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    Re: HUD officials knowingly failed 'to comply with the law,' stalled Puerto Rico hurricane relief fu

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    If not, then it should be a simple and straight forward task to point out exactly what specific law, as enacted by congress, Ben Carson (or someone else in HUD) has personally violated. There are simply too many vague "do what we meant" laws that are used to "account for" spending $4T annually.
    Did you even read the piece? Are you familiar with the term "knowingly"? This was a pretty straight forward and simple Congressional mandated deadline for the department to issue its funding notices for disaster claims. HUD was suppose to publish funding notices for 18 states. They successfully complied with the mandated deadline and published all of them except the one for Puerto Rico. Why do you suppose that was?
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    Re: HUD officials knowingly failed 'to comply with the law,' stalled Puerto Rico hurricane relief fu

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I read that, but that doesn't answer my question.
    Your question is irrelevant because the department's IG letter to Carson said it didn't see any reason for the audit to hold up the release of desperately needed funds to Puerto Rico.

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    Re: HUD officials knowingly failed 'to comply with the law,' stalled Puerto Rico hurricane relief fu

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    Your question is irrelevant because the department's IG letter to Carson said it didn't see any reason for the audit to hold up the release of desperately needed funds to Puerto Rico.
    I don't see the opinion of the IG having any bearing. But the actual audit might. The IG isn't the one who makes the decision.

    That makes my question relevant.
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    Re: HUD officials knowingly failed 'to comply with the law,' stalled Puerto Rico hurricane relief fu

    I like Carson's understanding of the situation. Corruption doesn't get fed.
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    Re: HUD officials knowingly failed 'to comply with the law,' stalled Puerto Rico hurricane relief fu

    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic Kid View Post
    Did you even read the piece? Are you familiar with the term "knowingly"? This was a pretty straight forward and simple Congressional mandated deadline for the department to issue its funding notices for disaster claims. HUD was suppose to publish funding notices for 18 states. They successfully complied with the mandated deadline and published all of them except the one for Puerto Rico. Why do you suppose that was?
    You tell me since you seem to be very knowledgable about the matter. Perhaps you should volunteer to serve as an expert witness.
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    Re: HUD officials knowingly failed 'to comply with the law,' stalled Puerto Rico hurricane relief fu

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    If not, then it should be a simple and straight forward task to point out exactly what specific law, as enacted by congress, Ben Carson (or someone else in HUD) has personally violated. There are simply too many vague "do what we meant" laws that are used to "account for" spending $4T annually.
    Funny those laws were just fine until trump the crooks and his merry band of incompetents came to the government.
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    Re: HUD officials knowingly failed 'to comply with the law,' stalled Puerto Rico hurricane relief fu

    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic Kid View Post
    Have you read and understood anything past the mention of the audit? Such as. "However, a letter from HUD Inspector General Rae Oliver Davis to Carson stated that the office never said the audit would have serious or significant findings and did not recommend that HUD should withhold funding to Puerto Rico."
    Just because they didn't say it doesn't mean it can't be true. An audit to determine if Puerto Rico can manage the funds effectively is exactly the sort of fiscal responsibility we should have an interest in.

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    Re: HUD officials knowingly failed 'to comply with the law,' stalled Puerto Rico hurricane relief fu

    Quote Originally Posted by Praxas View Post
    Funny those laws were just fine until trump the crooks and his merry band of incompetents came to the government.
    I would imagine that very little turnover in those actually doing the work at HUD has occurred - those folks are likely more than happy not to be assigned that work.
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    Re: HUD officials knowingly failed 'to comply with the law,' stalled Puerto Rico hurricane relief fu

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I would imagine that very little turnover in those actually doing the work at HUD has occurred - those folks are likely more than happy not to be assigned that work.
    Well, that's what happens when you have a turnover and hire lousy people. This only has proven why it's important to you know, actually have people that know their jobs instead of having a priority that you just kiss the ring of this administration and BAM you got a job.
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    Re: HUD officials knowingly failed 'to comply with the law,' stalled Puerto Rico hurricane relief fu

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I don't see the opinion of the IG having any bearing. But the actual audit might. The IG isn't the one who makes the decision.

    That makes my question relevant.
    Of course you wouldn't. What else would we expect? Your question remains irrelevant because the IG said the audit should have no bearing on the release of the funds and two of it's top officials admitted before the House Appropriations Committee that the department failed to comply with the law.

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