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    Re: Trump’s envoy to testify that ‘no quid pro quo’ came from Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    The evidence is already clear; and the situation is obvious. Since there was no good reason offered for her being fired, one must look at the other reasons why a career diplomat would be fired. Of all the ambassadors in the world, the one dealing with Ukraine was fired right before Trump pulled his stunt with Ukraine. Wow...what a cowinkidink!

    You think continuing to be obtuse for Trump is the way to go? The man consistently insults your intelligence because you encourage him to.

    - There was no collusion, yet he struggled to kill the investigation anyway? He clearly got lucky about something.

    - There was no quid pro quo, yet he issued spin instructions anyway? He knows he got caught.

    When one must reduce his intelligence, stow his common sense, and seek loop holes/technicalities to prove loyalty, one may want to consider why such a man deserves that blind loyalty and devotion. You shouldn't have to work this hard if the man actually deserves it. It's amazing to me how you people think that if you appropriately criticize Trump, a Conservative anti-thesis, that you are betraying your Conservative roots. Do you even know what a Conservative is supposed to be? When you defend a man like Donald trump, you are defending Trump, not Conservatism. Again, common sense matters.
    I just saw a poll that 60% of declared Republicans are more loyal to trump than the Republican party...

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    Re: Trump’s envoy to testify that ‘no quid pro quo’ came from Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by ClaraD View Post
    Trumpers have no clue what being Conservative is. If they did, he'd have been impeached yesterday.
    They have certainly lost the plot along the way.

    When one considers that, for years, they witnessed one ideology after another get exposed for the con-games and expired messes they were, on top of a black man going to the White House, they swim in bitterness and hatred. Along the way, the GOP and FOX News used extremist rhetoric and nasty politics to lead them away from science and reason, thereby moving Liberals closer to being correct every time. Of course, this only further enraged the already irrationally enraged. It's only fitting that it was the GOP that begged its Conservative base not to vote for Trump, a man who merely captured all of that seething hatred and irrationality in mindless slogans like "lock her up" or "build a wall." By the way, have you read that the Border Patrol has already apprehended the largest number of migrants crossing the southwest border since 2007? And all without an expensive, obnoxious, and unnecessary wall. Amazing what happens when people actually do their jobs. Anyway, the GOP had lost control of the mob in 2016 that they created; and now they mostly run scared of offending that base if they dare criticize Trump. Notice that most GOP Republicans don't actually publicly support him. They remain silent. Trump merely represents the Conservative middle finger to the world, after years of busted ideologies, and they simply do not care to think beyond their illusions.

    "America First" is what gets me. Here is a man who has reduced American influence in virtually every region on the planet, has boldly and childishly insulted allies, has been caught using the military and foreign governments to salvage failing businesses, has given his own elitist kind permanent tax-cuts, has moved America further away from global leadership than Obama did, has injured true professionals who placed the country above his personal needs to sooth ego, has embraced dictators as friends with special bonds even as they make a fool of him, and has tried to use foreign governments to do harm upon American citizens to salvage his personal political career and White House residency....yet the faithful can't see that they are actually worshiping "Trump first."

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    Re: Trump’s envoy to testify that ‘no quid pro quo’ came from Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    exactly

    GOP lawmaker: Democrats cherry-picking what to leak in impeachment inquiry | TheHill

    Rep. Lee Zeldin (R-N.Y.) slammed Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) for his handling of the impeachment inquiry, saying the process is filled with "cherry-picked leaks, withholding of key facts and ... lying."

    "Something that I find outrageous is the cherry-picked leaks, the withholding of key facts and the lying about other claims that's misleading the American public," Zeldin said.

    as said the whole thing is a bust and a farce and nothing more than a witch trial.
    It’s true.

    They keep cherry picking the criminal stuff to look at.

    Why don’t they investigate the great stuff, like Trumps infrastructure plan?

    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

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    Re: Trump’s envoy to testify that ‘no quid pro quo’ came from Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by GDViking View Post
    I just saw a poll that 60% of declared Republicans are more loyal to trump than the Republican party...
    I'm sure this is accurate enough, though I would place money on that number being higher. The GOP has proven to be scared. Those who publicly support Trump are obnoxious in their zeal to celebrate lower standards, thereby showing an act. We know it is an act because when Trump demands that they lower standards even more from one issue to the next, they get quieter until they can emerge again over something that is less decrepit. Those who always remain silent do not want to risk their political careers and are quietly hoping to see an end to Trump, one way or another.

    Our government leadership consists of an Executive and his FOX News engineered ignorant base. All those elected in between are just in the way. This is actually dangerously funny, considering that Trump has become fond of denigrating FOX News now too. The fans are really at a loss as they head further right, away from the GOP center, for their propaganda. I tell people all the time, the comparison between Adolph Hitler and Donald Trump is not proper at all. But the comparison between Germany's 1930s Conservatives and today's America Conservatives is. It's uncanny.

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    Re: Trump’s envoy to testify that ‘no quid pro quo’ came from Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    It’s true.

    They keep cherry picking the criminal stuff to look at.

    Why don’t they investigate the great stuff, like Trumps infrastructure plan?

    Um...because avoiding 97% so that you can focus on 3% is foolish? See that serial killer over there? He has real pretty hair, huh? Don't worry about the criminal stuff.

    Besides, his infrastructure plan is all rhetoric. He announced it within hours of winning the election in 2016, and then immediately went to work undoing Obama-era protections and giving permanent tax-cuts to the wealthy. And after the Democrats won back the House he went into raging about border walls. And with an estimated $1.5 trillion or $2 trillion price tag, as reported months ago, he probably shouldn't have significantly reduced government revenue like that (then significantly increased government spending months later) . He's a populist and an endeavor like an infrastructure plan got in the way of reminding people that they need to love him at every turn.

    In the meantime, Trump's "infrastructure plan" is merely the distraction that Republicans are pushing right now and what FOX News wants its viewers to focus on. Considering that you want people not to focus on the "criminal stuff," it seems to be working on some of you. The widely debunked Biden thing didn't work, so now they are pushing the illusive "infrastructure plan." After two+ years, it's a bit late to pretend that something good from Trump might happen with the little bit of time he has allowed himself to have left.

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    Re: Trump’s envoy to testify that ‘no quid pro quo’ came from Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    You post a link where anonymous sources tell us what the guy is going to say before he says it. We wont get to hear what he says because the interview will be held in secret. And what is claimed to be his testimony is meaningless. What would you like to discuss here?
    You would not have the slightest clue if the answer were supplied to you in the simplest terms possible.

    Sit down and listen to the discussion. You might actually learn something for a change.
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    Re: Trump’s envoy to testify that ‘no quid pro quo’ came from Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Integrityrespec View Post
    Schiff said he had proof that was beyond circumstantial of collusion. Yeah, you guys are believable.
    The Mueller Report established and demonstrated a lot of collusion.

    You haven't read it. You wouldn't know.
    Well, he see this one particularly hot chick and not does she bag he slackjawed, but he lets a "Whoa" slip out

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    Re: Trump’s envoy to testify that ‘no quid pro quo’ came from Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    A non sequitur is a logical fallacy. If you want the logic to be followed, you will have to use it.
    Well it wasn't a non-sequitor, troll.

    Got any opinion on the issue at hand, or you gonna just keep trolling?

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    Re: Trump’s envoy to testify that ‘no quid pro quo’ came from Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Um...because avoiding 97% so that you can focus on 3% is foolish? See that serial killer over there? He has real pretty hair, huh? Don't worry about the criminal stuff.

    Besides, his infrastructure plan is all rhetoric. He announced it within hours of winning the election in 2016, and then immediately went to work undoing Obama-era protections and giving permanent tax-cuts to the wealthy. And after the Democrats won back the House he went into raging about border walls. And with an estimated $1.5 trillion or $2 trillion price tag, as reported months ago, he probably shouldn't have significantly reduced government revenue like that (then significantly increased government spending months later) . He's a populist and an endeavor like an infrastructure plan got in the way of reminding people that they need to love him at every turn.

    In the meantime, Trump's "infrastructure plan" is merely the distraction that Republicans are pushing right now and what FOX News wants its viewers to focus on. Considering that you want people not to focus on the "criminal stuff," it seems to be working on some of you. The widely debunked Biden thing didn't work, so now they are pushing the illusive "infrastructure plan." After two+ years, it's a bit late to pretend that something good from Trump might happen with the little bit of time he has allowed himself to have left.
    I have it on good authority that Infrastructure Week is going to happen again soon.
    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

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    Re: Trump’s envoy to testify that ‘no quid pro quo’ came from Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    It’s true.

    They keep cherry picking the criminal stuff to look at.

    Why don’t they investigate the great stuff, like Trumps infrastructure plan?

    He plans on hiring the same contractors that worked on the the hard Rock hotel to rebuild our Infrastructure, a d then true to form, not pay them...

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