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Two Foreign-Born Men Who Helped Giuliani on Ukraine Arrested on Campaign-Finance Charges

Chomsky said:
Which is why there's silence in this thread from Trump supporters, as well as avoidance of the breaking news on Trump's media sources.

I'm pretty surprised at how quickly and strongly the public tide is turning against Trump. 51% for impeachment? I'm blown away, but it is giving me hope for the matter. When Nixon's negatives hit 60%, the floodgates opened and he was gone in a heartbeat. If Trump hits 60% for impeachment, it's going to put the GOP Senate in an unbelievable difficult position. They will be toast in any contested or swing districts, if they don't act. And similarly, they will be toast even if they do act! They got killed, after Nixon left office.

And while I thought it was crazy before, after recently noting Trump's impeachment inquiry get a several points rise among Republican voters themselves, and now seeing today's huge swing to the majority of the country supporting impeachment, it now seems possible we could get to removal - though I have no idea how likely it may be.

Regardless of the prospects of removal though, it is clear to me that impeachment is a done deal. What remains to be seen, is how much more damaging events & facts come out, and how long the process will last. It's possible, given Trump's reticence to co-operate, and with these new events and investigations occurring, that this might extend well into the election year dominating the conversation.
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What gets me is how so many on the right are turning against him because of him letting the kurds out to dry.
 
MrWonka said:
This really does hit the nail on the head. This is precisely how they convince themselves its okay for them to stoop to these levels because they just assume liberals are doing it to just not getting caught. Nope, Sorry! Liberals aren't getting caught because they're not doing these things.
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Criminals and grifters always assume everyone else is doing the same.
 
Jay Falcon said:
That's what worries you, huh? I swear, you Trump cultists are a piece of work.
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We cant hold a candle to the rabid anti trump crowd

Since becoming president trump has spent most of his time fightimg off leftwing soft coup attempts
 
"BREAKING: A judge has approved a bail package for Parnas and Fruman, they'll be released once conditions are met:
- $1M bond each
- Home detention + GPS/location monitoring
- 3rd party custodian responsible
- Can only travel to SDNY and SDFL, and must get approval first

SDNY prosecutor Nicholas Roos said the govt was satisfied these conditions would address the flight risk. Defense lawyer Kevin Downing said their passports were already seized by the feds and they have no other passports/travel docs."

Zoe Tillman on Twitter: "SDNY prosecutor Nicholas Roos said the govt was satisfied these conditions would address the flight risk. Defense lawyer Kevin Downing said their passports were already seized by the feds and they have no other passports/travel docs."
 
Chomsky said:
Bye, Bye, Rudy. Unless he gets a pardon ...
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"At this point I'd be telling Rudy, 'Look, the good news is that when they show up with search and arrest warrants, the feds rarely shoot your dog. Not like Sheriff deputies! Ha ha! Anyway I'm going to need you to quadruple your fee deposit.'" -Popehat

I like Ken White and Renato Mariotti because they enjoy splashing cold water on people who may be thinking that a story is more significant than it really is.
 
HAL9000 said:
Well lets see:

They went to Ukraine, trying to dig up dirt on Biden, like Trump wanted.
They tried to get the ambassador, that Trump described as "bad news" removed.
They met with Donald Jr on the same day that Rick Perry, who is also entangled in this, met with Zelensky.
They improperly donated hundred of thousands of dollars to a Trump super-pac.
They are friends of Trump and are regulars at Mar A Lago.
They relied on insider government information to attempt to replace executives at Naftogaz.
They were, until their crimes started gaining attention, represented by Rudy Giuliani, Trump's current lawyer.
They are now being represented by John Dowd, the previous man to have Guiliani's Job.

What does the word evidence mean to you?
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That sounds bad

Almost as bad as the phony russia collusion narrative 3 years ago that went bust

But liberal witch hunts have a way of fizzling out as the truth becomes known
 
RAMOSS said:
What gets me is how so many on the right are turning against him because of him letting the kurds out to dry.
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Sadly - I could add to this list endlessly, Ramoss.
 
Allan said:
Not sure. No doubt Rudy is in pretty deep here which is why he's uncharacteristically quiet today.

Quite a swamp they're building there.
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Yeah, I have a feeling his normally colorful commentary will be limited to a recitation of the 5th Amendment soon.
 
Chomsky said:
Bye, Bye, Rudy. Unless he gets a pardon ...
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Or unless hes been "cooperating" all this time as an insider. Which would be so funny. Rudy... Mr deep state turning states evidence witness and wearing wires.
 
Mac7 said:
We cant hold a candle to the rabid anti trump crowd

Since becoming president trump has spent most of his time fightimg off leftwing soft coup attempts
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"Soft coup". For those with sensitive hineys. Now making up phrases to preach yours and trumps victim status to the world.

:lol:
 
Cardinal said:
"BREAKING: A judge has approved a bail package for Parnas and Fruman, they'll be released once conditions are met:
- $1M bond each
- Home detention + GPS/location monitoring
- 3rd party custodian responsible
- Can only travel to SDNY and SDFL, and must get approval first

SDNY prosecutor Nicholas Roos said the govt was satisfied these conditions would address the flight risk. Defense lawyer Kevin Downing said their passports were already seized by the feds and they have no other passports/travel docs."

Zoe Tillman on Twitter: "SDNY prosecutor Nicholas Roos said the govt was satisfied these conditions would address the flight risk. Defense lawyer Kevin Downing said their passports were already seized by the feds and they have no other passports/travel docs."
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Wanna' bet they'll be heavily tailed & surveyed? Well, unless Barr gets involved. Then we have another possible Epstein-type situation on our hands.
 
Chomsky said:
Yep. And it in this case it would be in Trump's best interests to get rid of them. Today's guys are American citizens now, though. So it would be interesting to see if they'd take the deal.
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I have to wonder how far all of this will go until people start getting Epsteined.
 
Cardinal said:
"At this point I'd be telling Rudy, 'Look, the good news is that when they show up with search and arrest warrants, the feds rarely shoot your dog. Not like Sheriff deputies! Ha ha! Anyway I'm going to need you to quadruple your fee deposit.'" -Popehat

I like Ken White and Renato Mariotti because they enjoy splashing cold water on people who may be thinking that a story is more significant than it really is.
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Renato's great. I'd like to see him in office. Local or national would be fine. He didn't do to well locally, though.
 
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