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    Re: Trump: Why aren't we entitled to 'learn everything about' the whistleblower?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypothetical View Post
    BS says the data on how an impeachment proceeding works FROM THE HOUSE.GOV website.
    The Republicans didn't vote on impeaching Clinton until Starr's investigation was over and published.

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    Re: Trump: Why aren't we entitled to 'learn everything about' the whistleblower?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypothetical View Post
    BS says the data on how an impeachment proceeding works FROM THE HOUSE.GOV website.
    Let's look at what you referenced:

    "Individual Members of the House can introduce impeachment resolutions like ordinary bills, or the House could initiate proceedings by passing a resolution authorizing an inquiry."

    Let's examine a recently introduced impeachment resolution.

    H.Res.498 Introduced July 17, 2019 by Rep. Al Green (D-TX-9) is interesting:

    In this resolution, Green skipped the whole inquiry step and asked for his fellow House members to vote for impeachment:

    H.Res.498 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Impeaching Donald John Trump, President of the United States, of high misdemeanors.

    H.Res.498 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Impeaching Donald John Trump, President of the United States, of high misdemeanors. | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

    So, how is it that Green can ask his fellow House members to skip, entirely, the inquiry aspect of the impeachment, and vote on articles of impeachment so as to impeach the President?
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    Re: Trump: Why aren't we entitled to 'learn everything about' the whistleblower?

    Quote Originally Posted by j brown's body View Post
    The Republicans didn't vote on impeaching Clinton until Starr's investigation was over and published.
    the IMPEACHMENT vote comes later, but to Begin the investigation you VOTE to proceed with an impeachment INQUIRY.

    please read the link from house.gov I provided.

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    Re: Trump: Why aren't we entitled to 'learn everything about' the whistleblower?

    Quote Originally Posted by W_Heisenberg View Post
    So, how is it that Green can ask his fellow House members to skip, entirely, the inquiry aspect of the impeachment, and vote on articles of impeachment so as to impeach the President?
    Impatience and a general disdain for his office and the American people in general.
    Thank you

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    Re: Trump: Why aren't we entitled to 'learn everything about' the whistleblower?

    Quote Originally Posted by W_Heisenberg View Post
    Let's look at what you referenced:

    "Individual Members of the House can introduce impeachment resolutions like ordinary bills, or the House could initiate proceedings by passing a resolution authorizing an inquiry."

    Let's examine a recently introduced impeachment resolution.

    H.Res.498 Introduced July 17, 2019 by Rep. Al Green (D-TX-9) is interesting:

    In this resolution, Green skipped the whole inquiry step and asked for his fellow House members to vote for impeachment:

    H.Res.498 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Impeaching Donald John Trump, President of the United States, of high misdemeanors.

    H.Res.498 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Impeaching Donald John Trump, President of the United States, of high misdemeanors. | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

    So, how is it that Green can ask his fellow House members to skip, entirely, the inquiry aspect of the impeachment, and vote on articles of impeachment so as to impeach the President?
    because sure they can do that... they can ASK anything.... but obviously the votes weren't there. at least it WAS A REQUEST for an actual VOTE of the full house per protocol.


    oh wait:
    House - 07/17/2019 On motion to table the measure Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: 332 - 95, 1 Present (Roll no. 483). (All Actions)
    Roll Call Votes: There has been 1 roll call vote

    it DID pass.. it was a measure to TABLE impeachment hearings back in July.... completely irrelevant to now.
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    Re: Trump: Why aren't we entitled to 'learn everything about' the whistleblower?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypothetical View Post
    the IMPEACHMENT vote comes later, but to Begin the investigation you VOTE to proceed with an impeachment INQUIRY.

    please read the link from house.gov I provided.
    "In Clinton’s case, the inquiry opened after the House received Kenneth W. Starr’s report. In Nixon’s case, the House Judiciary Committee spent months investigating and compiling evidence before voting to open an inquiry, which Democrats have pointed to as proof they can wait."

    GOP hopes impeachment inquiry vote will give them subpoena powers - Los Angeles Times

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    Re: Trump: Why aren't we entitled to 'learn everything about' the whistleblower?

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    Trump: Why aren't we entitled to 'learn everything about' the whistleblower? | TheHill

    President Trump on Tuesday reiterated his desire to meet with and question the whistleblower whose complaint about Trump's interactions with the leader of Ukraine ignited an impeachment inquiry.

    The president, who in recent days attacked the whistleblower as a "fraud" and attempted to undermine their credibility, questioned why he doesn't have the right to interview the anonymous individual.
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    Uhhh... because it would be breaking Federal law? The Thug-in-Chief knows very little about the Constitution & derivative laws, which is frightening.

    See Whistleblower Protection Act - Wikipedia
    Nope, no federal law hides the identity of a whistleblower. You are the one without a clue.

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    Re: Trump: Why aren't we entitled to 'learn everything about' the whistleblower?

    Quote Originally Posted by j brown's body View Post
    "In Clinton’s case, the inquiry opened after the House received Kenneth W. Starr’s report. In Nixon’s case, the House Judiciary Committee spent months investigating and compiling evidence before voting to open an inquiry, which Democrats have pointed to as proof they can wait."

    GOP hopes impeachment inquiry vote will give them subpoena powers - Los Angeles Times
    ok hire an INDEPENDENT COUNSEL then and have them investigate with NO LEAKING until the house wants to start impeachment, if they ever do, but the HOUSE site states THEIR inquiry begins with a VOTE to begin an impeachment inquiry.

    the DEMS are NOT going to sit here and have a kangaroo court in order to hurt Trump politically without following proper protocol, though... not if you want ANYONE with a brain to believe a word they say.

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    Re: Trump: Why aren't we entitled to 'learn everything about' the whistleblower?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypothetical View Post
    because sure they can do that... they can ASK anything.... but obviously the votes weren't there. at least it WAS A REQUEST for an actual VOTE of the full house per protocol.
    Green introduced an article of impeachment, to impeach Trump. He didn't introduce a resolution calling for an impeachment inquiry. When and if the House decides to impeach Trump, it will require a vote of the full House, a majority vote, because that is outlined in the Constitution. The Constitution does NOT outline a process whereby the House must first have a vote to conduct an impeachment inquiry.

    it DID pass.. it was a measure to TABLE impeachment hearings back in July.... completely irrelevant to now.
    You are complaining about the process, not outcomes. I referenced what Green did to demonstrate that no such mandatory process exists whereby the House must first vote for an impeachment inquiry before it investigates the conduct of the President.
    Last edited by W_Heisenberg; 10-21-19 at 04:32 PM.
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    Re: Trump: Why aren't we entitled to 'learn everything about' the whistleblower?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypothetical View Post
    ok hire an INDEPENDENT COUNSEL
    The independent counsel law expired and was not renewed.

    Your talking points are like 20 years out-of-date.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypothetical View Post
    the DEMS are NOT going to sit here and have a kangaroo court in order to hurt Trump politically without following proper protocol, though... not if you want ANYONE with a brain to believe a word they say.
    The trial takes place in the Senate.

    The House votes to impeach. The trial takes place in the Senate.

    All this is outlined in the U.S. Constitution.

    Also, the Republicans will be in charge of making the rules for the trial since they have a majority in the Senate.
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