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Giuliani says he won't comply with subpoenas from Democrats

SLC said:
The Dems need to remember what goes around comes around. One day there will be a Democrat President and a Republican House and payback will be hell.
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So you've resorted to making threats, have you?

The problem is, you didn't take time to think. In order for your lame-ass threat to work, there needs to be a president on the same scale of corruption as Trump. Where are we going to find someone like that? Where are we going to find people ignorant enough to vote for him? You guys got that market cornered.

Not happening, at least not in the near future.

So here is what you should have written:

One day there will be a corrupt, lying, unethical, traitorous Democrat President and a Republican House and payback will be hell.
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What I enjoy reading in this thread is the trumpeters twisting themselves into pretzels arguing why Giuliani can Ignore a subpoena, just like all innocent people do.

They have gone down the hole defending indefensible behavior.
 
HumblePi said:
He said he doesn't need one because he is one, but I think when things heat up, he'll get one fast.
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He who has himself for his attorney is a fool. Fits.
 
Jay Falcon said:
So you've resorted to making threats, have you?

The problem is, you didn't take time to think. In order for your lame-ass threat to work, there needs to be a president on the same scale of corruption as Trump. Where are we going to find someone like that? Where are we going to find people ignorant enough to vote for him? You guys got that market cornered.

Not happening, at least not in the near future.

So here is what you should have written:
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Obama killed two American citizens by droning them without giving them due process.
 
Athanasius68 said:
We keep hearing about that kind of stuff for the past few years....There was a crime at the core of the Johnson, Nixon and Clinton impeachment inquiries.Nothing like that here.
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That too is false.

Attorney-client privilege is not recognized by Congress. It also doesn't appear to apply here anyway.
Executive privlilege doesn't apply if its on matters already made public...the WH already released the transcript and answered many questions on this already, that ship sailed.
Furthermore, Executive Privilege cannot be enforced if there is legitimate reason to suspect something criminal may be hidden.

Trump's Republican pick, John Bolton, was reported by Fiona Hill to have directed her to WH Counsel to tell them there may be criminal activity going on with Soldomon, Mulvaney, Rudys shadow operation.
That's in addition to what we already know in the public, and the House knows, with regards to suspension of wrongdoing here.

None of those defense appear to be useful here.
 
SLC said:
Obama killed two American citizens by droning them without giving them due process.
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It's difficult for you to stay on topic, isn't it?
 
Jay Falcon said:
But not a good one.
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Neither was he a good prosecutor. The Bess Myerson et al case captured the NYC area TV market for months & ended with no convictions. Rudy was zero for three on that one, the apex of his career,
 
Jay Falcon said:
So you've resorted to making threats, have you?

The problem is, you didn't take time to think. In order for your lame-ass threat to work, there needs to be a president on the same scale of corruption as Trump. Where are we going to find someone like that? Where are we going to find people ignorant enough to vote for him? You guys got that market cornered.

Not happening, at least not in the near future.

So here is what you should have written:
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The Black south is a "firewall" for the Dems and they love Biden. They are traditionally under educated.
 
Jay Falcon said:
What are the main criticisms of him as NY mayor in your opinion?
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His outta control police department. My 80+ year old grandmother, mother, aunts, uncles, even a few neighbors were arrested needed 2 vans to do it. At the time you were not allowed to stand in front of your house even if you owned it plus 3 more on the block while having a little melanin in your skin.
It was a celebration of one of my cousins finishing med school. A few uncles were outside smoking cigars all men over 50. Neighbors over, everyone's door open a real community thing.
Almost all of my family left the area between 98-00.
His policies caused a lot of hardworking New Yorkers pain and suffering.
 
Whatever happens to Trump it's hard to see Rudy staying around the WH much longer.
 
SLC said:
The Schiff Show isn't providing due process a fundamental cornerstone of our government. I doubt the SCOTUS will like that. Every other impeachment inquiry has grant due process to the President. The Dems need to remember what goes around comes around. One day there will be a Democrat President and a Republican House and payback will be hell.
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Due process relates to being treated fairly when held for a crime. Rudy isn’t being held for a crime, so due process rights don’t apply. You are throwing around legal terms that you don’t understand.

Rudy’s life, liberty or property aren’t at risk since he’s merely a witness.
 
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Jay Falcon said:
It's difficult for you to stay on topic, isn't it?
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Nope your memory is just bad. You wanted to know "there needs to be a president on the same scale of corruption as Trump." IMHO murdering two Americans without due process is much worse than a fake Quid Pro Quo.
 
MTAtech said:
Due process relates to being treated fairly when held for a crime. Rudy isn’t being held for a crime, so he gets no due process rights.
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Every other impeachment had due process for the President.
 
MrPeanut said:
It's optional as long as it isn't enforced in any way. Congress needs to start using the authority that has been granted to them.
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I think we've been through that before. Unless the democrats engage the courts (DoJ), their subpoenas have no bite.

Pelosi and Schiff don't want to engage the courts because that would give the other side legal rights.
 
MTAtech said:
When was complying with a subpoena optional? The party doesn't get to decline. If they do, it's contempt of Congress. I don't know if one can be disbarred for not complying.
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I have plenty of contempt of Congress myself, but I try to hide it.
 
MTAtech said:
What I enjoy reading in this thread is the trumpeters twisting themselves into pretzels arguing why Giuliani can Ignore a subpoena, just like all innocent people do.

They have gone down the hole defending indefensible behavior.
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Nobody here has said Giuliani can, legally, ignore a subpoena.
Or if he does ignore it, that the House would have to take action to force compliance. People are wondering whether the House would do this.
What people have said is that he can fight a subpoena.
 
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