Ex-Dallas police officer Amber Guyger convicted in wrong-apartment slaying

Ex-Dallas police officer Amber Guyger convicted in wrong-apartment slaying - Reuters

DALLAS (Reuters) - A Dallas jury found former police officer Amber Guyger guilty on Tuesday of murder when she accidentally walked into a neighbor’s apartment thinking it was her own and shot him dead as he ate ice cream.

The Sept. 6, 2018, killing of Botham Jean, a 26-year-old black PwC accountant, by a white officer sparked street protests, particularly when prosecutors initially opted to bring the lesser charge of manslaughter against Guyger, 31.
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And TX is a death penalty state. And ex-cops who have killed innocent black people don't make out too well in the slammer there, especially if they are relatively attractive females.

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JacksinPA said:

Ex-Dallas police officer Amber Guyger convicted in wrong-apartment slaying - Reuters

DALLAS (Reuters) - A Dallas jury found former police officer Amber Guyger guilty on Tuesday of murder when she accidentally walked into a neighbor’s apartment thinking it was her own and shot him dead as he ate ice cream.

The Sept. 6, 2018, killing of Botham Jean, a 26-year-old black PwC accountant, by a white officer sparked street protests, particularly when prosecutors initially opted to bring the lesser charge of manslaughter against Guyger, 31.
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And TX is a death penalty state. And ex-cops who have killed innocent black people don't make out too well in the slammer there.

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She was not convicted of capital murder. Her sentence for her murder conviction will be between 5 (min) and 99 (max) years, most likely 20 years with parole possible after 8 years. She deserves whatever prison time she gets for her blame the victim nonsense by trying to get off by making a ridiculous self-defense claim.

Good. However, the article wrongly makes a parallel between Michael Brown and Botham Jean. There is none. Michael Brown was fighting the officer, trying to grab the officer's gun and rushing at him. Botham Jean was eating ice cream.

ttwtt78640 said:

She was not convicted of capital murder. Her sentence for her murder conviction will be between 5 (min) and 99 (max) years, most likely 20 years with parole possible after 8 years. She deserves whatever prison time she gets for her blame the victim nonsense by trying to get off by making a ridiculous self-defense claim.

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That's what I see, 15 to 20 yr sentence. If 8 yrs under the jurisdictional guidelines is the soonest for parole for 20, then so be it.

Otherwise, I still predict she'll be out in 7.

Lursa said:

That's what I see, 15 to 20 yr sentence. If 8 yrs under the jurisdictional guidelines is the soonest for parole for 20, then so be it.

Otherwise, I still predict she'll be out in 7.

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Not a pretty picture. Due to the fact that the majority of inmates are black, this ex-cop will spend her time in isolation. IOW, solitary confinement. Beats getting shanked in the showers, though.

I watched her babble some words while crying her heart out. Yet, I couldn't help thinking that the whole apartment should have looked different than hers. It should have taken a second for her to say "whoops, sorry" and back out the door. Unless she was drunk.

Lursa said:

That's what I see, 15 to 20 yr sentence. If 8 yrs under the jurisdictional guidelines is the soonest for parole for 20, then so be it.

Otherwise, I still predict she'll be out in 7.

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If I was on that jury I would be pushing for a longer sentence based on the fact that she killed someone simply because she was very inattentive and emotionally unstable and should have known, as a trained police officer, to call for back-up when a she suspected that a home break-in was in progress. She was far too emotionally (mentally?) unstable to make sound life and death decisions.

A few large and obvious clues were missed that she was not at home. Her normal parking place is on the top level (forth floor) of the parking structure (i.e. there is no roof/ceiling on that level as there is on her level). She also does not have a red door mat (did the door mat fairy pay her a surprise visit?) and the address number (which includes the floor level) is on each apartment's entry door.

She claimed to have heard someone walking inside before she attempted entry which is why she decided on the need to have her gun drawn and at the ready. That alone should have been the super clue that calling for back-up was essential - no way to know if multiple burglars were inside or if any (or all) of them were armed.

Had she called for back-up (and waited for them) she would have been informed that she was nowhere to be seen near her stated response address.

JacksinPA said:

Not a pretty picture. Due to the fact that the majority of inmates are black, this ex-cop will spend her time in isolation. IOW, solitary confinement. Beats getting shanked in the showers, though.

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It will be a woman's prison not a men's max security prison

ttwtt78640 said:

If I was on that jury I would be pushing for a longer sentence based on the fact that she killed someone simply because she was very inattentive and emotionally unstable and should have known, as a trained police officer, to call for back-up when a she suspected that a home break-in was in progress. She was far too emotionally (mentally?) unstable to make sound life and death decisions.

A few large and obvious clues were missed that she was not at home. Her normal parking place is on the top level (forth floor) of the parking structure (i.e. there is no roof/ceiling on that level as there is on her level). She also does not have a red door mat (did the door mat fairy pay her a surprise visit?) and the address number (which includes the floor level) is on each apartment's entry door.

She claimed to have heard someone walking inside before she attempted entry which is why she decided on the need to have her gun drawn and at the ready. That alone should have been the super clue that calling for back-up was essential - no way to know if multiple burglars were inside or if any (or all) of them were armed.

Had she called for back-up (and waited for them) she would have been informed that she was nowhere to be seen near her stated response address.

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She actually had her gun drawn before entering the apartment? I did not know that before, something is wrong with her in the head


She went in with the intent to kill, no doubt about it in my mind

Lord Tammerlain said:

She actually had her gun drawn before entering the apartment? I did not know that before, something is wrong with her in the head

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Very much so, IMHO, that is why the poor slob sitting on his couch was killed.

d0gbreath said:

I watched her babble some words while crying her heart out. Yet, I couldn't help thinking that the whole apartment should have looked different than hers. It should have taken a second for her to say "whoops, sorry" and back out the door. Unless she was drunk.

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She was ensuring that for the big, bad, black man who had broken into her apartment this was going to be his last crime. That all fell apart, seconds later, when she realized that she was in his apartment - then it was time to invent the violent attack story which forced her to shoot in self-defense.

Lord Tammerlain said:

It will be a woman's prison not a men's max security prison

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Hmm... convicted felons can't be violent if they are women.

ttwtt78640 said:

She was ensuring that for the big, bad, black man who had broken into her apartment this was going to be his last crime. That all fell apart, seconds later, when she realized that she was in his apartment - then it was time to invent the violent attack story which forced her to shoot in self-defense.

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Talk about tunnel vision. I'll bet that she didn't even have ice cream at home.

ttwtt78640 said:

Hmm... convicted felons can't be violent if they are women.

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Well they can, but I don't believe they tend to be as violent as the men's prisons. Now if the video's I have seen of woman's prisons are correct, the prisoners are all young hot and lesbians

d0gbreath said:

Talk about tunnel vision. I'll bet that she didn't even have ice cream at home.

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I'm a bit surprised that she did not create (stage?) a "fight scene", but apparently her head has too scrambled to manage that (or expected "fellow officers" to handle that).

Lord Tammerlain said:

Well they can, but I don't believe they tend to be as violent as the men's prisons. Now if the video's I have seen of woman's prisons are correct, the prisoners are all young hot and lesbians

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She will likely be placed in protective custody - some crimes (like child rape or canabalism) and/or criminals (like police officers) are not "respected" by their fellow inmates and must be kept separated from the general inmate population. IIRC, Jeffery Dalmer lasted only days (3 weeks?) after he was placed in general population.

Lord Tammerlain said:

It will be a woman's prison not a men's max security prison

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She will still be held is isolation because the bulk of the convicts in TX are black & they don't like ex-cops who killed innocent black men.

Lord Tammerlain said:

Well they can, but I don't believe they tend to be as violent as the men's prisons. Now if the video's I have seen of woman's prisons are correct, the prisoners are all young hot and lesbians

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Into f/f porn? Do you collect such media?

JacksinPA said:

Into f/f porn? Do you collect such media?

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Just meant as a joke of course

Lord Tammerlain said:

It will be a woman's prison not a men's max security prison

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Have you seen Orange is the New Black?