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Trump Was Repeatedly Warned That Ukraine Conspiracy Theory Was ‘Completely Debunked’

Yeah, if someone golfs with someone else, they must be guilty of something.

And that is the crux of all Trumps claims. That somewhere in the world there must be a country that will say Biden did something bad and he will "mightly reward them". Meanwhile the articles of impeachment keep growing.
 
No he was investigating Burisma and the guy who replaced him closed the investigation.

LOL If that were true why did Trump need to extort the Ukraine President for dirt? Use you head.
 
They come out of the woodwork.
Right wing media has helped an entire group of people, some 30% of the population it seems, welcome, embrace, and defend conspiracy theories, in spite of evidence/reality. It's dangerous, and sad.

We should require physicians to treat them only with wild, unfounded and um-evidenced medical treatments until they agree that maybe that's a dangerous thing? No, we can't do stuff like that, because it's bad...
They are the dependent class of our society, depending on honest people, people who care about all Americans, to carry them while they trash **** up and throw wrenches into the gears. They could change that, they choose not to.

I'm reading a great book about WWII that touches on sterilization. Not saying that I'm a proponent, but the people who were in the mid-20th century would most definitely be Trump supporters. Even more interesting, most of them satisfy those same requirements for sterilization, if one disregards the Jewish stuff.
 
shrug...

If he can't handle observations about his public information, he shouldn't be mouthing off on TV.

If you can't handle reality, you shouldn't be on DP.

The biggest difference between DP and reality is that in reality, most people still fake decency.
 
I'm not a Trump fan, but this seems to me to be a totally partisan investigation. By his own admission, while Vice President, Joe Biden on behalf of the Obama Administration insisted that the previous prosecutor investigating corruption at the business that Hunter Biden was a director be fired or the Obama Administration would withhold over $1 billion in foreign aid to Ukraine. How is that even marginally any different from Donald Trump asking the President of Ukraine to resume the investigation of the business Hunter Biden was associated with?

Seems odd to me that this business was paying Hunter Biden $50,000 a month as a director when he had no experience or expertise in that business. Nice work if you have a daddy who can insist on you being hired.

Careful. There are a lot of DP members who don't allow non-Americans to comment on American topics. To be fair, though, they're almost all Trump supporters, so you're probably in the clear here. Just watch what you say about guns.
 
And they picked the most non-Christian man in the country.

Idiots.

He's as much a Christian as he is a Republican. And the same goes for most of his followers.
 
He's as much a Christian as he is a Republican. And the same goes for most of his followers.

i'm pretty sure i've sat beside many of these people on Sundays in church. heck, some are in my own family.

say one thing on Sunday. do the opposite Monday - Saturday.
 
Firstly, I didn't defend Trump at all - I simply pointed out that this issue seems to be a totally partisan one in that there has been no similar investigation, that I'm aware of, into what Joe Biden is accused of doing and which Joe Biden himself was bragging about doing.

Secondly, like it or not, President Trump as with any President has the right to appoint whomever he wants in positions where congressional approval isn't required. Are you claiming that President Trump bribed someone in some way in order to have certain members of his family appointed to his administration?

Thirdly, you didn't refer to the gist of my comment - that being that this is clearly, on the part of the American media and others on the left, a partisan double standard based solely on their continued visceral hatred of Donald Trump for having the audacity to defeat their chosen candidate, Hillary Clinton.

Much as I can't stand Donald Trump, he's absolutely right - his Presidency has been under constant attack from the left and its media shills from the day he was inaugurated. I've never witnessed anything quite like it and in my view it's a disgrace to your great country. As it stands now, the American media isn't appreciatively different from the state run media in China, Russia, or Iran, to name a few, with the exception that the party in power isn't running it, the opposition is.

Go out and defeat the guy in 2020, if you can.

I could write a book-long response to this inane post, but I'll just respond with one little nugget. No one on the left has been talking about Hillary Clinton for a very long time.
 
Do you think that the Ukranian prosecutor who was ousted for not investigating was investigating?

How does that work?

Seems he was ousted for investigating some that didn't want to be investigated and not investigating others that some wanted investigated. Funny that Americans, and Canadians for that matter, squeal like pigs if a politician interferes in criminal investigations at home and yet seem to have no problem if an American politician interferes in criminal investigations in a foreign country.
 
He's as much a Christian as he is a Republican. And the same goes for most of his followers.

Actually, Trump advocates heavily for the faith community. Look what he did with the Johnson Amendment, for example.

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i'm pretty sure i've sat beside many of these people on Sundays in church. heck, some are in my own family.

say one thing on Sunday. do the opposite Monday - Saturday.

You and me both. In my opinion, religion has lost so much of its influence because of them. There are tons of reasonable, spiritual, quasi-rational people who study religion and believe in god. The hypocritical freaks who have bastardized religion into what it is today have turned them all away. It's further evidence of the polarization of society and the ostracization of everyone who isn't a carbon copy moron.
 
Trump Was Repeatedly Warned That Ukraine Conspiracy Theory Was ‘Completely Debunked’



Whether it is just Trump’s penchants to tell lies, or mental illness, or his inability to separate facts from convenient fiction but it’s becoming increasingly clear that he isn’t capable of holding the office that he has. Even his staff is disturbed.

This is abnormally behavior for an American president and he not only is an embarrassment but a security risk. This guy has the launch codes.

A habitual lying and narcissistic white-nationalist conspiracy nutter. Our "Stable Genius" just invited China to also interfere in our 2020 election.

Donnie just has absolutely no confidence at all that he can beat Joe Biden head-on.
 
The previous investigation was for a period when Hunter Biden did not work there. Here's an example. Say you worked for a company in 2018 to 2019....the company is investigated for something that happened in 2000. Are you going to be responsible for what someone did in a company 2 decades prior to your employment? Of course not....this is what the right is accusing Hunter Biden of....and he wasn't employed there during the time the investigation covered.

Also, Biden had the prosecutor fired for NOT investigating Burrisma

And your bolded comment above causes you no concern? Firstly, that's not how I've read the information - the prosecutor was investigating Burisma, to my knowledge and after he was fired the investigation was closed. But doesn't it strike you as inappropriate, at the least, that an American Vice President would, in your words, have a prosecutor in the Ukraine fired?
 
I could write a book-long response to this inane post, but I'll just respond with one little nugget. No one on the left has been talking about Hillary Clinton for a very long time.

LOL - you're the master of the inane - if you think the left isn't still obsessed with Trump defeating Hillary Clinton, you've been residing under a rock for the past 3 years.
 
Careful. There are a lot of DP members who don't allow non-Americans to comment on American topics. To be fair, though, they're almost all Trump supporters, so you're probably in the clear here. Just watch what you say about guns.

I've been a member here about 6 years longer than you have, unless you're currently operating under a secondary user ID - as such, I need no guidance from you on how to conduct myself here.
 
I'm not a Trump fan, but this seems to me to be a totally partisan investigation. By his own admission, while Vice President, Joe Biden on behalf of the Obama Administration insisted that the previous prosecutor investigating corruption at the business that Hunter Biden was a director be fired or the Obama Administration would withhold over $1 billion in foreign aid to Ukraine. How is that even marginally any different from Donald Trump asking the President of Ukraine to resume the investigation of the business Hunter Biden was associated with?

Seems odd to me that this business was paying Hunter Biden $50,000 a month as a director when he had no experience or expertise in that business. Nice work if you have a daddy who can insist on you being hired.

In the case of the former Ukrainian prosecutor, he was a corrupt man who many in the international community wanted gone even before the incident with Biden's son. The incident itself was still investigated through official channels by Congress, which was under complete control by the Republicans at the time, and they found no wrongdoing. In the case of Trump's current actions with Ukraine, by all appearances, he's trying to open a settled case up in search of ammunition and to find an anti-Trump server that's rumored to be in Ukraine, and he's withholding military aid to a nation that is in no position to go without so that he can get the dirt he wants one way or another. This is also in spite of the fact that the server he's currently looking for has been confirmed within his own administration to be nothing more than a conspiracy theory. A lot of Trump supporters will deny that he's withholding aid for that purpose, that Biden's guilty of something no matter how innocent he's proven to be & that the server is totally real. A lot of Trump supporters are speaking from a place of hyperbolic, emotionally driven hysteria.

The two cases are only similar on the surface, but one party in the United States has a strong vested interest in playing up those similarities to deflect from the very likely guilt on Trump's part.
 
Actually, Trump advocates heavily for the faith community. Look what he did with the Johnson Amendment, for example.

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You're still relatively young and exceptionally gullible and naive. Hopefully, if/when you fully mature, you will understand the definition of 'lip service.'
 
POTUS was acting in the capacity of the World Leader in asking a country we give $$$ and $$$ to investigate corruption within its ranks. The prosecutor is on record stating he was fired because he was going to investigate the company Biden worked for.

FACT

-VySky
 
And your bolded comment above causes you no concern? Firstly, that's not how I've read the information - the prosecutor was investigating Burisma, to my knowledge and after he was fired the investigation was closed. But doesn't it strike you as inappropriate, at the least, that an American Vice President would, in your words, have a prosecutor in the Ukraine fired?

Several Republican Senators publicly called for the same thing. Are they in on the conspiracy with Biden?

Portman, Durbin, Shaheen, and Senate Ukraine Caucus Reaffirm Commitment to Help Ukraine Take on Corruption | Senator Rob Portman
 
In the case of the former Ukrainian prosecutor, he was a corrupt man who many in the international community wanted gone even before the incident with Biden's son. The incident itself was still investigated through official channels by Congress, which was under complete control by the Republicans at the time, and they found no wrongdoing. In the case of Trump's current actions with Ukraine, by all appearances, he's trying to open a settled case up in search of ammunition and to find an anti-Trump server that's rumored to be in Ukraine, and he's withholding military aid to a nation that is in no position to go without so that he can get the dirt he wants one way or another. This is also in spite of the fact that the server he's currently looking for has been confirmed within his own administration to be nothing more than a conspiracy theory. A lot of Trump supporters will deny that he's withholding aid for that purpose, that Biden's guilty of something no matter how innocent he's proven to be & that the server is totally real. A lot of Trump supporters are speaking from a place of hyperbolic, emotionally driven hysteria.

The two cases are only similar on the surface, but one party in the United States has a strong vested interest in playing up those similarities to deflect from the very likely guilt on Trump's part.

Please point us to the documents pertained within the Congressional Inquiry of the Biden's.

-VySky
 
Corruption runs deep on both sides of the aisle

-VySky
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Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived | TheHill


Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived. But Ukrainian officials tell me there was one crucial piece of information that Biden must have known but didn’t mention to his audience: The prosecutor he got fired was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings that employed Biden’s younger son, Hunter, as a board member.

U.S. banking records show Hunter Biden’s American-based firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, received regular transfers into one of its accounts — usually more than $166,000 a month — from Burisma from spring 2014 through fall 2015, during a period when Vice President Biden was the main U.S. official dealing with Ukraine and its tense relations with Russia.
 
You and me both. In my opinion, religion has lost so much of its influence because of them. There are tons of reasonable, spiritual, quasi-rational people who study religion and believe in god. The hypocritical freaks who have bastardized religion into what it is today have turned them all away. It's further evidence of the polarization of society and the ostracization of everyone who isn't a carbon copy moron.

You nailed it.
 
Corruption runs deep on both sides of the aisle

-VySky
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Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived | TheHill


Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived. But Ukrainian officials tell me there was one crucial piece of information that Biden must have known but didn’t mention to his audience: The prosecutor he got fired was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings that employed Biden’s younger son, Hunter, as a board member.

U.S. banking records show Hunter Biden’s American-based firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, received regular transfers into one of its accounts — usually more than $166,000 a month — from Burisma from spring 2014 through fall 2015, during a period when Vice President Biden was the main U.S. official dealing with Ukraine and its tense relations with Russia.

1. It was public knowledge that Hunter was on the Board when Joe was calling for the prosecutor to be fired, it wasn't a secret at all
2. Several Republican Senators publicly called for the same thing. Are they in on the conspiracy with Biden?
 
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