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Democratic presidential candidates want Kavanaugh impeached after newly surfaced sexual misconduct a

NeverTrump said:
Why are you acting like calling for his impeachment will make the Democrats lose? They are already in impeachment talks against the President. Trump is defending Kavanaugh now. If the impeachment process fails, or doesn't materialize people will forget about it in a week.
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Every action they take that that looks to be purely partisan will only serve to energize Trump's base, and when the actions fail because Mitch McConnell is the SML all you will have is failure and it will in turn hurt D turnout.
 
Cardinal said:
Democrats have been allowing Republicans to control the narrative for forty years. As Dr. Phil might say, "How's that been working out for us?"
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Until you get rid of Mitch McConnell, calling for Kavanaugh to be impeached is worthless and makes the Ds look petty.
 
Airyaman said:
Every action they take that that looks to be purely partisan will only serve to energize Trump's base, and when the actions fail because Mitch McConnell is the SML all you will have is failure and it will in turn hurt D turnout.
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You know what also hurts turnout? Not doing anything and letting things happen.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
You know what also hurts turnout? Not doing anything and letting things happen.
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Yeah, and when it fails, then what? Egg on everyone's faces.

Get some real evidence first.
 
Airyaman said:
Until you get rid of Mitch McConnell, calling for Kavanaugh to be impeached is worthless and makes the Ds look petty.
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So Democrats shouldn’t take a position because McConnell is twisting the senate’s purpose to put party interests over the well being of our government institutions.
 
Airyaman said:
Until you get rid of Mitch McConnell, calling for Kavanaugh to be impeached is worthless and makes the Ds look petty.
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I don't think anybody here really thinks (at least I hope they don't) that Kavanaugh can be impeached now. The point is that his lifetime status on the Supreme Court is no longer a reasonable assumption. His career shelf life now has an expiration date that is different from his biological life span.

And considering the numerous, serious problems with him, as laid out in post 24, calling for him to impeached isn't "petty" but rather a demonstration of moral fortitude and moral clarity. Trying to *****foot around the brittle feelings of Republicans is a time-honored Democratic tradition, and that's played out horribly for us for forty years. That practice has allowed them to dominate all matters of policy for decades.

It's time to state our own narrative and not be afraid of how the most irrational people in the far right might take it.
 
Cardinal said:
It's not going to happen right away, obviously. But the notion that his position is lifetime should definitely not be assumed to be true any longer.
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Embrace it. It's lifetime, and nothing you folks can dream up will change it.
 
smallvoice said:
Embrace it. It's lifetime, and nothing you folks can dream up will change it.
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Impeachment is only one solution. The other is of course adding additional seats to eliminate the value of Kavanaugh's position.
 
Dems rudderless desperate and fearful Trump re-election is closer in rear view mirror than expected.
 
Cardinal said:
Impeachment is only one solution. The other is of course adding additional seats to eliminate the value of Kavanaugh's position.
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And neither of those will happen either. You heard it here first, please credit me.
 
Airyaman said:
Every action they take that that looks to be purely partisan will only serve to energize Trump's base, and when the actions fail because Mitch McConnell is the SML all you will have is failure and it will in turn hurt D turnout.
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Ah, but in a country with more Dems than Repubs, this is a rallying cry - not a plan of action.

Just as this call for impeachment will consolidate Trump's base, it will also rally the Dem base. The question essentially is one of who's base will be motivated the most? Because I see few crossovers. IMO, the easiest votes to be found will be via base motivation, not via appeals to the other side.
 
smallvoice said:
And neither of those will happen either. You heard it here first, please credit me.
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You're assuming that Democrats never have a majority again. That's not a smart assumption.
 
smallvoice said:
And neither of those will happen either. You heard it here first, please credit me.
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Impeachment is not expected to occur (though I personally would love to see it). But rather, this is to further motivate those 2016 cross-over and/or non-voting white suburban women to vote against Trump, continuing the process that gave the Dems 42 House seats in 2018.
 
Chomsky said:
Ah, but in a country with more Dems than Repubs, this is a rallying cry - not a plan of action.

Just as this call for impeachment will consolidate Trump's base, it will also rally the Dem base. The question essentially is one of who's base will be motivated the most? Because I see few crossovers. IMO, the easiest votes to be found will be via base motivation, not via appeals to the other side.
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I'm seeing NeverTrumpers who were looking at voting for a D to get rid of Trump coming to Kavanaugh's defense right now. There might not be a whole lot of them out there, but you'll lose them if an impeachment of Kavanaugh is pushed without more solid evidence.
 
smallvoice said:
That's irrelevant, and you should know that.
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Okay, so when they hold the majority again, what mechanism prevents democrats from impeaching judges or adding court seats?
 
Airyaman said:
I'm seeing NeverTrumpers who were looking at voting for a D to get rid of Trump coming to Kavanaugh's defense right now. There might not be a whole lot of them out there, but you'll lose them if an impeachment of Kavanaugh is pushed without more solid evidence.
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Fair enough, I can respect that opinion.

I must admit I too am uneasy with this, in general terms. Very uneasy with it. But in Kavanaugh's case, it might be warranted.
 
trixare4kids said:
Would you take the time to explain to us where he's going?

I'll wait.
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You'll wait forever. Kavanaugh's going nowhere. But the Dems are hoping to motivate their base.
 
Airyaman said:
Every action they take that that looks to be purely partisan will only serve to energize Trump's base, and when the actions fail because Mitch McConnell is the SML all you will have is failure and it will in turn hurt D turnout.
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Political memory is very short... Attention spans are shorter...
 
Airyaman said:
Very dumb to call for his impeachment over stories from the media. The Democrats are going to blow this one and lose to Trump. He's bad enough as it is but four years of lame duck Trump?

Idiots.
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Hats off to you for your political awareness.
 
Roadvirus said:
So much for "Innocent until proven guilty"
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Yes, this thread should be titled, "Democrat Candidates Vow to Break Oath of Office if Elected."
 
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