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    Re: California utility will shut off power to 800,000 people to prevent wildfires

    Quote Originally Posted by weaver2 View Post
    California does't have cheap rates and PG&E was given funding to clear vegetation under lines and around poles. They haven't. The fires two years ago were the result of masses of vegetation under the lines in violation of state laws. They are not liable for fires starting from lightening or other acts of nature. They are liable for fires caused by sparking lines igniting the uncut vegetation. They were called twice by the homeowner on whose property the lines were sparking. They ignored the calls until the Camp fire was beyond control. On at least two occasions they were granted millions of dollars to start putting lines underground. Both times they transferred the money to bonuses for executives.
    No utility company denudes all vegetation under or around powerlines. That is what they would have to do to reduce the risk any fire from spreading from the right of way to the surrounding area.

    (spent 30 years in wildland fire. CA got hit by perfect conditions for a potential fire. Maybe CA should look at zoning laws. Why allow high density housing in fire prone areas? Why let homeowners off the hook for not maintain their property to firewise standards?
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    Re: California utility will shut off power to 800,000 people to prevent wildfires

    Trim trees regularly
    Get rid of dead trees/brush every once in a while

    2 ideas that will prevent wildfires and it won't inconvenience millions of people who will see their power turned off because some asswipe thinks it's a great idea.

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    Re: California utility will shut off power to 800,000 people to prevent wildfires

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    Congratulations!
    You win the booby prize for being the first to make the thread about Trump.
    I know this wasn't directed at me, but come on, the world laughed at the orange clown over this same thing last year. Remember when the moron said they should rake the forests? You know, like Finland.

    Haha, what a moron. Or idiot. Depending on which top aide is describing him.


    People in Finland Mock Trump With Leaf-Raking Photos After He Said the Country 'Rakes the Forest'

    Biggest laughing stock in the world.
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    Re: California utility will shut off power to 800,000 people to prevent wildfires

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    Trim trees regularly
    Get rid of dead trees/brush every once in a while

    2 ideas that will prevent wildfires and it won't inconvenience millions of people who will see their power turned off because some asswipe thinks it's a great idea.
    With what? You blew all your disposable income giving Trump and his buddies tax breaks.

    Trump’s tax cuts helped billionaires pay less than the working class for first time | Business | The Guardian

    Trump will personally save up to $15m under tax bill, analysis finds | US news | The Guardian
    Jared Kushner will save up to $12m, while five other members of Trump’s inner circle will also see benefits worth millions of dollars



    Haha, Trump is proving it with his base, you can fool some of the people all of the time.
    Keep the world laughing! Four more seasons of the Twumpy The Clown Show!!!

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    Re: California utility will shut off power to 800,000 people to prevent wildfires

    Quote Originally Posted by weaver2 View Post
    California does't have cheap rates and PG&E was given funding to clear vegetation under lines and around poles. They haven't. The fires two years ago were the result of masses of vegetation under the lines in violation of state laws. They are not liable for fires starting from lightening or other acts of nature. They are liable for fires caused by sparking lines igniting the uncut vegetation. They were called twice by the homeowner on whose property the lines were sparking. They ignored the calls until the Camp fire was beyond control. On at least two occasions they were granted millions of dollars to start putting lines underground. Both times they transferred the money to bonuses for executives.
    Perhaps you are right. I have not read the reports. If negligence caused it and following the procedure would have prevented it, then there is a case. However, I live in California and have been through many fires. I also see the power lines. Is PGE supposed to trim every line, weed whack thousands of miles of underbrush and give residents who live in fire areas a failsafe guarantee in return for their electricity payment? It costs money to clear that line, complying with your claim will raise rates. Or they can cut power. Which one hurts you the most?
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    Re: California utility will shut off power to 800,000 people to prevent wildfires

    Quote Originally Posted by JustHanging View Post
    With what? You blew all your disposable income giving Trump and his buddies tax breaks.

    Trump’s tax cuts helped billionaires pay less than the working class for first time | Business | The Guardian

    Trump will personally save up to $15m under tax bill, analysis finds | US news | The Guardian
    Jared Kushner will save up to $12m, while five other members of Trump’s inner circle will also see benefits worth millions of dollars



    Haha, Trump is proving it with his base, you can fool some of the people all of the time.
    BS. Tax revenues have increased significantly. Trump didn't "give anything away"/
    Envy is a mortal sin!

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    Re: California utility will shut off power to 800,000 people to prevent wildfires

    Quote Originally Posted by JustHanging View Post
    I know this wasn't directed at me, but come on, the world laughed at the orange clown over this same thing last year. Remember when the moron said they should rake the forests? You know, like Finland.

    Haha, what a moron. Or idiot. Depending on which top aide is describing him.


    People in Finland Mock Trump With Leaf-Raking Photos After He Said the Country 'Rakes the Forest'

    Biggest laughing stock in the world.
    Google "forest raking machine" then go to "images".

    Trump knew what he was talking about when he said "rake". Apparently his mockers didn't, which makes THEM stupid.

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    Re: California utility will shut off power to 800,000 people to prevent wildfires

    Quote Originally Posted by JustHanging View Post
    With what? You blew all your disposable income giving Trump and his buddies tax breaks.

    Trump’s tax cuts helped billionaires pay less than the working class for first time | Business | The Guardian

    Trump will personally save up to $15m under tax bill, analysis finds | US news | The Guardian
    Jared Kushner will save up to $12m, while five other members of Trump’s inner circle will also see benefits worth millions of dollars



    Haha, Trump is proving it with his base, you can fool some of the people all of the time.
    What are you going on about? Did something inside your head explode?

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    Re: California utility will shut off power to 800,000 people to prevent wildfires

    Quote Originally Posted by Vadinho View Post
    Perhaps you are right. I have not read the reports. If negligence caused it and following the procedure would have prevented it, then there is a case. However, I live in California and have been through many fires. I also see the power lines. Is PGE supposed to trim every line, weed whack thousands of miles of underbrush and give residents who live in fire areas a failsafe guarantee in return for their electricity payment? It costs money to clear that line, complying with your claim will raise rates. Or they can cut power. Which one hurts you the most?
    With all the money PG&E gouges from their customers, they would have plenty of money to do the job. And they could send in dozens of goats to "trim" the underbrush.

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    Re: California utility will shut off power to 800,000 people to prevent wildfires

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    With all the money PG&E gouges from their customers, they would have plenty of money to do the job. And they could send in dozens of goats to "trim" the underbrush.
    They'd also have to have local, state, or federal permission to do the work.
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