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Trump Repeatedly Pressed Ukraine President to Investigate Biden's Son

CharisRose said:
Then the People's Representative's who have proof that their suspicions are reasonable should get busy and do their job and stop with the faux impeachment and proceed with The Real Impeachment using all of the evidence they have gathered over the years Trump has been in office.

Why do you suppose they are stalling to remove that man who is so unfit (according to them) to be POTUS via a Real Impeachment?

Could it be they only have suspicions and don't have any real evidence to proceed with a Real Impeachment?

And are stuck using a faux impeachment with the help of the media to make him look suspicious in the Public Arena simply for Political Reasons.

Roseann:)
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Oh, do you think if they began a formal impeachment inquiry the White House would suddenly start handing over documents and letting people provide testimony?
 
I love watching Hannity on days like this.
 
Acadia said:
Asking is pressure? Pressure would be extortion. No quid pro quo.
Why should any President ignore corruption just because the subject in question happens to have his hat in the 2020 race?
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Wasn't there the added matter of a foreign aid package to Ukraine being held up by the White House for weeks ..before, during, and after this phone call?
 
Trump said:
then folks wouldn't be talking about it....Biden's dirty and MSM won't chase the story....this way they must.
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And he only had to shoot himself in the foot, several times to implement his grand plan.

4d chess y'all.
 
W_Heisenberg said:
Oh, do you think if they began a formal impeachment inquiry the White House would suddenly start handing over documents and letting people provide testimony?
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So, in other words... The Representatives don't have any actual evidence?

So, all the documents they have received and all the testimonies they have heard over the years have yielded ziltch?

The Mueller Report was ineffective?

So, I was right all they have are suspicions and no evidence and are stuck with a faux impeachment.

Roseann:)
 
CharisRose said:
So, in other words... The Representatives don't have any actual evidence?

So, all the documents they have received and all the testimonies they have heard over the years have yielded ziltch?

The Mueller Report was ineffective?

So, I was right all they have are suspicions and no evidence and are stuck with a faux impeachment.

Roseann:)
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What are you talking about? I'm curious. What documents do you think they've received? What testimonies do you think they've heard? The Democrats have controlled the house for less than a year, the DOJ won't let Congress see any of the underlying evidence pertaining to the Mueller report, and the White House keeps blocking important witnesses from testifying. We've had a handful of important witnesses testify like Comey and Mueller, but that's not enough. Maybe you are talking about the sham hearings the Republicans held when they were in the majority? Do you want the House to impeach without them doing their own investigation and investigating the matter fully?
 
Re: Trump Repeatedly Pressed Ukraine President to Investigate Biden’s Son

Lutherf said:
Based on the WSJ article, is it Biden or Trump you think might be subject to that statute?
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In the context of this thread it's Trump. However, tbh I'm really not up top speed on the Biden/Ukraine angle. I'll need to look into it more.
 
HumblePi said:
Yes, he'd have to gain 60 pounds, bleach his hair gold, get a dark umber spray tan, learn to mimic Trump's dry mouth speaking words like "and God blesh the Unidid Schtates". And Harrison Ford made up to look like Rudy with his bloodshot beady eyes squinting trying to read his notes. Now, that's a movie I'd pay to go see.
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I think he'd have to unretire too.
 
JMR said:
Wasn't there the added matter of a foreign aid package to Ukraine being held up by the White House for weeks ..before, during, and after this phone call?
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It was never held up. It was never a quid pro quo. Not the case with Obama/Biden.
 
The Ukraine has already investigated, there was no wrong doing on the part of Hunter Biden. So sorry Adorables, no do overs.
 
Acadia said:
It was never held up. It was never a quid pro quo. Not the case with Obama/Biden.
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I see you disagree with all news reports that the aid was "Held Up"

Trump administration reinstates military aid for Ukraine - Reuters

President Donald Trump’s administration has released $250 million in military aid for Ukraine, U.S. senators said on Thursday, after lawmakers from both parties expressed concern that the White House had held up money approved by Congress.
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Some Democrats had questioned whether the administration had withheld the money to put pressure on Ukraine’s government to support Trump’s re-election campaign by launching an investigation into one of Trump’s main rivals in the 2020 U.S. election.
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Republican and Democratic members of the Senate Appropriations Committee said the White House released the money on Wednesday night, hours before the panel was due to debate an amendment to a defense spending bill that would have prevented Trump from such actions in the future.

An administration official confirmed that the money had been released, providing no explanation.
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please note the date of the article is 9/12/19
 
poweRob said:
Not a ****ing chance in hell. Trumpettes will restate their position as they don't care. It's a rather simple formula. They aren't ever going to stop backing their messiah.

*edit... case and point



This is what Trump's followers do he shoots someone on fifth avenue.
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Give Trump credit, he has the Christian morals of stealing, lying, and racism down pat, so it's little wonder they won't attack one of their own.
 
yankintx said:
The Ukraine has already investigated, there was no wrong doing on the part of Hunter Biden. So sorry Adorables, no do overs.
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That isn't the question. The question is: what did Biden's son get paid for by giving him a board position in the Ukraine gas company?

Hunter Biden has/had neither the qualifications nor the knowledge to sit on the board of a gas company ... but his father was the go-to-guy for $$$ from the US.


"... “In 2014, Ukrainians, sick of corruption, revolted. Vice President Joe Biden went to Kiev to help the new government,” Llamas explained. That was followed by a soundbite of Biden telling the Ukrainians: “You have to fight the cancer of corruption.” Llamas exposed the apparent hypocrisy of that statement: “Just three weeks later a Ukrainian natural gas company, Burisma, accused of corruption, appoints Hunter Biden, seen here in their promotional videos, to their board of directors, paying his firm more than a million dollars a year.” ..."

Wow: ABC Actually Covers Corruption Concerns About Biden’s Son
 
Acadia said:
It was never held up. It was never a quid pro quo. Not the case with Obama/Biden.
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If it’s reasonably evidenced it is quid pro quo, will you oppose trump? That’s all that really matters..we’ve heard you and others rationalize all the known bad for. 3 years. And I’f you won’t oppose him, you are complicit and your arguments are irrelevant to debate since there is no standards you’ll accept to oppose him.
 
Seth Masket Tweet

On the one hand you have a whistleblower saying Trump pressured Ukraine to interfere in the US election but on the other hand you have Trump’s lawyer saying Trump pressured Ukraine to interfere in the US election and I don’t know who to believe.
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:lol:
 
Acadia said:
It was never held up. It was never a quid pro quo. Not the case with Obama/Biden.
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Yeah, actually it was. Look it up...burst a few of your cult bubbles...
 
Mycroft said:
Forget I mentioned it...at least, until the time comes when the undeniable facts are revealed and even your Trump hating, Obama loving media can't ignore them.

We all know what "sources" you consider "reputable".
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Typical... you got nothing. I don't blame you for not wanting to show the rest of us where you get your news. No one likes being laughed at. But, of course, the net-net, you can't defend your claims, so by rules of debate, we get to consider them NOT TRUE.

The sources I consider reputable, most of the world reputable. I don't read political porn.

This is pretty good guide of reputable sources.

Media Bias/Fact Check - Search and Learn the Bias of News Media

If your statement can't be verified by from sources labeled as having "high" factual integrity, then your statetments can't be verified.... so why waste all of our time by making them.
 
Barnacle said:
That isn't the question. The question is: what did Biden's son get paid for by giving him a board position in the Ukraine gas company?

Hunter Biden has/had neither the qualifications nor the knowledge to sit on the board of a gas company ... but his father was the go-to-guy for $$$ from the US.


"... “In 2014, Ukrainians, sick of corruption, revolted. Vice President Joe Biden went to Kiev to help the new government,” Llamas explained. That was followed by a soundbite of Biden telling the Ukrainians: “You have to fight the cancer of corruption.” Llamas exposed the apparent hypocrisy of that statement: “Just three weeks later a Ukrainian natural gas company, Burisma, accused of corruption, appoints Hunter Biden, seen here in their promotional videos, to their board of directors, paying his firm more than a million dollars a year.” ..."

Wow: ABC Actually Covers Corruption Concerns About Biden’s Son
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Newsbusters,eh?

A wingnut conspiracy cess pool. You can do better Barnacle, oh wait, no you cant.


Again, the investigation was conducted. As in the words of Rump himself, no do overs.
 
Acadia said:
Asking is pressure? Pressure would be extortion. No quid pro quo.
Why should any President ignore corruption just because the subject in question happens to have his hat in the 2020 race?
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From what I understood it was "you are going to investigate or I will hold off with my 250 million in aid".
 
Cardinal said:
A US President using his office to pressure a foreign country to interfere in our election.



Trump Repeatedly Pressed Ukraine President to Investigate Biden’s Son - WSJ
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So far the left has no proof of any illegal action and no proof of a quid pro quo. Just another democrat attempt to discredit Trump because they can't win an election. Their hatred of Trump will drive them to do anything legal or not to try to remove him from office. They do not care if it hurts the country or not. It's power they want in order to implement their extreme socialist policies.
 
Cardinal said:
A US President using his office to pressure a foreign country to interfere in our election.



Trump Repeatedly Pressed Ukraine President to Investigate Biden’s Son - WSJ
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Trump wants to help end the corruption in Ukraine and investigating Biden's son is a good start to that,
his suggestion is good foreign policy. Biden on the other hand was aware of the corruption in Ukraine
and took advantage of it, rather than trying to stem bribery & graft in Ukraine he in fact exploited it!!!

It's odd to believe Trump made that call to embarrass a political opponent, Listen, if
Trumps intentions were to do that he would have called China where Biden landed even a load
of more money for his son. The Ukraine job was just small potatoes compared to the China
deal Joe got from China for his sons fledgling private equity firm!

Knowing Google I'm surprised they haven't taken down this video in the light of recent events,

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