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Exclusive: US extracted top spy from inside Russia in 2017

marke said:
At least there are signs of life in the Trump White House, which is a refreshing change from the dark atmosphere of the past administration.
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Wow, your bar is so much lower for this administration than last. trump's first NSA is likely going to jail for lying about his collusion with Russia. Not one foreign policy success?

"Signs of life?" Wow.
 
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lurchadams said:
I respect your opinion, but that's all it is, my friend. People more knowledgeable that both you and me feel the agreement/treaty made in collaboration with our western allies was working.
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And people more knowledgeable that both you and me feel the agreement/treaty made in collaboration with our western allies was wasn't working. ;)
 
lurchadams said:
Wow, your bar is so much lower for this administration than last. trump's first NSA is likely going to jail for lying about his collusion with Russia. Not one foreign policy success?

"Signs of life?" Wow.
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If he goes to jail I'll buy you a dinner at Pappasito's !
 
EnigmaO01 said:
You're right he's not an asset. He's what they call in GRU lingo as a useful idiot.

полезный идиот
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Steele was a useful idiot that took Russian disinformation and put in a dossier the Dems that ate it up were useful idiots too. :lamo
 
lurchadams said:
Wow, your bar is so much lower for this administration than last. trump's first NSA is likely going to jail for lying about his collusion with Russia. Not one foreign policy success?

"Signs of life?" Wow.
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He didn't lie about collusion. There was no collusion.
 
SLC said:
Steele was a useful idiot that took Russian disinformation and put in a dossier the Dems that ate it up were useful idiots too. :lamo
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I think he eagerly took what was known to be purposeful disinformation.
 
SLC said:
And people more knowledgeable that both you and me feel the agreement/treaty made in collaboration with our western allies was wasn't working. ;)
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Really? Like who?
 
lurchadams said:
The bolded is a valid concern. trump can't resist dishing dirt to his Russian masters.
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I do have to admit that it could be slightly problematic and that discussions in the upper echelons of "Claque Trump" over whether:

  1. "All Russians are liars, all the time, and the Russian "asset" which we have believed all along is lying when he says that the Russians WERE attempting to influence the 2016 elections so that Mr. Trump's chances of winning were improved.";
  2. "All Russians are liars, all the time, and the Russian "asset" which we have believed all along is lying when he says that the Russians WERE NOT attempting to influence the 2016 elections so that Mr. Trump's chances of winning were improved.";
  3. Russian government insiders are never to be trusted - unless they are saying what we want to hear.";
  4. Russian governments are always to be trusted - especially if they are saying what we want to hear.";
  5. "The degree of credibility to place on what any Russian government insider says depends on how much it reflects what we want to hear.";
  6. "This person was a low level flunky and doesn't know what he is talking about as Mr. Putin says is the case."; or
  7. "Whatever 'The Leader' said about the situation last is absolutely 100% correct, regardless of what 'The Leader' said about the situation previously."

is the correct line to be taking.
 
SLC said:
It was such a great deal for America that congress never approved it. Lurch that whole thing was a farce.
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If Mr. Obama has managed to arrange a treaty that totally ended war, poverty, hunger, disease, homelessness, ignorance, bigotry, and crime, the "Republicans" (whatever that means) who controlled what happens in Congress would never have approved it (in fact, they'd never even have allowed it to come to a vote).
 
marke said:
At least there are signs of life in the Trump White House, which is a refreshing change from the dark atmosphere of the past administration.
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Did anyone else notice the "dog whistle"?
 
dixon01767 said:
He didn't lie about collusion. There was no collusion.
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Yeah, you're right. Roger stone new about the Wikileaks release in advance because he's psychic and the trump tower meeting was all about adoption <sarcasm>.
 
Doc91478 said:
Except for the fact that the decision to pull the agent was made during the previous administration and the exfil didn't happen until 2017. DJT had nothing to do with it.

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Quite right. Everyone knows that Mr. Trump was NOT the President of the United States of America when the previous decision of the Russian "asset" NOT to accept the US government's offer to "extract" them was reversed.

PS - You do know that the US government does NOT have the legal power to FORCE someone who is a citizen of another country to voluntarily leave that country, don't you? The most that the US government can do in that situation is to make that person an offer (generally including, free transportation, free relocation expenses for the person and their family, a new identity for the person and their family, free police protection for the person and their family, citizenship for the person and their family, and a large amount of cash on which the person does not have to pay taxes).
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Quite right. Everyone knows that Mr. Trump was NOT the President of the United States of America when the previous decision of the Russian "asset" NOT to accept the US government's offer to "extract" them was reversed.

PS - You do know that the US government does NOT have the legal power to FORCE someone who is a citizen of another country to voluntarily leave that country, don't you? The most that the US government can do in that situation is to make that person an offer (generally including, free transportation, free relocation expenses for the person and their family, a new identity for the person and their family, free police protection for the person and their family, citizenship for the person and their family, and a large amount of cash on which the person does not have to pay taxes).
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Holes poked in CNN report blaming Trump for alarm that led to extraction of Kremlin informant
Holes poked in CNN report blaming Trump for alarm that led to extraction of Kremlin informant
Holes poked in CNN report blaming Trump for alarm that led to extraction of Kremlin informant ... "Given NYT has now made details on Russian spy public, I can now … Hours after CNN reported Trump's handling of classified information was the inciting incident leading to this spy's extraction, a follow-up story from the New York Times cited sources who insisted media scrutiny alone is what jeopardized the safety of this source. (C.I.A. Informant Extracted From Russia Had Sent Secrets to U.S. for Decades - The New York Times)
 
SLC said:
Steele was a useful idiot that took Russian disinformation and put in a dossier the Dems that ate it up were useful idiots too. :lamo
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You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. The facts say otherwise no matter how many times this misrepresentation comes about.
 
Ahlevah said:
CNN reported an "exclusive" concerning the extraction of a CIA asset from Russia? If that's true, it would appear that CNN's lips are an order of magnitude larger than Trump's.
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News is always reported, it's the duty of the press, it's their job. The question is, why is it news?

Loose lips.
 
Doc91478 said:
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Holes poked in CNN report blaming Trump for alarm that led to extraction of Kremlin informant
Holes poked in CNN report blaming Trump for alarm that led to extraction of Kremlin informant
Holes poked in CNN report blaming Trump for alarm that led to extraction of Kremlin informant ... "Given NYT has now made details on Russian spy public, I can now … Hours after CNN reported Trump's handling of classified information was the inciting incident leading to this spy's extraction, a follow-up story from the New York Times cited sources who insisted media scrutiny alone is what jeopardized the safety of this source. (C.I.A. Informant Extracted From Russia Had Sent Secrets to U.S. for Decades - The New York Times)
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  1. When Mr. Trump WAS NOT the President of the United States of America an offer was made by the US intelligence community to extract Oleg Smolenkov.
    • That offer WAS NOT accepted;
  2. When Mr. Trump WAS the President of the United States of America an offer was made by the US intelligence community to extract Oleg Smolenkov.
    • That offer WAS accepted;
Can you tell the difference between Point 1. and Point 2. above?

Can you make any inference from the difference between Point 1. and Point 2. above?

Did you know that

It reported that the source had provided Washington with information for years and was instrumental in US intelligence agencies’ conclusion that Russia had interfered in the 2016 presidential election.[SOURCE]​

If Mr. Smolenkov had been supplying the US with information from inside the Russian government for years then either

  • his information is reliable AND the Russians did interfere in the 2016 presidential elections; or
  • his information is not reliable AND the Russians did not interfere in the 2016 presidential elections.

According to the gist of the claims from "Claque Trump" **T*H*E** **T*R*U*T*H** **I*S*** that:

  1. Mr. Smolenkov IS reliable; and
  2. The Russians DID NOT interfere in the 2016 elections (regardless of what the totally unreliable foreigners says happened);

I think we all remember what "Mom" used to say about having your cake and eating it too.
 
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