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Stephen Miller says Trump is 'real whistleblower' and calls complaint 'partisan hit job' ...

roughdraft274 said:
It amazes me that anyone is still attempting to use those talking points. "It's second hand!" Well it's also ****ing true. You can't scream about second hand sources after we found where you buried the bodies. I shouldn't be surprised, after all these dumb mother ****ers are still arguing that Flynn, after pleading guilty for lying to the FBI and admitting under oath that he knew he was lying and he knew it was illegal to lie to the FBI when he did it, are still trying to say that he was trapped into it and that he didn't really lie.
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You bring up a valid point about the second hand information. Hearsay or not - regardless if this went through ten different people before getting to the whistleblower - it has already been admitted by the White House. Its a done deal nd there is no argument that the President asked a foreign nation for help to him politically and then tried to cover it up.

We have already firmly established this and there is no dispute about it.
 
haymarket said:
You bring up a valid point about the second hand information. Hearsay or not - regardless if this went through ten different people before getting to the whistleblower - it has already been admitted by the White House. Its a done deal nd there is no argument that the President asked a foreign nation for help to him politically and then tried to cover it up.

We have already firmly established this and there is no dispute about it.
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Exactly. All we are looking at now is the extent of the pressure applied and how explicit was the quid pro quo was. Because all we've seen is a tiny little sliver of everything that has happened and it's already incredibly damning and requires removal from office. The presidency requires someone who has the countries best interest at heart and cares about free and fair elections. This president has shown very clearly he cares about neither. He will withhold vital aid money to an ally on a whim if he thinks it benefits him politically. He will bribe world leaders to interfere in our election if it's in his interest. He will excuse the interference of a foreign country for interfering in our elections all the while lying to the public that it never happened. He despises America and everything it stands for.
 
bubbabgone said:
Critical of Miller because he looked clueless, but Wallace because it looked like he didn't want any knowledgeable pushback so he got Miller.
Like Wallace's references to statements by the DNI left out important details.
And his comment about no investigations of Burisma was simply wrong.
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Wallace used to be better at hiding his Never Trump status. Not any more.
 
SLC said:
Hey Lurch then he would be right at home with the Addam's family.
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No he's more of a Munster - he'd be more at home "hanging out" with Grandpa and Eddie:)

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roughdraft274 said:
Exactly. All we are looking at now is the extent of the pressure applied and how explicit was the quid pro quo was. Because all we've seen is a tiny little sliver of everything that has happened and it's already incredibly damning and requires removal from office. .
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They got their military aid and they have begun no investigations. It was nonexistant
 
dixon01767 said:
They got their military aid and they have begun no investigations. It was nonexistant
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They got the aid only after Trump was caught with his hand in the cookie jar. That's not a defense for the indefensible.
 
haymarket said:
You bring up a valid point about the second hand information. Hearsay or not - regardless if this went through ten different people before getting to the whistleblower - it has already been admitted by the White House. Its a done deal nd there is no argument that the President asked a foreign nation for help to him politically and then tried to cover it up..
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Sounds like to me he asked him to investigate a potential crime. If there was a crime its beneficial to the US to reveal such illegality. If there is no crime it will help Biden and damage Trump.
 
roughdraft274 said:
They got the aid only after Trump was caught with his hand in the cookie jar. That's not a defense for the indefensible.
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They got the aid after some congressmen threatened to cut military appropriations if he didn't distribute the aid.
 
Marine Electric said:
I haven't heard Crooked Donald or any of his butt-lickers actually articulate what law Hunter Biden is accused of breaking?

Can anyone enlighten me?

:confused:
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You have not heard it because they have no answer to it.

Nobody has been able to say what law Hunter Biden broke. That is because he didn't break any laws. I know in Trump Fan Nation the only allowed nepotism is when it benefits his own spawn and their spouses, but that isn't how the real world works.

Miller proved yesterday what a corrupt piece of **** his boss is.
 
dixon01767 said:
Sounds like to me he asked him to investigate a potential crime. If there was a crime its beneficial to the US to reveal such illegality. If there is no crime it will help Biden and damage Trump.
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That's what we have a DOJ and intelligence agencies for. The President's personal attorney doesn't investigate crime on behalf of the United States.
 
bubbabgone said:
Stephen Miller is a speechwriter.
If Wallace intended to ask for details about Ukraine and mention Giuliani he should have gotten Giuliani or someone more steeped in the subject than Miller.
Like DiGenova and Toensing. Or reporters who have investigated.
There are things that have been reported that apparently Wallace didn't know.
Same for the other selective questions he asked.
Miller was the wrong guy to put out there.
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LOL! Miller is ALWAYS the wrong guy to put out there. He comes across as being an angry fascist.
 
roughdraft274 said:
Trump didn't have much in terms of immigration policy during the campaign besides build the wall and **** mexicans. He never talked about taking kids away from parents or sending sick children back to their home countries when they are here for healthcare, changing the regulations that allows ICE to go to public schools and detain parents dropping off their kids (in an attempt to stop illegal immigrant families from sending their kids to public schools) etc. etc. Stephen Miller is the one that actually takes the hatred of hispanics that Trump displayed and turns it into horrific but tangible policy efforts.
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Then you don't remember Trump talking about illegal immigration in the campaign.
 
dixon01767 said:
Wallace used to be better at hiding his Never Trump status. Not any more.
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It was pretty obvious. Some of those guys seem to be too eager for attaboys from the wrong people.
 
bubbabgone said:
Then you don't remember Trump talking about illegal immigration in the campaign.
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Feel free to tell me where he said he was going to steal money from military projects to pay for a wall, or that he was going to separate parents from children. I already know you won't, cause you can't.
 
SLC said:
Yep Wallace should have interviewed Giuliani if he wanted answers to those questions. Wallace is generally a good interviewed by that wasn't one of his better moments.
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Giuliani, Schweizer, or Solomon.
 
roughdraft274 said:
Feel free to tell me where he said he was going to steal money from military projects to pay for a wall, or that he was going to separate parents from children. I already know you won't, cause you can't.
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Trump is commander in chief and it’s his duty to protect the country as he sees fit so no it isn’t stealing money from the military. When people

get caught breaking the law they generally get separated from their kids. Trump told them to stay home it was their choice to break our laws. Bush and Obama also separated parents from kids
 
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roughdraft274 said:
Feel free to tell me where he said he was going to steal money from military projects to pay for a wall, or that he was going to separate parents from children. I already know you won't, cause you can't.
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I guess he didn't think the Resistance would make it necessary but that open border crowd really does want to win at any cost.
 
SLC said:
Trump is commander in chief and it’s his duty to protect the country as he sees fit so no it isn’t stealing money from the military
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You're right. He's not technically stealing. He's just ****ing over the troops and their families. Thx for the correction.
 
tres borrachos said:
That's what we have a DOJ and intelligence agencies for. The President's personal attorney doesn't investigate crime on behalf of the United States.
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That wasn't Rudy he was asking to investigate the gas company and Bidens dealings with them. It was the new president of Ukraine. We have a treaty with Ukraine signed during the Clinton administration to cooperate with Ukraine, and they with us in criminal investigations.
DOH! Did You Know There's a Treaty Between the USA & Ukraine Regarding Cooperation For Prosecuting Crimes? - DCWhispers.com
 
bubbabgone said:
I said he was fiercely loyal. That's makes him invaluable for Trump.
As for him driving policy for Trump, answer this question ... how have Trump's policies changed from what they were during his campaign 3 years ago? ... that would be before he ever met Stephen Miller.
They are the same policies.
Miller implements and promotes the policies ... he may agree with the policies ... he will writes speeches about them ... but he doesn't create them.
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Please research Stephen Miller's influence over Trump's immigration policy. You may be surprised. Trump is good at articulating the hate, Miller puts it in action.
 
dixon01767 said:
That wasn't Rudy he was asking to investigate the gas company and Bidens dealings with them. It was the new president of Ukraine. We have a treaty with Ukraine signed during the Clinton administration to cooperate with Ukraine, and they with us in criminal investigations.
DOH! Did You Know There's a Treaty Between the USA & Ukraine Regarding Cooperation For Prosecuting Crimes? - DCWhispers.com
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Rudy was sent there by Trump, according to him. Or is Rudy lying?

Trump asked the President of the Ukraine to investigate a debunked conspiracy theory. And did a quid pro quo while doing it. That's why he's in big trouble.

And if there is a treaty that says the US will do it, he would send his DOJ over there.
 
bubbabgone said:
I guess he didn't think the Resistance would make it necessary but that open border crowd really does wants to win at any cost.
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He had the senate and the house for almost 2 years. They could have funded the wall VIA reconciliation (as they did with tax cuts) any time they wanted. They chose not to, and Trump didn't press for it because he was too busy asking for military parades and playing golf and trying to get military money spend at his properties. He didn't care about the wall other than the fact that it gets incredibly stupid people very excited. Blaming it on democrats or "the resistance" is another way of saying that Trump is a helpless little retard.
 
bubbabgone said:
It was pretty obvious. Some of those guys seem to be too eager for attaboys from the wrong people.
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Him repeatedly stating that Trump asked him to "dig up dirt on Biden" when he asked him to look into the beginnings of the Trump/ Russia collusion accusation starting in Ukraine, Crowd Strike who Hillary paid to examine her servers and the DNC paid to examine theirs for the evidence of hacking, because they refused to turn it over to the fbi AND Burismo and Biden threatening to cut off aid if the prosecutor investigating Burismo at the time wasn't fired, showed me Wallace wasn't even trying to hide it.
 
tres borrachos said:
You have not heard it because they have no answer to it.

Nobody has been able to say what law Hunter Biden broke. That is because he didn't break any laws. I know in Trump Fan Nation the only allowed nepotism is when it benefits his own spawn and their spouses, but that isn't how the real world works.

Miller proved yesterday what a corrupt piece of **** his boss is.
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Hunter Biden got a job with a big salary because of his last name. Anyone else in the news guilty of that lately?

The R hypocrisy is pure comedy.

:lamo:laughat::2rofll:
 
JMR said:
Please research Stephen Miller's influence over Trump's immigration policy. You may be surprised. Trump is good at articulating the hate, Miller puts it in action.
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Please research #62.

"As for him driving policy for Trump, answer this question ... how have Trump's policies changed from what they were during his campaign 3 years ago? ... that would be before he ever met Stephen Miller.
They are the same policies.
Miller implements and promotes the policies ... he may agree with the policies ... he will writes speeches about them ... but he doesn't create them."
 
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