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California bans private prisons – including Ice detention centers

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This is a trend I totally approve of. Private prisons are too subject to abuse and corruption.

California bans private prisons – including Ice detention centers | US news | The Guardian

The private prison industry is set to be upended after California lawmakers passed a bill on Wednesday banning the facilities from operating in the state. The move will probably also close down four large immigration detention facilities that can hold up to 4,500 people at a time.

The legislation is being hailed as a major victory for criminal justice reform because it removes the profit motive from incarceration. It also marks a dramatic departure from California’s past, when private prisons were relied on to reduce crowding in state-run facilities.

Private prison companies used to view California as one of their fastest-growing markets. As recently as 2016, private prisons locked up approximately 7,000 Californians, about 5% of the state’s total prison population, according to the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics. But in recent years, thousands of inmates have been transferred from private prisons back into state-run facilities. As of June, private prisons held 2,222 of California’s total inmate population.
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Bravo for the new law.

And I like that they know they have to be vigilant to how the private prison industry is likely to try to thwart the law to keep making profit on human warehousing.
 
Congrats...now California is on the hook for paying unions and pensions.And when its overcrowded you can just release rapists and murderers.
 
As Gabriel Heatter used to say in the Thirties - "there is good news tonight".
 
Good. Private businesses have no place in government law enforcement the likes private prisons have become.
 
All good news... :applaud
 
I certainly don't like the idea of private prisons.

The problem is that the CA prison unions are also profit minded, and they soak the state for a LOT of money at the state and inmate's expense, and leverage their political power to serve themselves. They have such a shortage of capacity that judges have already ordered the mass release of prisoners multiple times, and the legislature has reduced the standards for jail time and what constitutes violent crime. This is in large part because our guards cost significantly more that they did just a few years ago, while the overall prison budget is flat.

This change will exacerbate that problem, as well as creating more justification for the ridiculous amount of overtime pay guards are already taking from the tax payers.

They need to follow this up with additional public prisons and guards, ideally getting those costs under better control, but they are far more likely to just set even more prisoners free early, and resist even more prosecutions, further emboldening criminals in the region.
 
RAMOSS said:
This is a trend I totally approve of. Private prisons are too subject to abuse and corruption.

California bans private prisons – including Ice detention centers | US news | The Guardian
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NOBODY WHO SUPPORTS PRIVATELY RUN FOR PROFIT IMMIGRANT DETENTION can possibly claim that they want to stop illegal immigration, because illegal immigration is their bread and butter.
If anything, if you own or own majority amounts of stock in for profit private prisons, you want as much crime as possible because each and every warm body owned by a criminal = $$$ for you.
If they're in the business of detaining illegals, each and every illegal alien = $$$ for you.

Stopping the flow of illegals = $$$...the end of the dollars, the end of the money train.
 
VanceMack said:
Congrats...now California is on the hook for paying unions and pensions.And when its overcrowded you can just release rapists and murderers.
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Who pays for it now?
 
Fledermaus said:
Congratulations.... An already overcrowded prison system is now hit again....

The lunatics are running the asylum.
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There will be closed prisons for sale in California which could be bought at a discount I expect. Not much use for prisons as office space
 
Roadvirus said:
Then I assume those who voted for this crapola won't mind if ICE ships illegals to their houses? I mean, these chuckleheads seem to think it's not okay to put them in jail, and ICE has to put them somewhere….
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Why, there are many alternatives to private prisons, such as retrofitting abandoned military bases. GPS monitoring systems
 
private prisons should be banned nationwide. this is a good start, though.
 
The whole negative "for profit prison" thing is a sham.

Prison guard unions are really strong in California and guess what? They hate the non-union for profit prisons. Prison guards in for profit prisons make about half what union prison guards do.

Prisoners don't care one way or the other.

At the end of the day, saving tax payers money is a good thing.
 
VanceMack said:
Congrats...now California is on the hook for paying unions and pensions.And when its overcrowded you can just release rapists and murderers.
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Retarded comment. Not surprised.

Punishment should not be private industry, no matter how anarchist one is.
 
RAMOSS said:
Why, there are many alternatives to private prisons, such as retrofitting abandoned military bases. GPS monitoring systems
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Put them in Liberals' houses. They seem to care about illegals a great deal...let them take care of them.
 
Dick Cheney must be pissed, he is heavily invested in private prisons.

I suspect now that weed is legal there is far more room in state prisons...
 
VanceMack said:
The corporate entity that employs the guards and assumes the risk.
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And realizes the profit. Seems kind of dodgy to have a corporate entity with a vested interest in your criminal justice system. An entity that would lose income, for example, if good behaviour entitled an inmate to early release. An entity that would see rehabilitation and trades training as counter-productive. An entity that might put labour costs ahead of quality personnel when recruiting.
Ever wonder if part of the reason the USA is the world's most incarcerated nation might be because prisons are a profitable industry? Just curious- would it be legal for a prison corporation to donate to a judge's election campaign?
 
Grand Mal said:
And realizes the profit. Seems kind of dodgy to have a corporate entity with a vested interest in your criminal justice system. An entity that would lose income, for example, if good behaviour entitled an inmate to early release. An entity that would see rehabilitation and trades training as counter-productive. An entity that might put labour costs ahead of quality personnel when recruiting.
Ever wonder if part of the reason the USA is the world's most incarcerated nation might be because prisons are a profitable industry? Just curious- would it be legal for a prison corporation to donate to a judge's election campaign?
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WHy do you believe states went to private prisons in the first place?

Dont get me wrong. I dont give the first **** who is doing the incarceration. But the states will suffer economically because of this decision and it wont change who is being prosecuted and for what.

And no...the reason the prisons are full of people is because people commit crimes. We have around 1.2 million violent criminal acts that occur every year. The only thing that really proves is that we need MORE people in prison not less.

Now...if you want to address the poverty that contributes to that...Im your huckleberry. But flies dont make **** stink.
 
RAMOSS said:
This is a trend I totally approve of. Private prisons are too subject to abuse and corruption.

California bans private prisons – including Ice detention centers | US news | The Guardian
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So basically political showboating.

CA private prisons hold a tiny, and ever tinier, number of inmates.

And Cali has open borders, >defiantly< (read more showboating for illegals & obeisance to plutocrat puppet masters) refuses to enforce immigration law, so the ICE center stuff just signals a boon for barely blue Nevada next door.

The real story here, however, is that California is moving closer to secession/partition, including internally.
 
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