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Doomsdays that didn't happen: Think tank compiles decades' worth of dire climate predictions

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Doomsdays that didn’t happen: Think tank compiles decades’ worth of dire climate predictions | Fox News

The dire predictions, often repeated in the media, warned of a variety of impending disasters – famine, drought, an ice age, and even disappearing nations – if the world failed to act on climate change.


An Associated Press headline from 1989 read "Rising seas could obliterate nations: U.N. officials." The article detailed a U.N. environmental official warning that entire nations would be eliminated if the world failed to reverse warming by 2000.


Then there were the fears that the world would experience a never-ending "cooling trend in the Northern Hemisphere." That claim came from an "international team of specialists" cited by The New York Times in 1978.
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Earlier this month, leading Democratic presidential candidates held a town hall on the issue and warned about the "existential" threat posed by a changing climate. Before the end of the month, 2020 candidates are expected to have another climate forum at Georgetown University.


CEI's report came just before the U.N. Climate Action Summit on Sept. 23, an event that promises to "spark the transformation that is urgently needed and propel action that will benefit everyone."


It also came a week after Rep. Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., warned that Miami would be gone in a "few years" because of climate change. She was responding to critics of her ambitious "Green New Deal," which seeks to reach net-zero emissions within just decades.
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I'm glad that at least some in the MSM are reporting that this apocalyptic climate nonsense as just that, nonsense.
 
I am more concerned about CO2 driving down plant protein levels than I am The Day After Tomorrow scenarios.
 
Some predicted an economic depression/recession would hit in 2016. It did not happen. I guess that means depressions will never happen?
 
Geoist said:
Some predicted an economic depression/recession would hit in 2016. It did not happen. I guess that means depressions will never happen?
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Huge difference between making financial predictions on the market and claiming that an apocalyptic event will end the world- even a five year old can tell its not even remotely the same thing...
 
That sources was mostly about sporadic news stories over many decades.

While the evidence of the urgent need for action on manmade global warming is today so overwhelming that all the world's leading scientific societies acknowledge that fact. Like for example these 31 organizations.

https://www.esa.org/esa/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/2016climateletter6-28-16.pdf

There the evidence today is so overwhelming that even federal agencies under Donald Trump and fossil fuel companies have to acknowledge the urgent need for action.

Fourth National Climate Assessment

Statements on Paris climate agreement | ExxonMobil

While deniers can't even agree on if it we will have global cooling or global warming.

'In an article for the Guardian, one of the researchers, Dana Nuccitelli points out another red flag with the climate-change-denying papers: “There is no cohesive, consistent alternative theory to human-caused global warming,” he writes. “Some blame global warming on the sun, others on orbital cycles of other planets, others on ocean cycles, and so on. There is a 97% expert consensus on a cohesive theory that’s overwhelmingly supported by the scientific evidence, but the 2–3% of papers that reject that consensus are all over the map, even contradicting each other.”'

The 3% of scientific papers that deny climate change are all flawed — Quartz

While you also have a lot of crazy claims from deniers, like for example that the president of United States have claimed that climate change is a Chinese hoax.

Donald J. Trump on Twitter: "The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive."
 
Our problem is still the same.

To further politicize climate change the result has been dire predictions that largely have not happened, the response has been further skepticism of the "science" behind those predictions, and ultimately that makes the whole thing a bigger mess in expectation that we will do anything.

That is the reality we are stuck with, and at the same time we still know we impact our environment but no one wants to be reasonable with what we see or what to do about it.

In short, the political spin machine screwed this up and it took "science" down with it.
 
PoS said:
Huge difference between making financial predictions on the market and claiming that an apocalyptic event will end the world- even a five year old can tell its not even remotely the same thing...
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Some predict apocalypse when it comes to the economy. Finding a few who exaggerate really doesn’t prove anything.
 
PoS said:
I'm glad that at least some in the MSM are reporting that this apocalyptic climate nonsense as just that, nonsense.
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Ummm...wut? Not a single one of these doomsday predictions has been proven wrong yet. In fact, they're still right on schedule with some concerns coming out recently that things could actually be worse and we're heating up faster than we originally thought.

The most severe damage done by Climate Change likely won't be seen until a good 30 years down the road and maybe longer than that, but this problem is like a snowball rolling down a hill. There comes a point where the momentum will make it to great to stop and we don't want to get to that point.
 
MrWonka said:
Ummm...wut? Not a single one of these doomsday predictions has been proven wrong yet. In fact, they're still right on schedule with some concerns coming out recently that things could actually be worse and we're heating up faster than we originally thought.

The most severe damage done by Climate Change likely won't be seen until a good 30 years down the road and maybe longer than that, but this problem is like a snowball rolling down a hill. There comes a point where the momentum will make it to great to stop and we don't want to get to that point.
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So, do you want is sunny and warm tomorrow or cold and wet?
 
MrWonka said:
Ummm...wut? Not a single one of these doomsday predictions has been proven wrong yet. In fact, they're still right on schedule with some concerns coming out recently that things could actually be worse and we're heating up faster than we originally thought.

The most severe damage done by Climate Change likely won't be seen until a good 30 years down the road and maybe longer than that, but this problem is like a snowball rolling down a hill. There comes a point where the momentum will make it to great to stop and we don't want to get to that point.
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Between momentum and attitude, I think we have passed the tipping point......
 
Rexedgar said:
Between momentum and attitude, I think we have passed the tipping point......
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I have dreams where in five-hundred years the temperature is five-hundred degrees and the oceans have all boiled away.
 
Exquisitor said:
I have dreams where in five-hundred years the temperature is five-hundred degrees and the oceans have all boiled away.
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Think of all the salt that there would be......
 
Grand Mal said:
So it's not an impending apocalypse, or as impending. Do you deny that warming is happening, and it's starting to have a bad effect on some of us?
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Even the article admit as such.
 
Rexedgar said:
Think of all the salt that there would be......
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Hey, that's a great conspiracy theory.

The elite go into space and need salt for their inter-stellar journeys.
 
Exquisitor said:
Hey, that's a great conspiracy theory.

The elite go into space and need salt for their inter-stellar journeys.
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You need to dream a little closer to the present......just sayin’.
 
Geoist said:
Some predicted an economic depression/recession would hit in 2016. It did not happen. I guess that means depressions will never happen?
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No, but it means that we cannot accept the doomsayers at face value.
 
Grand Mal said:
I might want sunny and warm but I need cold and wet.
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The first key in controlling the weather is to let it do what it wants.

The sea levels have been rising for centuries and our anomalic data stays within this line, although it is visible where man's influence could go off the charts which would be a big disturbance much like a time paradox to not have the sea levels where they are in the future.

In a short time humans could master the weather and siphon excess water into space.

If we fail, we go like Venus, although, we don't know exactly how she went.
 
Grand Mal said:
So it's not an impending apocalypse, or as impending. Do you deny that warming is happening, and it's starting to have a bad effect on some of us?
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No rational person denies that climate changes, it been going on for eons. Rational people also KNOW that there is NOTHING that we can do to reverse it.
 
Geoist said:
Some predicted an economic depression/recession would hit in 2016. It did not happen. I guess that means depressions will never happen?
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Those would be man-made for sure.
 
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