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House Democrats release first transcripts from impeachment probe

ocean515 said:
It's more than just the same thing.

Biden confessed to a crime, with a time limit to execute his demands, or else.

If you don't think Biden's confessed actions are a crime, then President Trump is innocent of any wrong doing, and this impeachment is the sham people know it is.
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I'll entertain your nonsense.

Fine. Lock him and trump up. Deal?
 
ettoremathedi said:
I'll entertain your nonsense.

Fine. Lock him and trump up. Deal?
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No. Lock Biden up for his admitted crime.

It's is in the President's preview to have corruption investigated.

Learn something about the rights of the Executive Branch before posting again on this subject.
 
ocean515 said:
No. Lock Biden up for his admitted crime.

It's is in the President's preview to have corruption investigated.

Learn something about the rights of the Executive Branch before posting again on this subject.
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:lol: :lol: So you say "If you say biden is innocent, then Trump is also innocent"

I say "fine, then let's do it"

"Well, biden is the one who committed a crime"

:lol:

Dismissed.
 
ocean515 said:
No, I think you missed the confession where Biden threatened a Nation to protect his son, and his own political ambition.
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Why ot learn the details before spouting the usual moronic drivel?
 
ettoremathedi said:
:lol: :lol: So you say "If you say biden is innocent, then Trump is also innocent"

I say "fine, then let's do it"

"Well, biden is the one who committed a crime"

:lol:

Dismissed.
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My statement is one that points to logic. Not guilt. If Biden did nothing, then President Trump did nothing.

If you want to discuss guilt, Biden should be in jail.

Perhaps logic is a challenge for you.
 
JasperL said:
Yeah, thugs directing U.S. foreign policy to enrich themselves, and President too stupid and uninterested to notice (in the best scenario), IS a fabulous reason for impeachment. So is bypassing the official arms of government and engaging in secret diplomacy with corrupt individuals. Etc. It's a breach of duty at BEST, and abuse of power in the normal interpretation. Either way, clearly impeachable.
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A president doesnt have to have follow the "official arms of government" in foreign policy. Moreover, plenty of presidents have used private emissaries in foreign policy endeavors. It is certainly a poor reason for impeachment.
If there were people who were trying to bend USA foreign policy to their own ends, by all means it should be investigated.
 
Moot said:
Well, you're the one trying to compare Trump to Obama....and you failed miserably.
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I am simply pointing out that all presidents will undertake actions that they think will electorally benefit themselves.
All you are doing is arguing is that Obama public statements that he would do so mean other things.
Its just political.
in other words, there is no particular reason to impeach or have impeached, either trump or obama.
 
apdst said:
So, how do we know ALL the facts have been released? Are we supposed to just take Schiff's word for it?
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Not only from the phone call but now also from the witnesses that testified before the committee.

:2wave:
 
Athanasius68 said:
A president doesnt have to have follow the "official arms of government" in foreign policy. Moreover, plenty of presidents have used private emissaries in foreign policy endeavors. It is certainly a poor reason for impeachment.
If there were people who were trying to bend USA foreign policy to their own ends, by all means it should be investigated.
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If the POTUS allows the foreign policy of the United States to be dictated by thugs and their thug lawyer, it's IMO impeachable. YMMV, but then there's nothing Trump can do that would be impeachable it appears in the eyes of the Trump cultists and lapdogs and sycophants, so when the standard is "anything goes" I'm not interested in discussing that standard.
 
ocean515 said:
A question you should keep asking yourself, and actually put into practice.
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Great kindergarten come back. Why don't you lay out the exact sequence of events and what was doen by whom if you are so well informed?
 
Athanasius68 said:
I am simply pointing out that all presidents will undertake actions that they think will electorally benefit themselves.
All you are doing is arguing is that Obama public statements that he would do so mean other things.
Its just political.
in other words, there is no particular reason to impeach or have impeached, either trump or obama.
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Those things are as equal as Obama promoting on his presidential twitter Obamacare to the public, and Trump using his presidential twitter to promote HIS SON'S book.

Both "promoting things they want accomplished'', right? No problem there? No conflict of interests, no personal gain? Will you say "well, Obama is also looking to make a profit, because if Obamacare works, he gets great speaking deals in 10 years?"

Come on..stop spinning
 
apdst said:
Asking for a favor isn't a QPQ.
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USC Title 52-VOTING AND ELECTIONS

§30121. Contributions and donations by foreign nationals
(a) Prohibition
It shall be unlawful for-
(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or

(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
 
Marine Electric said:
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USC Title 52-VOTING AND ELECTIONS

§30121. Contributions and donations by foreign nationals
(a) Prohibition
It shall be unlawful for-
(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or

(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
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Issue a fine, like Sanders and Obama got and move on, then.
 
This is a good time to do campaign and trying to swing the districts back to the republicans because the democrats doesn’t care about any agenda. They just lied to win to play stupid games or with “their staffers”. ( a Katie Hill joke.) this has went from a simple question to something that is stupid


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Rudy is a punk and, I’m sorry but the president has to cut the guy because he is a nickel-head. I honestly would hire someone who is actually practicing law. I don’t care if he’s a New Yorker or street rat no offense. Rudy is outdated


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ocean515 said:
No, I think you missed the confession where Biden threatened a Nation to protect his son, and his own political ambition.

It is within the preview of any President of the United States to investigate corruption from government officials anywhere evidence points to it, or in the case of Biden, where there is an outright confession of it.
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Well that's what isn't substantiated. The context was making US aid dependent on the firing of a prosecutor who was not investigating corruption well enough to the previous administration's liking. The rest of the conjecture you're referring to hasn't been corroborated, so if there is indeed substance to it, then there should be an investigation. Trump's problem is he made the investigation about Biden specifically and adding conditions like Zelensky making a public announcement about the investigation. If you don't think that should raise questions, then you're entitled to your opinion, but the point that Trump made set this up and it raising concerns for those involved is why we are where we are.
 
Marine Electric said:
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Not only from the phone call but now also from the witnesses that testified before the committee.

:2wave:
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So people are paying for shirts that are factually incorrect? Man. I'll give Trump kudos for turning an impeachment inquiry into a t-shirt business though.
 
ElChupacabra said:
So people are paying for shirts that are factually incorrect? Man. I'll give Trump kudos for turning an impeachment inquiry into a t-shirt business though.
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He's an idiot but more-to-the-point, his fans are idiots.

The irony is -- they refuse to read -- if they spent 5 minutes reading ANYTHING, they would stop supporting this criminal moron.

You.can't.make.this.****.up!!

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