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    Re: Trump orders withdrawal of U.S. forces from northern Syria, days after Pentagon downplays possib

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    So America's allies (the Kurds) are now joining forces with America's enemy (Mr. al-Assad), good work on the part of someone, eh wot?

    They (the Kurds) never were America's allies ... they fought with the Americans for self-preservation reasons.

    I posted the following in another thread:


    They had to ... they were almost overrun by ISIS. Had it not been for the US operating in the Kurds' vicinity because of ISIS, they would have been long gone ... and not just the fighters and any male civilian, but also the women and children.

    ISIS had moved into the Kurds' territory.

    By 2 October 2014, ISIL succeeded in capturing 350 Kurdish villages and towns within the vicinity of Kobanę,[70] generating a wave of some 300,000 displaced Kurds, who fled across the border into Turkey's Şanlıurfa Province.[71] By January 2015, this had risen to 400,000.[66] The Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG) backed by Euphrates Volcano joint operations room, some Free Syrian Army (FSA) reinforcements, heavily armed Peshmerga of the Kurdistan Regional Government, and American and US-allied Arab militaries' airstrikes began to recapture Kobane.

    ISIS laid siege to Kobani/Kobane. Had it not been for US air strikes, because we operated in that area, that large city too would have fallen under ISIS control.

    In 2015 the US decided to arm and train the Kurdish fighters, who consisted of a gazillion factions, to defeat a common enemy: ISIS.

    That enemy is defeated, the battle has been won; but some of those Kurdish factions are also enemies to a NATO partner ... and we sure as hell don't need a war with a NATO partner.
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    Re: Trump orders withdrawal of U.S. forces from northern Syria, days after Pentagon downplays possib

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    So America's allies (the Kurds) are now joining forces with America's enemy (Mr. al-Assad), good work on the part of someone, eh wot?
    Not the first time. Kurds and Syrian government forces worked together before.

    After all America and its allies support the Rebels, who comprise of 3 main factions. Kurds, non Jihadists and Al Q/ISIS Jihadists. Kurds control the largest part of rebel held areas and the Jihadists control most of the rest. The moderate "good" Rebels control almost nothing. People blame Assad for a lot of ****, but ignore the control of the Rebel areas by "ISIS light" and frankly I would rather have Assad than another religious wack job government. No way in hell a free and democratic Syria would ever happen with the fall of Assad.


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    Re: Trump orders withdrawal of U.S. forces from northern Syria, days after Pentagon downplays possib

    We are literally evacuating US troops. Let that sink in MAGA'ts.

    Endangered By Turkish Offensive, U.S. Troops Prepare To Evacuate
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    Re: Trump orders withdrawal of U.S. forces from northern Syria, days after Pentagon downplays possib

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    We are literally evacuating US troops. Let that sink in MAGA'ts.

    Endangered By Turkish Offensive, U.S. Troops Prepare To Evacuate

    We are literally saving American lives. Let that sink in, liberal warmongers.
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    Re: Trump orders withdrawal of U.S. forces from northern Syria, days after Pentagon downplays possib

    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    Try reading Metternich. He had Europe by the balls, one day playing enemies to the brink of war, by allying with one or the other, then changing allies for the next peace, then repeat and rinse, always keeping tiny Austria out of the fray. Metternich, hero of Europe, father of modern diplomacy.
    Yeah, I don;t think that the Kurds are playing both ends against the middle. I think that they are calling in favors perhaps and trying to save themselves through whomever will protect them.

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    Re: Trump orders withdrawal of U.S. forces from northern Syria, days after Pentagon downplays possib

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Not the first time. Kurds and Syrian government forces worked together before.

    After all America and its allies support the Rebels, who comprise of 3 main factions. Kurds, non Jihadists and Al Q/ISIS Jihadists. Kurds control the largest part of rebel held areas and the Jihadists control most of the rest. The moderate "good" Rebels control almost nothing. People blame Assad for a lot of ****, but ignore the control of the Rebel areas by "ISIS light" and frankly I would rather have Assad than another religious wack job government. No way in hell a free and democratic Syria would ever happen with the fall of Assad.
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    Most people here don't seem to realize that the northern Syrian Kurds existed long before we armed them in 2015. /s
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    Re: Trump orders withdrawal of U.S. forces from northern Syria, days after Pentagon downplays possib

    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic Kid View Post
    Terrorist threats would be least of your problems if the Soviet- Russian bloc had decided to go to war. Right? The Middle East is a virtual tinderbox now rife with the possibility of a miscalculation resulting in a clash between superpowers.
    And God help us if the impulsive incompetent orange sphincter is still in charge.
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    Re: Trump orders withdrawal of U.S. forces from northern Syria, days after Pentagon downplays possib

    Quote Originally Posted by Barnacle View Post
    We are literally saving American lives. Let that sink in, liberal warmongers.
    Is that so? You don't think Trump giving Turkey the green light to invade, endangered our troops there that are not allowed to fire a shot?

    Are you really this dumb?
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    Re: Trump orders withdrawal of U.S. forces from northern Syria, days after Pentagon downplays possib

    Quote Originally Posted by Barnacle View Post
    We are literally saving American lives. Let that sink in, liberal warmongers.
    How, we still have troops there.

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    Re: Trump orders withdrawal of U.S. forces from northern Syria, days after Pentagon downplays possib

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Is that so? You don't think Trump giving Turkey the green light to invade, endangered our troops there that are not allowed to fire a shot?
    Are you really this dumb?

    Trump didn't give Turkey the green light to invade ... and watch out who you're calling dumb.
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