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Israel accused of planting spying devices near White House

To illustrate how pathetic your obsession is.

It doesn't do that very well because I didn't say anything remotely resembling the eating of babies.

As for obsession, uh... please quote the post that made you conclude "obsession."
 
Everyone spies on everyone.

So you are saying Israel spies on the United States.

Only anti-semites say that without proof.
 
Not surprised, why would anyone be surprised?

(BTW, everyone spies on everyone else... enemies, neutral, or allies, makes no difference.)

Yeah but we give billions in money and military aid to Israel- and that needs to end.
 
Yeah but we give billions in money and military aid to Israel- and that needs to end.

You and I have agreed on that for a very long time now... and we've both been branded antisemitic for it.
 
The source is just quoting a radical Democratic blog - and that blog names no source whatsoever. To the contrary, the only people cited ONLY stay spy devices were found - not that Israel planted them - and the only people actually quoted deny it was Israel.

This is just another of endless lies by anti-Semitic Democratic propaganda outlets, nothing else. Literally NOTHING is offered to support the came whatsoever, other than Politico, that claims its source is unnamed hearsay gossip and speculation.

We know WHY the corporate super rich so hate Jews - and thus use all their propaganda outlets to incessantly push for another holocaust. There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. They have more money for the super rich to get. The Democratic Party is just a branch of the the super rich corporate fascists.
The Guardian is quoting Politico. Politico a radical Democratic blog -- who knew?

If Bibi needed an answer, he could just call Jared.
 
The source is just quoting a radical Democratic blog - and that blog names no source whatsoever. To the contrary, the only people cited ONLY stay spy devices were found - not that Israel planted them - and the only people actually quoted deny it was Israel.

This is just another of endless lies by anti-Semitic Democratic propaganda outlets, nothing else. Literally NOTHING is offered to support the came whatsoever, other than Politico, that claims its source is unnamed hearsay gossip and speculation.

We know WHY the corporate super rich so hate Jews - and thus use all their propaganda outlets to incessantly push for another holocaust. There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. They have more money for the super rich to get. The Democratic Party is just a branch of the the super rich corporate fascists.

Is the BBC also a anti-semitic blog?

Netanyahu denies Politico report Israel spying on the White House - BBC News
 
Israel accused of planting spying devices near White House | World news | The Guardian

Israel is likely to have planted mobile phone spying devices near the White House and other sensitive locations in the US capital over the past two years, according to a report from Politico that cited three former US officials.

The miniature surveillance devices mimic telecommunications towers to gather information, including the contents of phone calls. The US government concluded Israeli operatives were most likely to have put them in place to spy on Donald Trump and his associates, the news website reported.
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These 'black box' devices called Stingrays have been found the the Washington, D.C. area for several years, their source & purpose unknown. Now we get a glimpse into what our 'friends' are up to: listening to Trump & others as they have lengthy chats on their mobile devices.

See Stingray phone tracker - Wikipedia

The Guardian - Wikipedia

Here's a link to the original article in Politico: Israel accused of planting mysterious spy devices near the White House - POLITICO

Israel accused of planting mysterious spy devices near the White House
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The U.S. government concluded within the past two years that Israel was most likely behind the placement of cellphone surveillance devices that were found near the White House and other sensitive locations around Washington, according to three former senior U.S. officials with knowledge of the matter.

But unlike most other occasions when flagrant incidents of foreign spying have been discovered on American soil, the Trump administration did not rebuke the Israeli government, and there were no consequences for Israel’s behavior, one of the former officials said.

Everyone spies on everyone. It's the way it's always been. We've "spied" on Israel as well. No one wants to be the last to know when something catastrophic goes down - a scenario that is much more likely under this horrendously unqualified administration.
 
What is anti-Semitic is reporting the claim as fact, when exactly NOTHING supports the claim whatsoever other than Politico says so. Is Politico an intelligence agency? No. It is a Democratic hack blog, nothing else. What is "incredibly stupid statement, even for you" is ranting against Israel based upon nothing but a Democratic blog undocumented anti-Semitic attacks against Israel.

Do you realize just how worthless this proves WaPo is as a source? This is not something WaPol investigated at all. Rather, this is WaPo quoting Politico's blog as proof. But does Politico offer ANY proof? No, exactly NONE other than asserting hearsay from a no-name person. So to attack Israel, WaPo cites a Democratic blog that claims its proof upon unverified and possibly multiple levels of hearsay anti-Semitic and anti-Israel attacks - ie NOTHING to back up the claim.

But then, what do you care about facts anyway?

What about the articles is anti-Semitic? Some specific language or just their existence?
 
The Stingray news is not new: DC'''s Stingray Mess Won'''t Get Cleaned Up | WIRED

DC's Stingray Mess Won't Get Cleaned Up (4/6/2018)

DHS this week confirmed that Washington, DC is littered with fake cell tower surveillance devices, but nothing will likely be done to fix it.

Last week, the Department of Homeland Security confirmed for the first time that it is aware of unauthorized cell-site simulators, the surveillance tools often called stingrays or IMSI Catchers, in various parts of Washington DC.

While it's not surprising that foreign intelligence groups or criminal actors would be cell-snooping in the nation's capital, the DHS statement is the first US government acknowledgement that sensitive political communications, not to mention those of anyone in DC, are at risk of interception by devices that are currently unaccounted for. In spite of this step, though, observers find it unlikely that any group will move to defuse the threat in the foreseeable future.
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It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes or the FBI to go get Harris' Communications sales records as to where these devices were sold & shipped. Does anyone care?
 
And they have been caught spying on us before -- regardless. OTOH we can't stand on higher moral ground. We got caught spying on Germany. Everybody spies on everybody -- even allies.

That said Mossad has been caught assassinating people wherever they feel they are justified just like Russia. That takes it a step farther.


Everyone spies on everyone.

Isn't that what I just said? Is there an echo in here?
 
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Planting listening devices in the White House? Way too much effort. If Israel wanted insight into Trump's mind, all they'd need is a twitter account.
 
Planting listening devices in the White House? Way too much effort. If Israel wanted insight into Trump's mind, all they'd need is a twitter account.

The psychological intel gained from such a direct and immediate insight into the mind of the President of the United States must be invaluable to nations both friendly and hostile.
 
The psychological intel gained from such a direct and immediate insight into the mind of the President of the United States must be invaluable to nations both friendly and hostile.

And adversaries like V. Putin are laughing their donkeys off.
 
Did you start any threads on China putting spy chips in computers and keyboards they sold to US companies and even the USA military? Or is this just another of endless anti-Semitic new threads to hate on Israel?

There is much predictable on this forum. Most Democrats will rush to defend China, Iran and N. Korea, while continuously attacking the USA and Israel. Your message history and thread starts indicate you are such a Democrat.

Have you ever stayed on topic when replying to any thread?
 
Amazed this is not a bigger story...

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Did you start any threads on China putting spy chips in computers and keyboards they sold to US companies and even the USA military? Or is this just another of endless anti-Semitic new threads to hate on Israel?

There is much predictable on this forum. Most Democrats will rush to defend China, Iran and N. Korea, while continuously attacking the USA and Israel. Your message history and thread starts indicate you are such a Democrat.

You get a Silver Star for winning the whataboutism award in the very first response to the OP! :thumbs:
 
Definitely not the first time. The non-stop Democratic attacks on Israel are incessant. Any lie. The Democratic Party is the new Nazi party and makes no secret its goal is corporate fascism. The Democratic Party was founded on bigotry and racism and continues to be the home of racism and bigotry in this country. The Democratic Party rants its bigotries and racism every day, every night and has from day 1 with Andrew Jackson.

Your easily triggered. Why all the hate? It's going to choke the life out of ya. I live in one the bluest zip code in the country and I can tell you , you got the dems all wrong, so your stressed for nothing...lol....you guy you.
 
Israel accused of planting spying devices near White House | World news | The Guardian

Israel is likely to have planted mobile phone spying devices near the White House and other sensitive locations in the US capital over the past two years, according to a report from Politico that cited three former US officials.

The miniature surveillance devices mimic telecommunications towers to gather information, including the contents of phone calls. The US government concluded Israeli operatives were most likely to have put them in place to spy on Donald Trump and his associates, the news website reported.


But unlike most other occasions when flagrant incidents of foreign spying have been discovered on American soil, the Trump administration did not rebuke the Israeli government, and there were no consequences for Israel’s behavior, one of the former officials said.

This is just speculation. Why is nobody talking about what is actually happening?

From The Guardian Sept 10, 2019 comes this:

"The Israeli prime minister said on Tuesday that he planned to make the move, which would permanently seize up to one-third of the West Bank, after the election next week and hinted it may have been approved by Washington.

“I am waiting to do this in maximum coordination with [Donald] Trump,” he said in a speech broadcast live on Israeli television."


This act would be illegal; theft from the Palestinians and nobody is speaking out against it.
 
More stuff on how wide spread Stingray-type cell phone surveillance is becoming:

Fake Cell Towers Allow the NSA and Police to Keep Track of You

FAKE CELL TOWERS ALLOW THE NSA AND POLICE TO KEEP TRACK OF YOU

The Internet is abuzz with reports of mysterious devices sprinkled across America—many of them on military bases—that connect to your phone by mimicking cell phone towers and sucking up your data. There is little public information about these devices, but they are the new favorite toy of government agencies of all stripes; everyone from the National Security Agency to local police forces are using them.

These fake towers, known as "interceptors," were discovered in July by users of the CryptoPhone500, one of the ultra-secure cell phones released after Edward Snowden's leaks about NSA snooping. The phone is essentially a Samsung Galaxy S3 customized with high-level encryption that costs around $3,500. While driving around the country, CryptoPhone users plotted on a map every time they connected to a nameless tower (standard towers run by wireless service providers like Verizon usually have names) and received an alert that the device had turned off their phone's encryption (allowing their messages to be read).
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Big Brother is watching you.
 
“He’s” been watching for some time ............
 
I'm fine with whatever Israel does in order that its existence is guaranteed.

It is the ONLY country in that region that is a democracy, where political opponents, women, Christians, gays, et al. are treated with respect.

That's all that matters to me.
 
Did you start any threads on China putting spy chips in computers and keyboards they sold to US companies and even the USA military?
Did you start a thread about Trump telling Americans to buy those Chinese devices after the spyware revelations came out?
 
I'm fine with whatever Israel does in order that its existence is guaranteed.
It IS the only country in that region that is a democracy, where political dissidents, women, Christians, gays, et al. are treated with respect.
That's all that matters to me.
Are you an American?
 
Isn't that what I just said? Is there an echo in here?

Sorry, I missed that. I promise you though, my post was my original thought. As much as I admire you, I won't plagiarize you!
 
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