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Man sprays bear repellent during California Trump protest

TU Curmudgeon said:
Since it has been judicially determined that "action is speech" (for the purpose of the US constitution), I'm waiting for the first of Mr. Trump's supporters to spring to the defence of someone who "was only exercising his First Amendment rights".

I realize that this thread is going to sink like a stone, but would you like to place a bet on how many more than 1,000 posts it would receive if the arrogant, stupid, pathetic, loser with the bear spray had NOT been a supporter of Mr. Trump?

PS - We've already received the first "But that's DIFFERENT!!!" post.
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The counterfactual is very strong in this one.

Is there no topic for debate that involves things that actually have happened as opposed to conjecture about what would have happened if...?
 
year2late said:
What kind of bear repellent Black Bear or Polar Bear?
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1. Polar Bears are "white" (mostly, although "dingy white-yellowish grey" is closer).

2. Black Bears are not "white".

3. Your guess as to what type of bear repellent was used is as good as mine.
 
AProudLefty said:
So not Antifa this time?
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Nope, just some patriotic, hard working, patriotic, honest, patriotic, real, patriotic, true, patriotic, conservative, patriotic, Christian patriotic, White, patriotic, American, patriotic, **P*A*T*R*I*O*T**.
 
I note that no one at all has defended this guy's actions.

That's encouraging.
 
Crosscheck said:
Well, from the article he is on parole. So am not certain how that will effect all of this but surely this is a parole violation.

So knowing he is on parole and that there are tv cameras everywhere he decides to do this.

Can we just assume he isn't a member of Mensa?
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If you mean that question literally, no we can't. If you mean that question figuratively, yes we can.

We can also assume (without much chance of being contradicted by facts) that he is a member of "Claque Trump".
 
lurchadams said:
This is worse than the right's paranoid fantasies about Antifa because these were peaceful protesters. When Antifa and groups like "the proud boys" commit violence against each other, both groups are looking for a fight and both groups are therefore, disgusting thugs.
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Like MS-13, Anitfa is largely a manufactured boogeyman, created by fox-news to further scare the dog-**** out of their cowardly audience.

In reality, Antifa is like 20 trust-fund college kids whose numbers greatly dwindle when daddy cuts-off the credit card and makes them go back to attending classes.

:lamo
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Actually, in CA, it's just 'battery'. "Assault" is something else.
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Technically you cannot have a "battery" WITHOUT an "assault" - although it is quite possible to have an "assault" without a "battery".

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Section 240 - An assault is an unlawful attempt, coupled with a present ability, to commit a violent injury on the person of another.

Section 242 - A battery is any willful and unlawful use of force or violence upon the person of another.
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In short, Under the California Criminal Code, an "assault" is an unsuccessful attempt to commit a "battery" that could have been successful.
 
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TU Curmudgeon said:
Technically you cannot have a "battery" WITHOUT an "assault" - although it is quite possible to have an "assault" without a "battery".

California Criminal Code references


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Section 240 - An assault is an unlawful attempt, coupled with a present ability, to commit a violent injury on the person of another.

Section 242 - A battery is any willful and unlawful use of force or violence upon the person of another.

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In short, Under the California Criminal Code, an "assault" is an unsuccessful attempt to commit a "battery" that could have been successful.
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Yes, I know, but here in CA, they're simply two different things. The term 'assault and battery' is never used in charging documents.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Nope, just some patriotic, hard working, patriotic, honest, patriotic, real, patriotic, true, patriotic, conservative, patriotic, Christian patriotic, White, patriotic, American, patriotic, **P*A*T*R*I*O*T**.
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Damn, he must have been justified then, being a patriot and such.....
 
joko104 said:
I recall when the Democratic Party's vice presidential candidate's ADULT son attacked people going to a Trump rally by throwing incendiaries, explosives and pepper sprayed them and exactly NO ONE on this forum and not ONE Democratic official criticized it in the slightest. Accordingly, it is clear what that person did - who may well be a Democrat doing a false flag - is 100% fully acceptable to nearly every Democrat on this forum and 100% of Democratic elected officials and candidates.
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Is that a digest of the term paper you submitted for "Whataboutism 101"?
 
vanceen said:
The counterfactual is very strong in this one.

Is there no topic for debate that involves things that actually have happened as opposed to conjecture about what would have happened if...?
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You may not have noticed it but the usual claque that supports Mr. Trump regardless of what he does or says (and also regardless of whether what he does or says is the direct opposite of what he did or said previously [and also regardless of whether what he does or says has any actual connection to either reality or facts]) have not yet - not even once - condemned the actions of this arrogant, stupid, pathetic, loser?
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Yes, I know, but here in CA, they're simply two different things. The term 'assault and battery' is never used in charging documents.
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I don't know the term used in California, but here in BC an "assault" (as used in the California Code) would be a "lesser, included, offence" if the person was charged with a "battery" (as used in the California Code) and the person could be convicted of committing an "assault" (as used in the California Code) even if they were acquitted of committing a "battery" (as used in the California Code).
 
Bodhisattva said:
If this guy had been ANTIFA all liberals would be applauding...
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Why? Isn't anarchy a far-right philosophy? Small-government conservatism taken to it's extremity?
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Since it has been judicially determined that "action is speech" (for the purpose of the US constitution), I'm waiting for the first of Mr. Trump's supporters to spring to the defence of someone who "was only exercising his First Amendment rights".

I realize that this thread is going to sink like a stone, but would you like to place a bet on how many more than 1,000 posts it would receive if the arrogant, stupid, pathetic, loser with the bear spray had NOT been a supporter of Mr. Trump?

PS - We've already received the first "But that's DIFFERENT!!!" post.
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Bear repellent is essence of skunk. A tomato juice wash will eliminate the stench.
 
Grand Mal said:
Why? Isn't anarchy a far-right philosophy? Small-government conservatism taken to it's extremity?
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The first anarchists were from the Italian left. Rising during the wars to unite Italy and free it of foreign influences during the late 17th century through the 18th. Anarchism was quickly adopted by the left in the Balkans, funded by the Germans to spark WWI via the assassination of the Archduke of Serbia.

Left or right, both have experienced the proxy battles of anarchism.
 
Time to finish your original sentence mensa boy.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
You may not have noticed it but the usual claque that supports Mr. Trump regardless of what he does or says (and also regardless of whether what he does or says is the direct opposite of what he did or said previously [and also regardless of whether what he does or says has any actual connection to either reality or facts]) have not yet - not even once - condemned the actions of this arrogant, stupid, pathetic, loser?
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For one thing, "not condemning" is not what you predicted.

For another, I've seen lots of condemnations in this thread. Now, I don't have the list of who is and who isn't in the "usual claque", but some of the condemners (Felis Leo, for example) are hardly flaming lefties.
 
SLC said:
Salon Really What a garbage source can you say smear? Ngo has been seen hanging with ATIFA too
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Forget that it's Salon because they presented video footage, thank you.
Andy Ngo is on tape planning the whole thing.
Sorry, but ever since, not much has been heard about your hero.

Why are you guys trying to create these zombies anyway?
Andy Ngo, Jacob Wohl, James O'Keefe...why do you think creating an alternate reality is going to hold up?
All you guys are doing is monkey-see monkey-do because Trump does it.
It's not working for him either.

I am not Antifa, I am not an Antifa supporter, almost no liberal on this board is.
And yet you guys keep trying to paint Antifa as the face of the Democrats.
Give it up, it's not working.
Your guys got caught instigating violence at Santa Monica Pier yesterday.
 
Grand Mal said:
Isn't anarchy a far-right philosophy?
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No.

But, then again, if someone doesn't know what "anarchy" is, I can see how they could believe someone else who tells them that that is what they must believe.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
No.

But, then again, if someone doesn't know what "anarchy" is, I can see how they could believe someone else who tells them that that is what they must believe.
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Anarchy is the absence of government.
 
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