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    China says U.S. must kill all tariffs to resolve trade feud

    From United Press International

    China says U.S. must kill all tariffs to resolve trade feud

    Oct. 17 (UPI) -- China said Thursday the Trump administration must lift all tariffs on its U.S.-bound exports if it wants to end the long-running trade dispute, but also indicated it's open to a partial deal.

    Beijing's commerce ministry said the moves would be of mutual interest.

    "The ultimate goal for the negotiations between the two sides is to end the trade war, cancel all additional tariffs," commerce minister Gao Feng said. "This is good for China, good for the U.S. and good for the whole world."

    The United States agreed last week to postpone new punitive tariffs that would've taken effect on Tuesday.

    COMMENT:-

    For the cynical, that works out to "You can claim a victory over us on the condition that you give us everything that we ask for and we don't have to give you anything that you wanted.".

    For the non-cynical, that works out to "You can claim a victory over us on the condition that you give us everything that we ask for and we don't have to give you anything that you wanted.".

    For "Claque Trump", that works out to "President Trump has won the greatest trade war victory in the history of the United States of America.".

    For Donald Trump, that works out to "See how easy it is to win a trade war! China has capitulated totally and unconditionally! I told you that I was the greatest and I am the greatest!.".
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    Re: China says U.S. must kill all tariffs to resolve trade feud

    China adopted the Turkish model. I guess Phase One is on hold?
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    Re: China says U.S. must kill all tariffs to resolve trade feud

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
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    China says U.S. must kill all tariffs to resolve trade feud

    Oct. 17 (UPI) -- China said Thursday the Trump administration must lift all tariffs on its U.S.-bound exports if it wants to end the long-running trade dispute, but also indicated it's open to a partial deal.

    Beijing's commerce ministry said the moves would be of mutual interest.

    "The ultimate goal for the negotiations between the two sides is to end the trade war, cancel all additional tariffs," commerce minister Gao Feng said. "This is good for China, good for the U.S. and good for the whole world."

    The United States agreed last week to postpone new punitive tariffs that would've taken effect on Tuesday.

    ~snipped your uninteresting comments~
    Sorry China, it doesn't work that way. We will end tariffs AFTER you make the deal we want. If you don't like that, fine. Enjoy the tariffs...which will be getting worse, btw.

    China either doesn't understand, or they are trying to BS people. The ultimate goal for the US isn't to end the trade war. It's to get the deal we want.
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    Re: China says U.S. must kill all tariffs to resolve trade feud

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Sorry China, it doesn't work that way. We will end tariffs AFTER you make the deal we want. If you don't like that, fine. Enjoy the tariffs...which will be getting worse, btw.

    China either doesn't understand, or they are trying to BS people. The ultimate goal for the US isn't to end the trade war. It's to get the deal we want.
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    Re: China says U.S. must kill all tariffs to resolve trade feud

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    From United Press International

    China says U.S. must kill all tariffs to resolve trade feud

    Oct. 17 (UPI) -- China said Thursday the Trump administration must lift all tariffs on its U.S.-bound exports if it wants to end the long-running trade dispute, but also indicated it's open to a partial deal.

    Beijing's commerce ministry said the moves would be of mutual interest.

    "The ultimate goal for the negotiations between the two sides is to end the trade war, cancel all additional tariffs," commerce minister Gao Feng said. "This is good for China, good for the U.S. and good for the whole world."

    The United States agreed last week to postpone new punitive tariffs that would've taken effect on Tuesday.

    COMMENT:-

    For the cynical, that works out to "You can claim a victory over us on the condition that you give us everything that we ask for and we don't have to give you anything that you wanted.".

    For the non-cynical, that works out to "You can claim a victory over us on the condition that you give us everything that we ask for and we don't have to give you anything that you wanted.".

    For "Claque Trump", that works out to "President Trump has won the greatest trade war victory in the history of the United States of America.".

    For Donald Trump, that works out to "See how easy it is to win a trade war! China has capitulated totally and unconditionally! I told you that I was the greatest and I am the greatest!.".
    **** China... the USA needs to take a hard stance on these ****ers for decades if need be, until China deals fairly...

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    Re: China says U.S. must kill all tariffs to resolve trade feud

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    I Understand that there are current and upcoming vacancies on Mr. Trump's staff. Have you considered applying for them. It really doesn't matter what your background, education, training, or experience is because you have the one absolutely unalterably essential quality that Mr. Trump desires in his advisors and assistants.
    Yes. An understanding of his goals and his methods for achieving them.

    All others need not apply.
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    Re: China says U.S. must kill all tariffs to resolve trade feud

    If I had voted for Trump. I would be mighty upset with his complete inability to negotiate anything. Since I didn't, I rather enjoy that he is more ineffective on getting deals done than I ever imagined. We need less pointless consumerism.

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    Re: China says U.S. must kill all tariffs to resolve trade feud

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    **** China... the USA needs to take a hard stance on these ****ers for decades if need be, until China deals fairly...
    Unfortunately not everyone defines "deals fairly" as being "no matter what the transaction, the United States of America MUST make a profit and everyone else MUST take a loss".

    I do understand that some people do define it that way, but not everyone does.
    I was told that the best things for me were to eat healthy foods, walk up hills, stop smoking cigars, and cut out drinking Scotch.
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    Re: China says U.S. must kill all tariffs to resolve trade feud

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    Unfortunately not everyone defines "deals fairly" as being "no matter what the transaction, the United States of America MUST make a profit and everyone else MUST take a loss".

    I do understand that some people do define it that way, but not everyone does.
    That is not what I was referring to...

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    Re: China says U.S. must kill all tariffs to resolve trade feud

    Quote Originally Posted by Drawdown View Post
    If I had voted for Trump. I would be mighty upset with his complete inability to negotiate anything. Since I didn't, I rather enjoy that he is more ineffective on getting deals done than I ever imagined. We need less pointless consumerism.
    He is doing more against China than any President in History (regarding trade inequalities, at least).

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