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    Sen. Mitt Romney raises a troubling theory about Trump and Turkey

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    Sen. Mitt Romney raises a troubling theory about Trump and Turkey


    Sen. Mitt Romney delivered perhaps the most thorough Republican rebuke of President Trump’s Syria withdrawal Thursday, calling Trump’s abandonment of the Kurds there “a bloodstain on the annals of American history.”

    But while that line will get a lot of play, there’s something else Romney said that shouldn’t escape notice. He also floated a theory about how Trump arrived at the decision: that he got bullied into it by Turkey and that he backed down.


    “It’s been … suggested that Turkey may have called America’s bluff, telling the president they are coming no matter what we did,” said Romney, of Utah. “If that’s so, we should know it. For it would tell us a great deal about how we should deal with Turkey, now and in the future.”

    Romney then returned to the idea that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan might have given Trump an ultimatum that was met with acquiescence.

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    Considering that what Turkey wanted was a 20-mile-wide zone of control in northern Syria and an end to the autonomous Kurdish political unit of Rojava and what Turkey got was a 20-mile-wide zone of control in northern Syria and an end to the autonomous Kurdish political unit of Rojava, Mr. Romney's supposition doesn't appear to be all that far fetched.

    Of course the facts that the Turkish government quickly has said that it has NOT signed off on any "deal", and also considering that, it is also taking the position that the "deal" is not a ceasefire and also considering that the Syrian Kurdish leaders are rather miffed about the "deal" because they weren't consulted at all (and that they also completely reject the "deal"), make it seem that Mr. Romney's speculation is even less far fetched.
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    Re: Sen. Mitt Romney raises a troubling theory about Trump and Turkey

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
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    Sen. Mitt Romney raises a troubling theory about Trump and Turkey


    Sen. Mitt Romney delivered perhaps the most thorough Republican rebuke of President Trump’s Syria withdrawal Thursday, calling Trump’s abandonment of the Kurds there “a bloodstain on the annals of American history.”

    But while that line will get a lot of play, there’s something else Romney said that shouldn’t escape notice. He also floated a theory about how Trump arrived at the decision: that he got bullied into it by Turkey and that he backed down.


    “It’s been … suggested that Turkey may have called America’s bluff, telling the president they are coming no matter what we did,” said Romney, of Utah. “If that’s so, we should know it. For it would tell us a great deal about how we should deal with Turkey, now and in the future.”

    Romney then returned to the idea that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan might have given Trump an ultimatum that was met with acquiescence.

    COMMENT:-

    Considering that what Turkey wanted was a 20-mile-wide zone of control in northern Syria and an end to the autonomous Kurdish political unit of Rojava and what Turkey got was a 20-mile-wide zone of control in northern Syria and an end to the autonomous Kurdish political unit of Rojava, Mr. Romney's supposition doesn't appear to be all that far fetched.

    Of course the facts that the Turkish government quickly has said that it has NOT signed off on any "deal", and also considering that, it is also taking the position that the "deal" is not a ceasefire and also considering that the Syrian Kurdish leaders are rather miffed about the "deal" because they weren't consulted at all (and that they also completely reject the "deal"), make it seem that Mr. Romney's speculation is even less far fetched.
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    Re: Sen. Mitt Romney raises a troubling theory about Trump and Turkey

    The logical response to Turkey "going rogue" and (permanently?) militarily occupying a neighboring country's territory should be ejection from NATO, no more USAID funds and imposing the already promised extreme economic sanctions/penalties. I doubt any of that will happen because the MIC profits handsomely (and in return bestows loads of campaign cash upon congress critters) by having Turkey treated like a US ally in good standing.
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    Re: Sen. Mitt Romney raises a troubling theory about Trump and Turkey

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
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    Sen. Mitt Romney raises a troubling theory about Trump and Turkey


    Sen. Mitt Romney delivered perhaps the most thorough Republican rebuke of President Trump’s Syria withdrawal Thursday, calling Trump’s abandonment of the Kurds there “a bloodstain on the annals of American history.”
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    Romney is no Republican and I would 100% expect Romney to betray our NATO ally Turkey because "Backstabber" is Romney's middle name.

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    Re: Sen. Mitt Romney raises a troubling theory about Trump and Turkey

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The logical response to Turkey "going rogue" and (permanently?) militarily occupying a neighboring country's territory should be ejection from NATO, no more USAID funds and imposing the already promised extreme economic sanctions/penalties. I doubt any of that will happen because the MIC profits handsomely (and in return bestows loads of campaign cash upon congress critters) by having Turkey treated like a US ally in good standing.
    I think Turkey has been trending east for a while now....
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    Re: Sen. Mitt Romney raises a troubling theory about Trump and Turkey

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexedgar View Post
    I think Turkey has been trending east for a while now....
    That was certainly hinted at when they started buying arms from Russia, but such actions are apparently hard to read as signs of trouble while they still have ties to (i.e. are a source of profit for) the US MIC.
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    Re: Sen. Mitt Romney raises a troubling theory about Trump and Turkey

    Anal bloodstains sounds pretty bad. Trump should get that checked out.

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    Re: Sen. Mitt Romney raises a troubling theory about Trump and Turkey

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    From The Washington Post

    Sen. Mitt Romney raises a troubling theory about Trump and Turkey


    Sen. Mitt Romney delivered perhaps the most thorough Republican rebuke of President Trump’s Syria withdrawal Thursday, calling Trump’s abandonment of the Kurds there “a bloodstain on the annals of American history.”

    But while that line will get a lot of play, there’s something else Romney said that shouldn’t escape notice. He also floated a theory about how Trump arrived at the decision: that he got bullied into it by Turkey and that he backed down.


    “It’s been … suggested that Turkey may have called America’s bluff, telling the president they are coming no matter what we did,” said Romney, of Utah. “If that’s so, we should know it. For it would tell us a great deal about how we should deal with Turkey, now and in the future.”

    Romney then returned to the idea that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan might have given Trump an ultimatum that was met with acquiescence.

    COMMENT:-

    Considering that what Turkey wanted was a 20-mile-wide zone of control in northern Syria and an end to the autonomous Kurdish political unit of Rojava and what Turkey got was a 20-mile-wide zone of control in northern Syria and an end to the autonomous Kurdish political unit of Rojava, Mr. Romney's supposition doesn't appear to be all that far fetched.

    Of course the facts that the Turkish government quickly has said that it has NOT signed off on any "deal", and also considering that, it is also taking the position that the "deal" is not a ceasefire and also considering that the Syrian Kurdish leaders are rather miffed about the "deal" because they weren't consulted at all (and that they also completely reject the "deal"), make it seem that Mr. Romney's speculation is even less far fetched.
    So Turkey, a Nato Ally, calls and says they are going to move their army into an area in Syria in order to secure their border and we need to get our 50 guys out of the way so none of them get injured, and we are supposed to do what?
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    Re: Sen. Mitt Romney raises a troubling theory about Trump and Turkey

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    So Turkey, a Nato Ally, calls and says they are going to move their army into an area in Syria in order to secure their border and we need to get our 50 guys out of the way so none of them get injured, and we are supposed to do what?
    Yes, because until now it’s been completely common for US allies to attack us militarily. As usual your position requires the pretense of absolute obtuseness.

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    Re: Sen. Mitt Romney raises a troubling theory about Trump and Turkey

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Yes, because until now it’s been completely common for US allies to attack us militarily. As usual your position requires the pretense of absolute obtuseness.
    Of course, you didnt answer the question. Care to give it a try or are you just here to take up space?
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