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C.I.A. Got Tip on al-Baghdadi's Location From Arrest of a Wife and a Courier

If Obama got credit for Osama then Trump gets credit for al-Baghdadi. Plus weren't Pelosi and Schiff just telling us how Trump had turned Syria over to ISIS? It was a setup they fell for it.
 
ataraxia said:
The CIA and the Pentagon managed to pull this off this despite Trump, not because of him. The sudden pull out from Syria, done without any consultation or even a heads up to them, and the sudden deterioration of relationships with the Kurds, completely blindsided them and significantly complicated their work. Fortunately, they were professional enough to be able to finish the job anyway.
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See folks perfect example of another hit piece by the NYT. then this is what we expect.
congrats to trump for getting the number 1 most wanted terrrorist out there and congrats to
our special forces for executing a perfect plan.

leftist can and cry like they have been doing since 2016.
the rest of us will celebrate.
 
Dans La Lune said:
Funny how Russia got first billing in the credits for the raid. In return, they spit in Trump's face. Meanwhile the Kurds provided the intel that made the raid possible, and were only a passing mention.

Also, it appears Trump was more of an impediment to the success of the raid than anything.

Trump nearly derailed Baghdadi raid, told Russia before telling Congress | Salon.com
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see folks this is where uninformed media can't get it right.

the reason that trump informed russia was because the attack was taking place in russian air space.
this is something that is important to note that you let another country know what you are doing so they do not
shoot your helicopters down.

thanks to trump and all the intelligence officers out there and the special forces units that allowed them to take this guy down.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
As near as I can work out the timings, the raid took place around 1830hrs (Damascus Time) which would have meant that it took place around 1230 (Washington DC Time). Feel free to check the timezone conversion.

That would mean, assuming that the world rotates in the direction which I think it does, that it would have been entirely possible for Mr. Trump to be playing golf when the raid took place.

[ASIDE - Of course Mr. Trump was NOT out playing golf when the raid took place. Where was he? Well, it would probably be a breach of national security regulations if I told you that Mr. Trump was out with the Delta Force personnel and personally leading the attack, so I won't tell you that.]
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The aircraft might have been wheels up at 6:30 pm, but the assault force wasn't on target at 6:30 pm. Time on target til bagdaddy offed himself wan't 7.5 hrs.
 
Grand Mal said:
Not from what I read. He was on the golf course at 3:30 when the raid was happening. That pic of him sitting perfectly centered under the Presidential Seal was taken about 2 hours later, after the fact.

https://mobile.twitter.com/petesouza/status/1188471757579194371?s=21

Unless you can link to something that says he was in a conference while the raid was happening.
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Yeah you need to take that BS to the Conspiracy Theory section :lol:

Snopes says the timeline matches up to Trumps story. Was a Photo of Trump in the White House Situation Room Staged?
 
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TU Curmudgeon said:
As near as I can work out the timings, the raid took place around 1830hrs (Damascus Time) which would have meant that it took place around 1230 (Washington DC Time). Feel free to check the timezone conversion.

That would mean, assuming that the world rotates in the direction which I think it does, that it would have been entirely possible for Mr. Trump to be playing golf when the raid took place.

[ASIDE - Of course Mr. Trump was NOT out playing golf when the raid took place. Where was he? Well, it would probably be a breach of national security regulations if I told you that Mr. Trump was out with the Delta Force personnel and personally leading the attack, so I won't tell you that.]
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Snopes says
Idlib, Syria, was six hours ahead of Eastern time on the day the raid occurred, so if the operation was indeed unfolding between 11:00 p.m. and midnight in Syria, that would correspond to the interval from 5 p.m. and 6:00 p.m. in Washington, D.C., at a time when the situation room photograph’s metadata indicated it was snapped.
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Was a Photo of Trump in the White House Situation Room Staged?


Trump was in the situation room during the attack.
 
lemmiwinx said:
If Obama got credit for Osama then Trump gets credit for al-Baghdadi. Plus weren't Pelosi and Schiff just telling us how Trump had turned Syria over to ISIS? It was a setup they fell for it.
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I mean, I'll give credit to Trump for al-Baghdadi, but by your standards, should Trump give himself credit?

"Stop congratulating Obama for killing Bin Laden. The Navy Seals killed Bin Laden." - Trump 10/22/12.
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Geoist said:
All the "Thank you, Mr. Presidents" on the forum are sickening. It would have been sickening to me if it were any other president, but it is especially sickening when it is Corporal Bone-spurs. The ones who planned and executed the operation should be the ones we thank. Glad they were able to complete the mission in spite of the orange buffoon's knee-jerk decisions.
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To be honest, all the "Thank yous" from Republicans are mainly for keeping people who look like a Jesus Christ out of our country.
 
PoliSciXtina said:
But it’s the truth. Cry all you want about how the trump haters don’t give him credit. He doesn’t really deserve it. Not after reading this. The C.I.A. deserves the real credit but I know, you think our entire intel is “deep state”... yeah yeah yeah.


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Yes. It must be true. The New York Slimes would never lie. This was a unbiased nonpartisan "report" from the slimes right? I'm surprised it didn't say Adam Schiff was in command of operations and Pelosi killed Baghdadi. Yeah! That's the ticket!:lamo:lamo
 
mrdeltoid said:
Yes. It must be true. The New York Slimes would never lie. This was a unbiased nonpartisan "report" from the slimes right? I'm surprised it didn't say Adam Schiff was in command of operations and Pelosi killed Baghdadi. Yeah! That's the ticket!:lamo:lamo
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New York Times has been amazingly accurate in all of their reporting, from the impending departure of John Kelly to the children’s detention centers at the border. The rare times they have made a mistake, they have apologized.
 
ataraxia said:
New York Times has been amazingly accurate in all of their reporting, from the impending departure of John Kelly to the children’s detention centers at the border. The rare times they have made a mistake, they have apologized.
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NYT is a partisan rag. A newspaper that changes a headline because it was positive about Trump tells you everything you need to know. Left wing butt kissing cowards.
 
Phys251 said:
(Couldn't find another reliable source that wasn't behind a paywall so this will have to do. Clear your browser cookies and you can read the article.)

C.I.A. Got Tip on al-Baghdadi’s Location From Arrest of a Wife and a Courier - The New York Times

From the files of "you can't make this **** up if you tried" comes the latest debacle by the Dear Leader:





Let's recap:

1. The CIA has been following al-Baghdadi for a long time.
2. They finally get the intel on his location that they needed to give the US military the info they needed for a precise strike on him.
3. The commander-in-chief pulls the rug out from under the whole operation with his latest blunder.
4. The operation goes through despite Trump's meddling and is a success.

So. If you're glad that al-Baghdadi is dead, you should be praising the CIA and condemning Trump. I'd like to see ONE of our resident Trump supporters unconditionally do that. :)
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So he was taken out by the deep state we are being told to hate by all the trumpetes. Go figure.
 
poweRob said:
So he was taken out by the deep state we are being told to hate by all the trumpetes. Go figure.
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Actually it was a few bad actors in the leadership that politically weaponized the intel community. The same way you politicized this operation.
 
SLC said:
Yeah you need to take that BS to the Conspiracy Theory section :lol:

Snopes says the timeline matches up to Trumps story. Was a Photo of Trump in the White House Situation Room Staged?
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You read that repirt? Snopes says the pic was possibly taken before the operation was complete, not that Trump was there when it started.
Your boy's a liar, he was scooped off the golf course after the operation was underway and led into that situation room posed pic. Smart money says he wasn't aware it was going to happen, he was told what was going on when it was already happening.
But hey, he could tell from overhead video that al-Baghdadi was crying in an underground tunnel so maybe he really is The Chosen One.
 
HAL9000 said:
I mean, I'll give credit to Trump for al-Baghdadi, but by your standards, should Trump give himself credit?
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He should get credit for authorizing the mission. Had it failed, you would give him ALLLLLL the blame.
 
apdst said:
He should get credit for authorizing the mission. Had it failed, you would give him ALLLLLL the blame.
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^ this

and yes, i would have

kudos also to the kurds, intelligence community, and especially the troops

delighted it was possible to get the russians and syrians and turks to stand down while our choppers were in air space they controlled
 
justabubba said:
^ this

and yes, i would have

kudos also to the kurds, intelligence community, and especially the troops

delighted it was possible to get the russians and syrians and turks to stand down while our choppers were in air space they controlled
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Actually, they did take fire on the ride in, but I haven't heard who is suspected. There's no telling.
 
apdst said:
He should get credit for authorizing the mission. Had it failed, you would give him ALLLLLL the blame.
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They got DNA, so I trust he's really dead now, but al-Baghdadi was closely missed and falsely reported dead/injured/arrested a bunch of times. Didn't get me too worked up.
 
Grand Mal said:
You read that repirt? Snopes says the pic was possibly taken before the operation was complete, not that Trump was there when it started.
Your boy's a liar, he was scooped off the golf course after the operation was underway and led into that situation room posed pic. Smart money says he wasn't aware it was going to happen, he was told what was going on when it was already happening.
But hey, he could tell from overhead video that al-Baghdadi was crying in an underground tunnel so maybe he really is The Chosen One.
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To people who actually know how these things work they know the president would have had to approve an operation like this beforehand.

But yeah I agree with the general sentiment that trump is an idiot.
 
braindrain said:
To people who actually know how these things work they know the president would have had to approve an operation like this beforehand.

But yeah I agree with the general sentiment that trump is an idiot.
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Why? Why would he have to approve it? See, I can easily believe that Trump is being kept on a short leash, and I can also believe that he could be told an opportunity arose that couldn't last through any delay so it was jumped on. Would a reasonable man okay that kind of operation and then go play a round of golf and get picked up and brought back to the situation room as it was being wrapped up? That requires a bit of believing.
 
Grand Mal said:
Why? Why would he have to approve it? See, I can easily believe that Trump is being kept on a short leash, and I can also believe that he could be told an opportunity arose that couldn't last through any delay so it was jumped on. Would a reasonable man okay that kind of operation and then go play a round of golf and get picked up and brought back to the situation room as it was being wrapped up? That requires a bit of believing.
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Because that is how authorities work in the US military. Certain operations require certain levels of approval that can not be avoided. A secret operation that crosses another countries borders is not happening without POTUS approval.

These types of things are set in stone and are not negotiable. Authorities and approvals are spelled out in writing and there is no way around it.
 
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