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Trump: Administration Is Revoking California Emissions Waiver

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President Trump said Wednesday that he is taking away California’s power to set its own vehicle tailpipe emissions standards, escalating an environmental dispute that has trapped auto makers in the middle.
Mr. Trump said a single federal emissions standard would lower auto prices for consumers. California’s top elected officials said the president was serving the interests of big oil companies and vowed to challenge the administration in court.
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Trump: Administration Is Revoking California Emissions Waiver - WSJ

The waiver was to improve air quality. It has been in place for decades.

He clearly is trying to gain favor with the oil industry.

So much for states rights.

Other article if you can't access WSJ

Trump fight on California auto emissions could outlast presidency - Reuters
 
I hope that puts the Toyota FJ Cruiser back on the market.
 
So much for that conservative principle of states rights. No administration has ever revoked a state’s authority to regulate its own air quality in the past.
 
Now it's time for cultists who hate "big Gubbimnt" to come and tell us what a thing it is for trump to take aw state rights and increase our pollution.

Trump is hands down the worst thing to happen to a clean america in my lifetime...
 
MTAtech said:
So much for that conservative principle of states rights. No administration has ever revoked a state’s authority to regulate its own air quality in the past.
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It's almost as if he does not hew to any conservative principles except when it happens to coincide with what he wants.

He seems to view conservatism the way Turkey's Erdogan views democracy. A streetcar that you take for a bit and when you come to your stop, you get off.
 
MTAtech said:
So much for that conservative principle of states rights. No administration has ever revoked a state’s authority to regulate its own air quality in the past.
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Trump has admitted he has never read his own books, why would he be bothered to read the Constitution???
 
year2late said:
Trump: Administration Is Revoking California Emissions Waiver - WSJ

The waiver was to improve air quality. It has been in place for decades.

He clearly is trying to gain favor with the oil industry.

So much for states rights.

Other article if you can't access WSJ

Trump fight on California auto emissions could outlast presidency - Reuters
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Emissions standards won't go down, if only because auto manufacturers won't drop them just because of some silly fight between fedgov and california.
 
The Mark said:
Emissions standards won't go down, if only because auto manufacturers won't drop them just because of some silly fight between fedgov and california.
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OK, so why the theatrics then???
 
MTAtech said:
So much for that conservative principle of states rights. No administration has ever revoked a state’s authority to regulate its own air quality in the past.
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States rights? The atmosphere does not stop at any State border.

The Federal government regulates generally under the "commerce clause" as expanded by acts of Congress. The EPA is the Federal agency which handles such things nationally. Then there is the "Clean Air Act."

Where do you think the emissions "waiver" came from in the first place?
 
I agree California should not have the ability to control the auto industry. If it does, then any state also could declare no one has to follow federal regulations for auto manufacturing in their state as states bid for companies to come to their state. If states have this authority over car emissions, each state could change any other federal regulations they don't like.
 
Felis Leo said:
It's almost as if he does not hew to any conservative principles except when it happens to coincide with what he wants.
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The only ideological principle Trump holds to is demagoguery
 
joko104 said:
I agree California should not have the ability to control the auto industry. If it does, then any state also could declare no one has to follow federal regulations for auto manufacturing in their state as states bid for companies to come to their state. If states have this authority over car emissions, each state could change any other federal regulations they don't like.
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You don't understand federal regulations do you?

A state is allowed to be stricter than federal regulations, however they can not be weaker...
 
Captain Adverse said:
States rights? The atmosphere does not stop at any State border.

The Federal government regulates generally under the "commerce clause" as expanded by acts of Congress. The EPA is the Federal agency which handles such things nationally. Then there is the "Clean Air Act."

Where do you think the emissions "waiver" came from in the first place?
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Which then makes no sense that the administration would revoke the most strict regulations in the country, guaranteed to make the atmosphere not stopped at any State border will be dirtier.
 
The Mark said:
Emissions standards won't go down, if only because auto manufacturers won't drop them just because of some silly fight between fedgov and california.
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They also wouldn't have voluntarily agreed if it meant that they were going to lose money making high gas efficiency models either.
 
MTAtech said:
Which then makes no sense that the administration would revoke the most strict regulations in the country, guaranteed to make the atmosphere not stopped at any State border will be dirtier.
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I am not arguing that. I don't agree with the action.

My sole point was to counter the claim the Federal government could not revoke what it granted.

I agree that emissions need to be controlled.
 
It's almost like trump has a team of the very best people looking for stupid **** to do.

" Well you could do this sir but it would be ****ing stupid"

Trump: hand me my phone I need to tweet...
 
Trump claimed this action will make cars safer. Lol. Seriously, what the ****.
 
GDViking said:
It's almost like trump has a team of the very best people looking for stupid **** to do.

" Well you could do this sir but it would be ****ing stupid"

Trump: hand me my phone I need to tweet...
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If it trolls the evil libs then he is all for it.
 
“The California emissions regulations would impact Americans in other states who have no ability to vote those state legislators out of office,” said Adam Brandon, the president of FreedomWorks, a libertarian offshoot of a group co-founded by the late David H. Koch and his brother Charles Koch, who made their fortune in fossil fuels. “It is regulation without representation at its worst.”
Trump Defends Plan to Kill California’s Auto-Emissions Authority - The New York Times

No need for me to point out the hypocrisy of these right-'libertarians.'
 
ElChupacabra said:
They also wouldn't have voluntarily agreed if it meant that they were going to lose money making high gas efficiency models either.
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They've already designed and tooled their factories to make the more efficient models, I expect.
It'll cost more to reduce efficiency than keep as is, and all indications are that standards will become more strict in the future.
 
The Mark said:
They've already designed and tooled their factories to make the more efficient models, I expect.
It'll cost more to reduce efficiency than keep as is, and all indications are that standards will become more strict in the future.
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If this administration wants a national standard, then just follow the California example because it sets higher goals already agreed to by some of the largest auto manufacturers. And I agree that this will change little in terms of the long term planning auto makers have been making in this area. There's a demand for more efficient vehicles and there's a savings to the cost of ownership over the long term.
 
year2late said:
Trump: Administration Is Revoking California Emissions Waiver - WSJ

The waiver was to improve air quality. It has been in place for decades.

He clearly is trying to gain favor with the oil industry.

So much for states rights.

Other article if you can't access WSJ

Trump fight on California auto emissions could outlast presidency - Reuters
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Here we go again...

Another forum member who doesn't know how to do a search to find out that at least three other members have already started threads about this very same topic.

Oh well, I'll just repeat what is REALLY happening here:

The Trump Administration is revoking California’s Federal Waiver on emissions in order to produce far less expensive cars for the consumer, while at the same time making the cars substantially SAFER. This will lead to more production because of this pricing and safety advantage, and also due to the fact that older, highly polluting cars, will be replaced by new, extremely environmentally friendly cars. There will be very little difference in emissions between the California Standard and the new U.S. Standard, but the cars will be far safer and much less expensive. Many more cars will be produced under the new and uniform standard, meaning significantly more JOBS, JOBS, JOBS! Automakers should seize this opportunity because without this alternative to California, you will be out of business.

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