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    Re: 4-year-old boy shot dead allegedly by 5-year-old sibling while mom slept in another room: Police

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you didn't address my main point. You want to put the mother in jail? good thinking there.
    What does "want" have to do with it. People who break laws who are supposed to face consequences. I'm genuinely curious why you think this mother shouldn't serve time. I'm not fully buying the "think of the family" thing because some of us have already told you how that is an untenable and wildly subjective standard.

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    Re: 4-year-old boy shot dead allegedly by 5-year-old sibling while mom slept in another room: Police

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If losing a kid isn't going to deter people from doing stupid negligent things, nor will gun hating extremists trying to vent their hatred with stupid punitive laws.
    How is some random person somewhere losing a kid going to deter anyone other than the mother?

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    Re: 4-year-old boy shot dead allegedly by 5-year-old sibling while mom slept in another room: Police

    Quote Originally Posted by aociswundumho View Post
    Parents leave a 4 and a 5 year old alone with a loaded gun, and you blame the Second Amendment.
    The 2nd amendment doesn't say anywhere in its two sentences anything about securing a gun.

    Show me were it says that if you have a gun in the house that it can't be out.

    When does it:

    #1 Start to say where I can keep my gun

    #2 Describe that I have to secure it or lock it up.

    #3 Prevent me or tell me I can't have it loaded.

    Those sound like, some kind of guideline, parameter or what is the word, regulation.

    A GUN REGULATION !

    Wait let me check something, Yep it is a ****ing form of GUN REGULATION....

    Slippery Slope !

    Slippery Slope !


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    Re: 4-year-old boy shot dead allegedly by 5-year-old sibling while mom slept in another room: Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Bum View Post
    No, an adults failure to secure a firearm.
    Or a perfect crime of the murder of a child. We have no way of knowing what really happened.
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    Re: 4-year-old boy shot dead allegedly by 5-year-old sibling while mom slept in another room: Police

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Or a perfect crime of the murder of a child. We have no way of knowing what really happened.
    Good reason to let the law conduct thier investigation and make a final determination, yes?

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    Re: 4-year-old boy shot dead allegedly by 5-year-old sibling while mom slept in another room: Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I'm pretty sure that people have gotten completely off on similar shootings. Not worth my time to look it up but certainly much lesser sentences than 2nd degree.
    Most such crimes are never prosecuted at all.

    The national review found that about half of those deaths led to a criminal charge, usually against adults who police and prosecutors say should have watched the children more closely or secured their guns more carefully. The rest of the time, officials decided the grown-ups had broken no laws, or perhaps had simply suffered enough. In many cases, there was little to distinguish those deaths that led to a criminal charge from those that did not.
    A gunshot and a child is dead: Should anyone be punished? - The Morning Call
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    Re: 4-year-old boy shot dead allegedly by 5-year-old sibling while mom slept in another room: Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Nobody is saying that they have to have guns to defend themselves from the EPA... 4-year-old boy shot dead allegedly by 5-year-old sibling while mom slept in another room: Police
    Those who pay attention are:

    EPA spends millions on military-style weapons, watchdog group reports - Washington Times

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    Re: 4-year-old boy shot dead allegedly by 5-year-old sibling while mom slept in another room: Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Nobody is saying that they have to have guns to defend themselves from the EPA... 4-year-old boy shot dead allegedly by 5-year-old sibling while mom slept in another room: Police
    Here are some more agencies:

    IRS Has 4,500 Guns, 5 Million Rounds Ammunition: Paying Taxes?

    Why Are Federal Bureaucrats Buying Guns And Ammo? $158 Million Spent By Non-Military Agencies

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    Re: 4-year-old boy shot dead allegedly by 5-year-old sibling while mom slept in another room: Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Eriech View Post
    Those who pay attention are:

    EPA spends millions on military-style weapons, watchdog group reports - Washington Times

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    Re: 4-year-old boy shot dead allegedly by 5-year-old sibling while mom slept in another room: Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarab View Post
    How is some random person somewhere losing a kid going to deter anyone other than the mother?
    think about it some more
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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