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Trump approval drops by 6 points, majority say recession likely: POLL

With Obama, 42% could approve of him without needing to compromise a single principle.

To have 42% strongly support Trump requires about 20% suddenly not caring about things that they pretended to be outraged about when Obama did things which were only a shadow of the transgressions Trump is brazenly committing.

Did you not read the article?
They have about the same support at the same time.
So again you don't have facts to support yourself i just showed you facts
and all you can do is deny.
 
Do you know how to use a dictionary? Please look up the definition of the word MOST and then contrast it with ALL.

OK, so I am not deplorable like 'most.' In what way am I different?
 


And whenever it seems like we might be recovering from Trump's last body blow to the economy he winds up and delivers another. So even if the signs are just things to be aware of now, there's always Trump waiting in the wings to make things worse and then order the Fed to cover his ass.
 
LOL, yours sure is!

again nothing to refute the articlei posted.
you don't seem to know what you are talking about.

you should read the article i posted. it clearly shows that the democrats specifically Frank and Dodd were the major
culprits in not stopping the 2008 melt down.

these are all facts not history revisionism that you guys love to play in.
 
And whenever it seems like we might be recovering from Trump's last body blow to the economy he winds up and delivers another. So even if the signs are just things to be aware of now, there's always Trump waiting in the wings to make things worse and then order the Fed to cover his ass.

what recession headlines are nothing. only the facts that matter.
funny how you deny an article from one of the same sources that says
there is no recession.

myopic is myopic.

What body blow is that? the economy has been doing very well under trump.
this proves you don't know what you are talking about.
 
again nothing to refute the articlei posted.
you don't seem to know what you are talking about.

you should read the article i posted. it clearly shows that the democrats specifically Frank and Dodd were the major
culprits in not stopping the 2008 melt down.

these are all facts not history revisionism that you guys love to play in.
You have been involved in multiple debates on the housing crash in the Govt Econ forum, you had your ass handed to you every single time. For you to even try to accuse others of "revisionism" after all these years is the height of irony. All I would have to show, as I did back then, the rate of foreclosures of FM/FM mortgages. I can also point to B of A's $10B settlement to Fannie for just the damage done by Countrywide. When I look back at the time I wasted "debating" you and your ilk on this topic, especially when I see you "people" still trying to make the same stupid "arguments', I can only leave with the positive that it helped me understand the mess better. That.....is something you cannot say.
 
yet there are no signs of an economic recession. so I guess that is the new leftist attack angle. to talk the country into a recession.
wow hurt working people to hurt trump that is a new low.

Let's see:

  • GDP growth is down
  • Job expansion has slowed
  • The bond yield curve inverted
  • ISM manufacturing index dropped 10 points in a year and a half to 47.5
  • The consumer confidence index reading for August slumped to 92.1 from 98.4 the previous month
 
I have a difficult time believing there is still 38% approval.

Actually 42.9% using RCP averages which included the ABC poll.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval

Trump's approval has been very consistent from March 2018 through today being between 42-44%. Nothing seems to help or hinder his approval numbers. You take Obama during that same time frame March 2010 through 10 Sep 2011 he ranged from 41-51%. From Obama's first day in office through 10 Sep 2011 he ranged from 40-67%. Trump from his first day in office through 10 Sep 2019 he has ranged from 38-46%. Such a narrow range is unheard off and never has happened before with any president.

World events, policies, stances on issues effected Obama immensely. World events, policies, stances on issues doesn't seem to effect the approval of Trump hardly at all.
 
A quick check indicates that President of the United States of America is higher in approval rating in the polls than Mr. James Carter at the same points in their presidencies.

Now, that's really something to crow about, right?
 
You have been involved in multiple debates on the housing crash in the Govt Econ forum, you had your ass handed to you every single time. For you to even try to accuse others of "revisionism" after all these years is the height of irony. All I would have to show, as I did back then, the rate of foreclosures of FM/FM mortgages. I can also point to B of A's $10B settlement to Fannie for just the damage done by Countrywide. When I look back at the time I wasted "debating" you and your ilk on this topic, especially when I see you "people" still trying to make the same stupid "arguments', I can only leave with the positive that it helped me understand the mess better. That.....is something you cannot say.

Actually no i didn't.
The reason why is because i have facts you have nothing.

Who was Country Wide selling those mortgages to? Fannie and Freddie because all of the mortgages and the fact that they allowed lenders like country wide to continue
to make and sell those loans.

Fannie and Freddie were buying those loans because they said they would. Why do you think lenders like country wide were making them to begin with?
Countrywide defrauded Fannie and Freddie, jury rules

You once again prove you have no idea what you are talking about.

Fannie and Freddie were buying those country wide mortgages and then reselling them knowing that they were toxic to other investment banks and brokers as A+
rated mortgages.

when bush attempted to reign in this practice he was stopped by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd both saying that there was no issue with Freddie and Fannie.
yet they were leveraged like 400:1.

Barney Frank was sleeping with one of the high executives in Fannie or Freddie and Chris Dodd was their largest campaign contributor.
Both were in charge of the committee's that oversaw both institutions.

The only person that gets their ass handed to them is you and your constant ignoring of facts.
 
Actually 42.9% using RCP averages which included the ABC poll.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval

Trump's approval has been very consistent from March 2018 through today being between 42-44%. Nothing seems to help or hinder his approval numbers. You take Obama during that same time frame March 2010 through 10 Sep 2011 he ranged from 41-51%. From Obama's first day in office through 10 Sep 2011 he ranged from 40-67%. Trump from his first day in office through 10 Sep 2019 he has ranged from 38-46%. Such a narrow range is unheard off and never has happened before with any president.

World events, policies, stances on issues effected Obama immensely. World events, policies, stances on issues doesn't seem to effect the approval of Trump hardly at all.

Your posting facts again.
These people have proven time and time again they do not care about facts.
ignorance is not an issue ignorance can be solved by educating oneself.

ignorance by choice is the true issue because it doesn't matter how much information
you give them they still remain ignorant.
 
as much as i want the idiot clown to lose, i hope that it happens without a recession. i've already been through one Republican economic collapse as a working adult, and it was not fun.

Agreed 100%.
 
Did you not read the article?
They have about the same support at the same time.
So again you don't have facts to support yourself i just showed you facts
and all you can do is deny.

It's true that at this point in their presidency Obama and Trump had/have the same approval. The difference is that Obama's rose entering the 2012 election, perhaps because the economy was improving. Trump is entering 2020 with a weakening economy and appearing more and more unhinged.
 
Actually no i didn't.
Your argument is so stupid, you show that CW, the originator, committed the fraud....and yet, you still think you can pin this on FM/FM.

As I said, you and Fenton never learned anything.
 
Your posting facts again.
These people have proven time and time again they do not care about facts.
ignorance is not an issue ignorance can be solved by educating oneself.

ignorance by choice is the true issue because it doesn't matter how much information
you give them they still remain ignorant.

I'm a numbers guy, there are three types of polls when it comes to approval/disapproval. I keep track of these numbers in helping to determine what they may mean when election time arrive.

All Adults polls are giving Trump an average of 39% approval, but we know and history has shown that on average 55% of all adults vote.

Registered Voters polls which give Trump an average of 43% approval. History has shown roughly 65% of all registered voters vote.

Likely voters which are giving Trump an average of 47% approval. Around 80% of likely voters vote. Each has its purpose.

Want to know what America as a whole thinks or feels about Trump, go with all adults to get your accurate result. Want to know how just those most likely to go to the polls and vote feels about Trump, go with the likely voter polls.
 
All industrialized countries, the U.S. included, go through periodic recessions & depressions. Why should 2019-2020 be somehow exempt? The stock market is so high that it is an obvious bubble destined to burst. It's not a matter of 'if'. It's a matter of 'when'.
 
that is all leftist can do is to slander and insult people.

The mango madman is the one who started all the ****ing name calling. And you're a little smack talker yourself, so there's that.
 
It's true that at this point in their presidency Obama and Trump had/have the same approval. The difference is that Obama's rose entering the 2012 election, perhaps because the economy was improving. Trump is entering 2020 with a weakening economy and appearing more and more unhinged.

That is a really important difference. At this point, the nation was still struggling to get economic traction after the recession. Obama's numbers probably partially reflected that. Trump can't break 50% even with an economy which has been relatively good.

There are many other differences, including one that I posted earlier -- namely that Obama's approval actually had a foundation. He had done things that 40+% of America would reasonably approve of.

With Trump, the numbers are about half about spite. That was enough to get people to the polls when the other person on the ballot was Hillary. Obama was personally and historically inspiring. Trump is repulsive.

Obama lost votes from 2008 to 2012, but he had quite the cushion.

Trump barely squeaked out a win in 2016. He can't afford to lose even 1% of the vote he had in the three midwestern states which put him over the top. So what does he do? He starts a trade war that his midwestern voters are bearing the brunt of. He has lost more than 1%. So the question is whether he can get it back before November 2020. If the trade war hangs on much longer, I don't see how he can do it.
 
Why in the world would the democrats and left wing media want to predict a recession when the indicators don't say that. Anything to try to win an election.
 
Why in the world would the democrats and left wing media want to predict a recession when the indicators don't say that.

Anything to try to win an election.
Why answer your own question?

Democrats are grasping at straw is a windstorm. Anything that might get traction is being forwarded. It's an indication of how badly the Mueller probe blew up in their faces.
 
I think Trump's divisiveness is weighing on Americans. They're sick of it...
 
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