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Pelosi announces House won't vote now on whether to begin impeachment inquiry

iguanaman said:
Yes except that his inquiry will end with a vote on removing Trump from office and it is more likely by the day that the Senate will agree. Either that or Trump will resign from office.
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No...this inquiry may end up with the House voting to impeach and then send it to the Senate, if they decide to, just like any congressional inquiry could do. Then it's on the Senate, where you won't get what you want, no matter how many stars you've wished on or pennies thrown in wells.
 
Fishking said:
It's called congressional oversight, a normal function of Congress that happens all the time. The House actually has no authority regarding the process or litigation of an impeachment. That's the Senate's job. The only thing the House does is vote to have it move forward to the Senate for the trial.
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You're stating absurdities. According to what you are writing, the House just votes to have an impeachment, without calling witnesses to establish that there is cause to have an impeachment. In what world does that make any sense? “The President, Vice President and all Civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.” — U.S. Constitution, Article II, section 4

How can the House decide if the President, Vice President committed Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors, if they don't investigate?
 
Fishking said:
Right...as part of their normal oversight that has nothing to do with impeachment. They only have one authority with regards to impeachment, which is voting on it and sending it to the Senate.
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You can call it fried green tomatoes if you like. The house will conduct an investigation, issue subpoenas and interview witnesses
 
MTAtech said:
You're stating absurdities. According to what you are writing, the House just votes to have an impeachment, without calling witnesses to establish that there is cause to have an impeachment. In what world does that make any sense? “The President, Vice President and all Civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.” — U.S. Constitution, Article II, section 4

How can the House decide if the President, Vice President committed Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors, if they don't investigate?
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No...that's not what I said at all. I've clearly stated that it's the Houses job to conduct oversight and that is what they are doing. It has nothing formally to do with impeachment. The only way it could possibly be thought to do so would be if it was utterly corrupted and they've already decided to go with impeachment, without the facts, and now they are just searching for a reason to do it after the fact.
 
Fishking said:
No...that's not what I said at all. I've clearly stated that it's the Houses job to conduct oversight and that is what they are doing. It has nothing formally to do with impeachment. The only way it could possibly be thought to do so would be if it was utterly corrupted and they've already decided to go with impeachment, without the facts, and now they are just searching for a reason to do it after the fact.
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The term is impeachment inquiry
 
vegas giants said:
You can call it fried green tomatoes if you like. The house will conduct an investigation, issue subpoenas and interview witnesses
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Which means absolutely nothing because they don't have authority to actually do anything beyond investigate and then vote to impeach or not.
 
Fishking said:
Which means absolutely nothing because they don't have authority to actually do anything beyond investigate and then vote to impeach or not.
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Uh.....yeah. They can issue subpoena after subpoena and interview witness after witness.


This is gonna be good
 
Fishking said:
In your imagination, sure. In the real world that's a made up term to fool the naïve.
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Opinion noted

At the federal level, the impeachment process is a three-step procedure.

First, the Congress investigates. This investigation typically begins in the House Judiciary Committee, but may begin elsewhere
 
Mach said:
If this is what you've been reduced to trouble13, I'm sorry.
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Its a legitimate observation.
On one hand Trump is this awful treasonous monster on some kind of crime spree but on the other hand theres no hurry to stop him.

The two positions are contradictory to eachother

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vegas giants said:
Uh.....yeah. They can issue subpoena after subpoena and interview witness after witness.


This is gonna be good
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No **** Sherlock....did you actually read what you quoted? If you did you didn't comprehend.
 
vegas giants said:
Opinion noted

At the federal level, the impeachment process is a three-step procedure.

First, the Congress investigates. This investigation typically begins in the House Judiciary Committee, but may begin elsewhere
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Find me a legal reference to something called an "impeachment inquiry" I'll wait.
 
iguanaman said:
I also hate people that say I just hate Trump. There are a multitude of good reasons to despise him and that is what you are missing. I did not attack you for no reason either. I believe it is up to every American voter to enlighten themselves about a candidate running for President and it appears you missed the boat with Trump. He is a danger to all we hold dear and his Presidency will go down in history as the biggest mistake voters have ever made. Voting 3rd party or staying home because Hillary was not your chosen candidate is what got us Trump. It was just luck that you were not in the 3 Blue States that Trump won by a total of 75,000 votes.
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It is your defining characteristic. Trump is an excellent President, but you will never even look at the evidence.

Fishking said:
No...that's not what I said at all. I've clearly stated that it's the Houses job to conduct oversight and that is what they are doing. It has nothing formally to do with impeachment. The only way it could possibly be thought to do so would be if it was utterly corrupted and they've already decided to go with impeachment, without the facts, and now they are just searching for a reason to do it after the fact.
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The House does not have oversight of the White House. That's political spin.

vegas giants said:
Opinion noted At the federal level, the impeachment process is a three-step procedure. First, the Congress investigates. This investigation typically begins in the House Judiciary Committee, but may begin elsewhere
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Not exactly, but not more wrong than most of the rest of this.
 
trouble13 said:
Its a legitimate observation.
On one hand Trump is this awful treasonous monster on some kind of crime spree but on the other hand theres no hurry to stop him.

The two positions are contradictory to eachother

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Likewise, on one hand Trump is innocent of any crimes, but his name keeps being mentioned in crimes committed by others. You know, individual 1, presidential candidate X, whatever. But on the other hand he is also innocent of crimes where we have his voice in the midst of a crime being committed.

The two positions seem contradictory. It's like a Gotti just having back luck.



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Fishking said:
Find me a legal reference to something called an "impeachment inquiry" I'll wait.
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What? Why cant the investigation concerning a possible impeachment be called a impeachment inquiry?


That is basic English
 
Fishking said:
No **** Sherlock....did you actually read what you quoted? If you did you didn't comprehend.
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They can issue subpoena after subpoena and interview witness after witness.


This is gonna be good
 
Hatuey said:
Likewise, on one hand Trump is innocent of any crimes, but his name keeps being mentioned in crimes committed by others. You know, individual 1, presidential candidate X, whatever. But on the other hand he is also innocent of crimes where we have his voice in the midst of a crime being committed.

The two positions seem contradictory. It's like a Gotti just having back luck.



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Impeach him

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trouble13 said:
Impeach him

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I'll send a letter to my congressman?

You're acting slightly strange.

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Jay59 said:
The House does not have oversight of the White House. That's political spin.
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That's news to the courts, who repeatedly affirmed such powers. The authority to conduct investigations is implied since Congress possesses “all legislative powers."
 
MTAtech said:
That's news to the courts, who repeatedly affirmed such powers. The authority to conduct investigations is implied since Congress possesses “all legislative powers."
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I bet he didn't feel that way when the house impeached Bill Clinton.
 
vegas giants said:
Oh no......we need a year long investigation. This is gonna be good
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Sure string people along for another year, its kept the left preoccupied for the last 3 whats 1 more matter.

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