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Complaint could make up to 234K Wisconsin voters ineligible

TU Curmudgeon

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From ABC News

Complaint could make up to 234K Wisconsin voters ineligible
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More than a quarter-million voters in Wisconsin identified as having moved could be made ineligible to vote before next year's presidential primary election if a complaint filed Wednesday by a conservative law firm is successful.

The Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty argues that the state Elections Commission broke the law when it decided to wait up to two years, rather than 30 days, to make ineligible voters who may have moved. The complaint asks for that decision to be immediately revoked, which could lead to as many as 234,000 voters losing their eligibility until they can confirm their addresses or re-register.

The outcome could affect how many voters are able to cast ballots in both the April presidential primary and November 2020 general election in Wisconsin, a key swing state that both sides are targeting. President Donald Trump narrowly won the state by less than 23,000 votes in 2016.

The concern from liberals is that younger and lower income voters who are more likely to vote Democratic are also more likely to be flagged as movers. The result, they fear, is that more Democrats would be made ineligible than Republicans, making it more difficult for them to vote.

COMMENT:-

"Hey Gang! I've got an idea, let's make almost 10% of the voters ineligible to vote because they didn't do something that we didn't tell them they had to do in order to remain eligible to vote (mainly because we sent the notices that they had to update their addresses to the addresses they had moved from rather than to the addresses they had moved to)."

<SARC>Makes a LOT of sense, doesn't it?</SARC>
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As long as they haven't moved out of state, this is ****ing stupid.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
From ABC News

Complaint could make up to 234K Wisconsin voters ineligible
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More than a quarter-million voters in Wisconsin identified as having moved could be made ineligible to vote before next year's presidential primary election if a complaint filed Wednesday by a conservative law firm is successful.

The Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty argues that the state Elections Commission broke the law when it decided to wait up to two years, rather than 30 days, to make ineligible voters who may have moved. The complaint asks for that decision to be immediately revoked, which could lead to as many as 234,000 voters losing their eligibility until they can confirm their addresses or re-register.

The outcome could affect how many voters are able to cast ballots in both the April presidential primary and November 2020 general election in Wisconsin, a key swing state that both sides are targeting. President Donald Trump narrowly won the state by less than 23,000 votes in 2016.

The concern from liberals is that younger and lower income voters who are more likely to vote Democratic are also more likely to be flagged as movers. The result, they fear, is that more Democrats would be made ineligible than Republicans, making it more difficult for them to vote.

COMMENT:-

"Hey Gang! I've got an idea, let's make almost 10% of the voters ineligible to vote because they didn't do something that we didn't tell them they had to do in order to remain eligible to vote (mainly because we sent the notices that they had to update their addresses to the addresses they had moved from rather than to the addresses they had moved to)."

<SARC>Makes a LOT of sense, doesn't it?</SARC>
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RW voter suppression comes in many forms.....
 
As long as they remain residents...does moving make you ineligible to vote?
 
joko104 said:
It matters for local elections.
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Right, but simply moving to another area of the state doesn't make them ineligible to vote in federal elections - this is entirely the wrong approach to the issue.

What they should do is work to update their locations in the voter registration records.
I am assuming that they made the ineligibility time window to avoid having to spend money on tracking down the new addresses or something.

One way that would work is for updating voter registration address to be made available at the polls before voting.
I'm not sure how Wisconsin does it's voter registration, but here in PA you can update your voter registration online, so all you'd need is internet access and a device capable of browsing the internet to update a record.

Personally I'm a fan of same-day voter registration - forgetting to update/register shouldn't be a bar to voting if you want to, IMO.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
From ABC News

Complaint could make up to 234K Wisconsin voters ineligible
​

More than a quarter-million voters in Wisconsin identified as having moved could be made ineligible to vote before next year's presidential primary election if a complaint filed Wednesday by a conservative law firm is successful.

The Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty argues that the state Elections Commission broke the law when it decided to wait up to two years, rather than 30 days, to make ineligible voters who may have moved. The complaint asks for that decision to be immediately revoked, which could lead to as many as 234,000 voters losing their eligibility until they can confirm their addresses or re-register.

The outcome could affect how many voters are able to cast ballots in both the April presidential primary and November 2020 general election in Wisconsin, a key swing state that both sides are targeting. President Donald Trump narrowly won the state by less than 23,000 votes in 2016.

The concern from liberals is that younger and lower income voters who are more likely to vote Democratic are also more likely to be flagged as movers. The result, they fear, is that more Democrats would be made ineligible than Republicans, making it more difficult for them to vote.

COMMENT:-

"Hey Gang! I've got an idea, let's make almost 10% of the voters ineligible to vote because they didn't do something that we didn't tell them they had to do in order to remain eligible to vote (mainly because we sent the notices that they had to update their addresses to the addresses they had moved from rather than to the addresses they had moved to)."

<SARC>Makes a LOT of sense, doesn't it?</SARC>
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I suggest WI voters make sure they're eligible. They have time to do it.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
From ABC News

Complaint could make up to 234K Wisconsin voters ineligible
​

More than a quarter-million voters in Wisconsin identified as having moved could be made ineligible to vote before next year's presidential primary election if a complaint filed Wednesday by a conservative law firm is successful.

The Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty argues that the state Elections Commission broke the law when it decided to wait up to two years, rather than 30 days, to make ineligible voters who may have moved. The complaint asks for that decision to be immediately revoked, which could lead to as many as 234,000 voters losing their eligibility until they can confirm their addresses or re-register.

The outcome could affect how many voters are able to cast ballots in both the April presidential primary and November 2020 general election in Wisconsin, a key swing state that both sides are targeting. President Donald Trump narrowly won the state by less than 23,000 votes in 2016.

The concern from liberals is that younger and lower income voters who are more likely to vote Democratic are also more likely to be flagged as movers. The result, they fear, is that more Democrats would be made ineligible than Republicans, making it more difficult for them to vote.

COMMENT:-

"Hey Gang! I've got an idea, let's make almost 10% of the voters ineligible to vote because they didn't do something that we didn't tell them they had to do in order to remain eligible to vote (mainly because we sent the notices that they had to update their addresses to the addresses they had moved from rather than to the addresses they had moved to)."

<SARC>Makes a LOT of sense, doesn't it?</SARC>
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Why can't they just re-register. Seems like there's plenty of time.
 
The Mark said:
Right, but simply moving to another area of the state doesn't make them ineligible to vote in federal elections - this is entirely the wrong approach to the issue.

What they should do is work to update their locations in the voter registration records.
I am assuming that they made the ineligibility time window to avoid having to spend money on tracking down the new addresses or something.

One way that would work is for updating voter registration address to be made available at the polls before voting.
I'm not sure how Wisconsin does it's voter registration, but here in PA you can update your voter registration online, so all you'd need is internet access and a device capable of browsing the internet to update a record.

Personally I'm a fan of same-day voter registration - forgetting to update/register shouldn't be a bar to voting if you want to, IMO.
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That (bolded above) is simply not true for US House seats - one must reside in that US House district to vote in it. The state does have election day registration at the polling places - see OP link.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
From ABC News

Complaint could make up to 234K Wisconsin voters ineligible
​

More than a quarter-million voters in Wisconsin identified as having moved could be made ineligible to vote before next year's presidential primary election if a complaint filed Wednesday by a conservative law firm is successful.

The Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty argues that the state Elections Commission broke the law when it decided to wait up to two years, rather than 30 days, to make ineligible voters who may have moved. The complaint asks for that decision to be immediately revoked, which could lead to as many as 234,000 voters losing their eligibility until they can confirm their addresses or re-register.

The outcome could affect how many voters are able to cast ballots in both the April presidential primary and November 2020 general election in Wisconsin, a key swing state that both sides are targeting. President Donald Trump narrowly won the state by less than 23,000 votes in 2016.

The concern from liberals is that younger and lower income voters who are more likely to vote Democratic are also more likely to be flagged as movers. The result, they fear, is that more Democrats would be made ineligible than Republicans, making it more difficult for them to vote.

COMMENT:-

"Hey Gang! I've got an idea, let's make almost 10% of the voters ineligible to vote because they didn't do something that we didn't tell them they had to do in order to remain eligible to vote (mainly because we sent the notices that they had to update their addresses to the addresses they had moved from rather than to the addresses they had moved to)."

<SARC>Makes a LOT of sense, doesn't it?</SARC>
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The people don't elect the President, the states do. And It's up to each individual state how they go about it. That's the reason for the Electoral College, to put the power to elect the President in the hands of the states. And that's how crap like this could happen in one state but not in another.
It's a whacky-do system that had some reason to exist back when the USA was trying to recruit big territories with low populations to join the club and to reassure those states with high slave populations but It's just a head-shaker today.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
That (bolded above) is simply not true for US House seats - one must reside in that US House district to vote in it. The state does have election day registration at the polling places - see OP link.
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Fair point on that, I forgot.

I wish PA had same day registration.

I'll be sure to tell Gov. Wolf next time I see him.
 
year2late said:
As long as they remain residents...does moving make you ineligible to vote?
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I think the question is, does this make you ineligible and in need of proving your eligibility? And could you show up to the polls not knowing you were booted and find you are not allowed to vote because this filter negated your eligibility to vote?
 
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I thought Trump liked the uneducated. Are you saying the dummies are the smart ones that can obey voter laws. Interesting.
 
voter suppression might as well be a plank in the Republican platform.
 
Bullseye said:
Why can't they just re-register. Seems like there's plenty of time.
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Tell me... how would you even know you needed to "re-register" yourself bullseye?
 
Helix said:
voter suppression might as well be a plank in the Republican platform.
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It is. They are just barely intelligent enough to not document it.
 
SLC said:
I thought Trump liked the uneducated. Are you saying the dummies are the smart ones that can obey voter laws. Interesting.
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The game works like this. Republican governments are supposed to enforce laws from 2011 to 2019 - as Scott Walker demonstrated. They don't. Then Republican organizations such as these sue the moment a Democrat enters office to weaken chances of those voters having any impact on an election. People see what is happening.


Vote in 2020 guys.

Sent from the Matrioshka in the WH Christmas tree.
 
The Mark said:
As long as they haven't moved out of state, this is ****ing stupid.
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Depending on where they moved some of their down ballot choices could have changed, e.g. representative, local offices, even state legislatures.
 
Bullseye said:
Depending on where they moved some of their down ballot choices could have changed, e.g. representative, local offices, even state legislatures.
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But that doesn't mean they're ineligible to vote, it just means their location needs updated.
 
poweRob said:
Tell me... how would you even know you needed to "re-register" yourself bullseye?
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When you move it should be a given that you need to re-register to vote. Your address is often used to confirm who you are at the voting place. It's also used by the state's election commission to send you election information and your mail in ballot.
 
Bullseye said:
Liberal whining also comes in many forms. This thread, for instances.
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Gee what's worse whining about a wrong or committing one.
 
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