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Trump’s communications with foreign leader are part of whistleblower complaint that spurred standoff

iguanaman said:
LOL No one cares about Hillary and Obama, it's the traitor in the Whitehouse that is the subject here. If you don't like it move to Russia, you deserve it. Trump is a disgrace to our flag and those that follow him need to get the message. If they still want to be Americans that is. Otherwise they are free to leave if Putin will have you.
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Trump as President Is the worst thing to ever happen to Putin and Russia. But they did very well under Obama.

1. Obama dismantled the missile defense shield in Poland and today Trump is rebuilding them.

2. The Trump energy policies have been devastating to the Russian economy. Poland used to get all its natural gas from Russia now they buy it all from the U.S., from a deal worked out by Energy Secretary Rick Perry. If they do the same with Germany Putin’s head will end up on a spike.

3. While Obama let Putin annex Crimea, Trumps actions in Syria and concerning Iran were a humiliating slap in the face to Putin.

4. Trump is giving lethal aid to Ukraine to defend against Russia, Obama did give money but refused any type of weapons.
 
Casca XV said:
Oh, I looked on your link. It proves my point. It doesn't defend Obama and Hillary from charges of stupidity and corruption it only enhances them.

Just take the "L" you lost on this one.
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WTF.

Uranium discussions on the mining level?

Uranium is worthless until it is refined.

To make weapons grade materials takes lots of work, time, equipment and money.

This diversion has nothing to do with the issue of the President promised a foreign leader something that resulted in a whistle blower reporting it as a national security problem

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Casca XV said:
Not producing enough Uranium domestically for our own needs is a weakness. Giving Putin control over 20% of what we do produce makes us weaker in this area. There was no benefit to the US in this deal. Both the Obama's and the Clintons entered political office poor and left rich, far richer than book deals can account for.
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Uranium is a world traded commodity we use to generate electricity and can be mined more cheaply in other countries that can't wait to sell it to us. That does not make us weak. There was no loss to the U.S. either since the mine was already Canadian owned.
 
iguanaman said:
That's what happens when a cover-up is exposed, it implies that there is something worth covering up. You do understand that the DNI director is breaking the law for some reason and the Inspector General is testifying to Congress about the matter being withheld. It's not normal even under Trump.
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There is literally no evidence to argue for anything. All we have is baseless speculation.

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iguanaman said:
Uranium is a world traded commodity we use to generate electricity and can be mined more cheaply in other countries that can't wait to sell it to us. That does not make us weak. There was no loss to the U.S. either since the mine was already Canadian owned.
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Than why was Obama and Hillary involved?
 
Casca XV said:
Trump as President Is the worst thing to ever happen to Putin and Russia. But they did very well under Obama.

1. Obama dismantled the missile defense shield in Poland and today Trump is rebuilding them.

2. The Trump energy policies have been devastating to the Russian economy. Poland used to get all its natural gas from Russia now they buy it all from the U.S., from a deal worked out by Energy Secretary Rick Perry. If they do the same with Germany Putin’s head will end up on a spike.

3. While Obama let Putin annex Crimea, Trumps actions in Syria and concerning Iran were a humiliating slap in the face to Putin.

4. Trump is giving lethal aid to Ukraine to defend against Russia, Obama did give money but refused any type of weapons.
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Obama put stiff and painful sanctions on Russia for annexing Crimea, Trump campaigned on removing them and tried to do just that. It was not until Congress tied his hands that he gave that up. Trump is buying billions worth of Russian crude every month while we export out own oil. Trump bowed out of the Syrian peace talks leaving Putin in charge. Everything Trump does internationally is cleared thru Putin and that is why he never loses.....America loses instead. It's not a coincidence.
 
poweRob said:
Well congress would have that if this administration followed the law of turning it over within 7 days and didn't thwart congress from receiving the accusation from the whistleblower. So I guess you need to ask your criminal messiah.
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Oh, you acted like that was I could do.
 
HAL9000 said:
No, I'm serious, how much money did the United States deliver to Iran under cover of night?
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You can look that up for yourself. Or, just go ahead and say what you are trying to get at, without wasting my time.
 
Casca XV said:
Than why was Obama and Hillary involved?
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Because the sale was subject to approval by the Govt.

But the deal had to be approved by multiple U.S. agencies first, including the Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States, or CFIUS — on which the U.S. Secretary of State sits.

The committee approved the proposal, and in 2013, Russia assumed 100 percent ownership of the company and renamed it Uranium One Holding.

The deal, however, was not Clinton’s to approve alone. The CFIUS panel also includes the attorney general and the secretaries of the Treasury, Defense, Commerce, Energy and Homeland Security, as well as the heads of the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative and the Office of Science and Technology Policy.

The claim makes it seem like Clinton had the power of vetoing or approving the deal, which she did not.
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Complex tale involving Hillary Clinton, uranium and Russia resurfaces | PolitiFact Facebook fact-checks
 
poweRob said:
*To mods... story is an MSN link but a repost by them of a Washington Post story. I'm hoping this can be a way Washington Post's paywall won't block the story.

Trump’s communications with foreign leader are part of whistleblower complaint that spurred standoff between spy chief and Congress, former officials say


The whistleblower complaint that has triggered a tense showdown between the U.S. intelligence community and Congress involves President Trump’s communications with a foreign leader, according to two former U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

Trump’s interaction with the foreign leader included a “promise” that was regarded as so troubling that it prompted an official in the U.S. intelligence community to file a formal whistleblower complaint with the inspector general for the intelligence community, said the officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.​


The speculation is that trump promised Putin something about the spy we just heard about that had to be extracted from Russia.

There is also speculation of it being about it being a promise of removing money that helped Europe push back on Russia's incursion into Ukraine.

Now there is executive obstruction... yet again... this time to break the law that this whistleblower's claim be handed over to congress within 7 days.

"Corruption in the flesh" indeed.
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Yeah, he promised Putin more flexibility after the election. . . . Oops, wrong President. :cool:
 
Not that I'm even remotely surprised anymore, but Republicans aren't the least bit curious what promise Trump made to a foreign leader.
 
Cardinal said:
Prediction: we will learn something horrible. Conservatives will be aghast and his approval will drop from 43% to 41%. Perhaps even 40%. After a few days, Conservatives will accept the new baseline and his approval will go back up to 43%. And I know this because it's what happens every single time.
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http://freedomslighthouse.net/2019/09/18/trump-approval-rating-at-51-91819/

In 30 years, I have seen exactly one poll that when compared to election results error in favor of the GOP.

Today the media vitriol toward President Trump is 10 time worse than anyone ever in the GOP. Yet at the same time they are liked and trusted less than ever.

Take any poll about the GOP especially Trump, add to the positive approval and it will be more accurate. The only mystery or question is how much to add.

Take any poll about a Democrat, subtract from the positive approval and it will be more accurate. The only mystery or question is how much to subtract.
 
Cardinal said:
Prediction: we will learn something horrible. Conservatives will be aghast and his approval will drop from 43% to 41%. Perhaps even 40%. After a few days, Conservatives will accept the new baseline and his approval will go back up to 43%. And I know this because it's what happens every single time.
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http://freedomslighthouse.net/2019/09/18/trump-approval-rating-at-51-91819/

In 30 years, I have seen exactly one poll that when compared to election results error in favor of the GOP.

Today the media vitriol toward President Trump is 10 time worse than anyone ever in the GOP. Yet at the same time they are liked and trusted less than ever.

Take any poll about the GOP especially Trump, add to the positive approval and it will be more accurate. The only mystery or question is how much to add.

Take any poll about a Democrat, subtract from the positive approval and it will be more accurate. The only mystery or question is how much to subtract.
 
Cardinal said:
Not that I'm even remotely surprised anymore, but Republicans aren't the least bit curious what promise Trump made to a foreign leader.
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Nothing to be curious about, the entire premise is proven B.S.
 
Mr. Invisible said:
There is literally no evidence to argue for anything. All we have is baseless speculation.

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There is evidence of a cover-up that was serious enough for the Inspector General to take over the case. It is not "baseless" to say that.
 
Glowpun said:
Look at Trump's behaviors-his erraticisms, inability to be focused among others, his waffling, his money history with Russia, the very nice things he has said about some dictators especially the Russian one, what would the conclusion be?

There is something in Trump's make-up that some people find disturbing.

As a side bar, the Saudis no doubt have become livid with Trump as he has been very quiet on the attacks of their oil fields.
The one semi-bright spot for him is the current state of the economy that he has attempted to take full credit for despite the fact the economy began its upturn in 2010-Obama's presidency.
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To sum up what you said...

No matter what Trump does, he's mentally ill.

No matter how good a job he does with the economy, Obama is responsible for it, but Obama is not responsible for his eight year malaise.

There's no evidence that Trump has done anything wrong with Russia/Putin, but he's guilty and should be impeached anyway.

Obama palling around with terrorists is just fine though. Throw Nadler in there too with the terrorists, since he's the one running the impeachment circus in Congress.
 
Casca XV said:
"Crap Story?" Oh you mean Trump Russia Collusion, hell no. I knew it was BS 3 years ago.
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Oh, look, you couldn't answer a question about your stupid conspiracy, so you changed the subject.

Pathetic
 
Casca XV said:
Than why was Obama and Hillary involved?
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Maybe because.....

I'm going to go out on a limb here, because he was the President of the most powerful country in the world and she was his secretary of state?

Maybe, could be, likely be.....
 
Dick Tornado said:
Maybe because.....

I'm going to go out on a limb here, because he was the President of the most powerful country in the world and she was his secretary of state?

Maybe, could be, likely be.....
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The Guy I was answering said the Uranium was owned by Canada.
 
Casca XV said:
Not answering.....Look around
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Yes, you aren't answering, you are dodging and putting up more crap.

You will never understand things that have been easily explained to you.
 
Bear in mind that the office of the intelligence community inspector general independently verified that the whistleblower's warning was credible and of urgent concern.

As one former CIA official said, "This is the equivalent of an imminent threat in the intelligence community. This is DEFCON 1."
 
beefheart said:
Yes, you aren't answering, you are dodging and putting up more crap.

You will never understand things that have been easily explained to you.
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Uranium One deal did happen as a result some of the uranium was illegally exported out of the country. CNN, Snope, etc. lying about it doesn't change those facts.
 
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