware he and several others are liable to get thrown under the bus by the administration/GOP. So with that letter, Bolton put them on notice.
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    Re: John Bolton has "relevant" information on Ukraine probe not yet disclosed, lawyer says

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    I don't know about Bolton, but Mulvaney won't testify because he will either have to perjure himself or spill the beans. He's screwed either way.
    Agreed.
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    Re: John Bolton has "relevant" information on Ukraine probe not yet disclosed, lawyer says

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Yep. Good luck getting foreign intelligence cooperation from deeply embedded sources from other nations.
    We threw everyone under the bus.

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    Re: John Bolton has "relevant" information on Ukraine probe not yet disclosed, lawyer says

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    I think it might be a critical mistake to not pursuit the two first-person witnesses - Mulvaney & Bolton.

    Why they don't pursue them, I don't know.
    Why don't they pursue them?

    Quite simple really. Do you have any idea how long it would take to wind through the courts. It would wind up in the supreme court. Really would be an interesting case. What are the limitations on executive branch powers and congressional powers concerning our checks and balances. Could bring about a Constitutional Crisis.

    Pelosi has decided she has enough now. No time to waste. Sure the Republicans would love to drag it.out in court but Pelosi will just add an obstruction charge to the list instead.

    If Trump was really innocent wouldn't he want those closest to him to testify?

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