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Sondland Updates Impeachment Testimony, Describing Ukraine Quid Pro Quo

MauiMan said:
Except that Trump was withholding military assistance
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all aid to Ukraine was always withheld based on corruption investigations. Obama did not even give them military aid at all yet then Democrats were fine with it, and with helping Putin. Democrats are sickening- right??
 
Exactice said:
We are doing this QPQ investigation YET there is NO crime that actually happened.
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Biden-the anti corruption Czar- corruptly taking $50k a month and laundering it though his son is not a crime???
 
Exactice said:
Actually I ill try this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...59b3b8-ffec-11e9-9518-1e76abc088b6_story.html

Sonland Corrects his story..

In a “supplemental declaration” provided to the House impeachment inquiry Monday, Sondland wrote, “I now recall speaking individually” with a Ukrainian official and in that conversation saying “that resumption of U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anti-corruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks.”


His aim was a public anti-corruption statement by Ukraine to release the AID. burden of proof falls on the accuser. I would like you to show me WHERE. Trump directed Zelensky, NOT just hear say.. But a direct transcript to which it was a specific request of personal political gain.

A multi facted statement was made... NOT specific to Burisma, and Biden. But Crowdstrike, 2016 election, The Fired Prosecutor, His disdain for Maire Yovanavich. BUT NOTHING proves it was a direct personal political hit job on the Bidens....
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Except every single witness has said he had to announce an investigation of Biden. I'm not at my computer but I can point it out in the testimony
 
prometeus said:
Its not lack of obedience or indifference. Maybe (s)he forgot the name...:lol:
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No, Great Pyrenees are known for ignoring you when you call them, the breed is highly intelligent, but they are very stubborn....God forbid a butterfly fart 3 blocks away, he will hear that
 
James972 said:
all aid to Ukraine was always withheld based on corruption investigations. Obama did not even give them military aid at all yet then Democrats were fine with it, and with helping Putin. Democrats are sickening- right??
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That was a stupid post. I’m sure you are better than that, James972. Try again, but this time think really, really, really hard. Things will begin to make sense soon.
 
ClaraD said:
Except every single witness has said he had to announce an investigation of Biden.
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and???? Trump is chief investigator, in this case of the Biden $50k per month bribe laundered through his son, and he wanted assurance that Ukraine would actually do the investigation. Seem like a good tactic to me. Do you understand??
 
James972 said:
Biden-the anti corruption Czar- corruptly taking $50k a month and laundering it though his son is not a crime???
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Calling Major Tom, come in Major Tom, can you hear me Major Tom?
 
James972 said:
and???? Trump is chief investigator, in this case of the Biden $50k per month bribe laundered through his son, and he wanted assurance that Ukraine would actually do the investigation. Seem like a good tactic to me. Do you understand??
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That's a lie. Do you understand you've been lied to?
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Calling Major Tom, come in Major Tom, can you hear me Major Tom?
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Biden-the anti corruption Czar- corruptly taking $50k a month and laundering it though his son is not a crime??? Can you say why its not and why Biden stopped taking the money??
 
James972 said:
Biden-the anti corruption Czar- corruptly taking $50k a month and laundering it though his son is not a crime??? Can you say why its not and why Biden stopped taking the money??
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Take it to the conspiracy theory forum, please, this is some heavy duty alternative history crap.

I'm ignoring any further whack from you.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Take it to the conspiracy theory forum, please, this is some heavy duty alternative history crap.

I'm ignoring any further whack from you.
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there is no conspiracy. Biden does not deny he took the money. Do you understand??
 
Athanasius68 said:
The issue would be the nature of the appointment.
Perhaps its was legit.
Thats what investigations are for.
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When do we investigate companies appointing Board members? Never. Unless it's Trump wanting to inviestigate the son of his political rival.
 
James972 said:
Biden-the anti corruption Czar- corruptly taking $50k a month and laundering it though his son is not a crime??? Can you say why its not and why Biden stopped taking the money??
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It's a lie, untrue, unproven, specious. It's not a crime because it didn't happen as you accuse. You've been sold a massive pig in a poke, and you bought it hook line and sinker. Do you need a few more metaphors in the mix?
 
ClaraD said:
Except every single witness has said he had to announce an investigation of Biden. I'm not at my computer but I can point it out in the testimony
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Every witness has heard from another source. As of current the only person that had direct contact and testified was Sonland. EVERYONE else has heard from other aid/staff or from Sonland or related.

No one has references the President as saying it directly. Its all been interpretation of what they thought they heard.


The REALLY weird key factor is.

Trump whom SPOKE directly with Zelensky, shows ZERO proof that he had extorted, bribed or forced Zelensky.

Taylor who is the Ambassador during the concerning period Confirmed 2 of the 3 meetings that they had NO idea Aid was held and the 3rd meeting after the media reports were released the aid topic came up BUT without any link, connection or indication of contingencies of the aid to be released.


SO if the Presidents by transcript prove it.
the ACTUAL Ambassador that spoke directly to the Ukraine president proves it...

here are these accusations that the "president" said, the Aid is contingent on a Burisma/Biden investigation? This just strikes me weird. Everything is based on "interpretation and opinion from hearing it" But the facts show no evidence of that actually transpiring.
 
Exactice said:
Every witness has heard from another source. As of current the only person that had direct contact and testified was Sonland. EVERYONE else has heard from other aid/staff or from Sonland or related.

No one has references the President as saying it directly. Its all been interpretation of what they thought they heard.


The REALLY weird key factor is.

Trump whom SPOKE directly with Zelensky, shows ZERO proof that he had extorted, bribed or forced Zelensky.

Taylor who is the Ambassador during the concerning period Confirmed 2 of the 3 meetings that they had NO idea Aid was held and the 3rd meeting after the media reports were released the aid topic came up BUT without any link, connection or indication of contingencies of the aid to be released.


SO if the Presidents by transcript prove it.
the ACTUAL Ambassador that spoke directly to the Ukraine president proves it...

here are these accusations that the "president" said, the Aid is contingent on a Burisma/Biden investigation? This just strikes me weird. Everything is based on "interpretation and opinion from hearing it" But the facts show no evidence of that actually transpiring.
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the transcript has yet to be released. Ask yourself why he only released the memo and why he would need a favor before releasing the money? Mafia bosses usually use the same terminolgy...they never say, I have a quid pro quo for you.
 
James972 said:
you don't think Biden took $50K per month????
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do you collect your paycheck on payday? Why shouldn't he collect his paycheck? I know tons of people that worked for Enron, none of them gave back their paychecks and it is clear that Enron was a sleezy company.
 
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