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    Re: Homeowner shoots and kills home invader

    Quote Originally Posted by aociswundumho View Post
    Cumberland homeowner shoots, kills suspected burglar :: WRAL.com


    It's interesting how they use the sugar-coated term "suspected burglar" in the headline, but in the video she says what they really were, which is masked home invaders.
    Sugar coated?

    You honestly don'y know why it says "suspected?"

    You honestly think it's media bias?

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    Re: Homeowner shoots and kills home invader

    Quote Originally Posted by Renae View Post
    I won't wait to find out if you're just there "for stuff". Breaking into my home is nefarious intent enough, I WILL shoot without hesitation at an intruder. Don't care if he was just after the flat screen, I'm not risking waiting to find out if he's got other plans.
    I understand but I don't want to shoot an unarmed teenager over stuff. Stuff can be replaced. But I'm not criticizing your decision though.

    A few year back I had just got home to an empty home and I walked into the master bed room. Out of the bathroom walked a 6'2" ish 240lb ish male. I was unarmed. I thought it was fight or flight. Then I realize he was the mentally handicapped son of a couple than had just moved in across the alley. It scared the poop out of me though. And if I had been armed I might have shot him. My son had left the house without locking the back door and the handicapped man-child had wandered into my home looking for his sibling.
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    I know of a Grand Prairie Tx police officer that shot a guy that was climbing into his house through a bed room window. It was at night in the dark it was a male figure in a dark hoody. It was his own son. He killed him.
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    Re: Homeowner shoots and kills home invader

    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    He has AR 15?
    LOTS of people use AR's for home defense. A couple of years ago in Dallas a teenager shot and killed two home intruder with an AR. I'd prefer a pump shot gun but to each his own.
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    Re: Homeowner shoots and kills home invader

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealers Wheel View Post
    It sounds like you're saying people need guns to punish criminals. Is that what you meant?

    I dont know what he meant but I'll say that people don't own guns to punish criminals. ....they own guns to defend themselves and there property.

    Personally I have both a 12 quage riot shotgun loaded with buckshot and a Glock 20 witha fifteen round double stacked clip......and I can't seem to get a home invasion to save my life......
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    Re: Homeowner shoots and kills home invader

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    In this case it had nothing to do with punishment. One suspect actually shot the homeowner, who luckily survived and returned fire.
    It was about returning fire - - to prevent BEING KILLED by the suspect.

    If you're not a gun owner, and you're not keen on guns at all, I can respect that.
    But in return, you need to respect the fact that there are occasions WHERE a gun owner really doesn't have much choice but to return fire.
    If you have been shot, it's awfully difficult sometimes to retreat.
    But more importantly, one should never have to retreat in their own home or their own business.
    It is not only unreasonable, it's even more dangerous to you, the home or business owner, than returning fire, because people do get killed even while they are attempting to retreat.
    Why? Simple...the same reason a homeowner with a gun says "Don't move, or I'll shoot".
    A criminal oftentimes says the same exact thing..."Don't move, or I'll shoot.", and if you attempt to retreat, you're moving, and you will be shot.
    But all in all, demanding that a home or business owner retreat is just plain unreasonable.

    Homeowners and business owners who are being subjected to an attack are not thinking about punishing anybody, they're thinking about staying alive.
    To put it simply, if it comes down to "him or me", I am voting "ME" every single time, even if it means "HIM" has to die for being stupid enough to break into my home or business.
    If I could use a non-lethal magical stopping ray device that would incapacitate a person instantly from a distance, I would choose that instead.
    Such a magical invention does not exist.
    Poor substitutes which cannot guarantee results exist.
    Sorry, not good enough.

    I am not a gun nut with an extensive collection of firearms. I am not a member of the NRA or any other similar group, I don't subscribe to Guns and Ammo and I don't hang out in gun enthusiast forums. But I am a liberal gun owner. I have two main guns, a Makarov and a Taurus, both pistols, and I have a very old and decrepit (neglected) Winchester hunting rifle which is in need of a lot of TLC because it hasn't even been unpacked in almost thirty years and I wouldn't trust it in its present condition without a going-over by a gunsmith.

    To me, they are APPLIANCES, much like an alarm system or a deadbolt lock.
    But unlike deadbolt locks and alarm systems, I can trust these appliances to work every single time, and work well.
    And I hope I never have to find out how well they do work, but I will not hesitate at the moment of truth.
    And that's not from any desire to "punish" anybody, it's from simple self-preservation instinct, for me and my loved ones.
    Statistically speaking, you are more likely to use a gun to kill yourself or a loved one than a home invader. Some folks live in particularly dangerous areas or have particularly dangerous jobs, but outside of that, guns seem like a bad bet. IMO, for the average person, having a gun for personal safety is kind of like using lottery tickets as a retirement strategy.

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    Re: Homeowner shoots and kills home invader

    Quote Originally Posted by SLC View Post
    I understand but I don't want to shoot an unarmed teenager over stuff. Stuff can be replaced. But I'm not criticizing your decision though.

    A few year back I had just got home to an empty home and I walked into the master bed room. Out of the bathroom walked a 6'2" ish 240lb ish male. I was unarmed. I thought it was fight or flight. Then I realize he was the mentally handicapped son of a couple than had just moved in across the alley. It scared the poop out of me though. And if I had been armed I might have shot him. My son had left the house without locking the back door and the handicapped man-child had wandered into my home looking for his sibling.
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    I know of a Grand Prairie Tx police officer that shot a guy that was climbing into his house through a bed room window. It was at night in the dark it was a male figure in a dark hoody. It was his own son. He killed him.
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    Re: Homeowner shoots and kills home invader

    Quote Originally Posted by aociswundumho View Post
    If it was accurate, why did they call it a home invasion in the video?
    There's no "if" - it was a burglary.

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    Re: Homeowner shoots and kills home invader

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    According to the news.. the homeowner reported that the home invaders shot him first.. and he returned fire. So.. it sounds like they were there for much more than "burglary". as reported.
    Yeah, looks like there might be something missing from that story. But "burglary" is the correct legal term here. It just doesn't capture what might have been the purpose of that alleged burglary.

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    Re: Homeowner shoots and kills home invader

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky 1 View Post
    I dont know what he meant but I'll say that people don't own guns to punish criminals. ....they own guns to defend themselves and there property.

    Personally I have both a 12 gauge riot shotgun loaded with buckshot and a Glock 20 witha fifteen round double stacked clip......and I can't seem to get a home invasion to save my life......
    I use a Tarus SS Judge with 3 home defense .410 rounds and 2 Hornady 45 rounds. And I CC a Glock 27 with and extended magazine ( 2 extra rounds) with Hornady self defense rounds.
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    Re: Homeowner shoots and kills home invader

    Quote Originally Posted by Renae View Post
    Its always the heartstrings stories I don't buy.
    Well he was a city of Grand Prairie K- 9 officer about 20 years ago. .
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