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6 MS-13 gang members, illegal immigrants involved in deadly Maryland stabbing, ICE says

SLC said:
They should be tried for murder punished then at the end of their punishment ICE should deport them. They should not get bail because they are flight risks.
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They should be able to apply for work visa's and given gainful employment when and if they are convicted and released.
 
Scarab said:
No, it's not what she proposes at all. Go check.
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"I think abolish ICE is a call to action on several levels. One is the literal interpretation of abolishing ICE, which I support and I've said, you know, on multiple occasions that I don't believe that an agency that systematically and repeatedly violates human rights and I don't think that agency can be reformed," she said (bolding is mine). "I think it has to be abolished and I think we need to figure out a way of doing things. But that new way of doing things is I think what we need to build, and that's also where the call to action is."

AOC Again Calls to Abolish ICE: It Can't Be Reformed

Do you even bother to look things up?
 
AOC doesn't want to stop at abolishing ICE, she wants to abolish the Department of Homeland Security. What's next, the Marines?

In a radio interview last week, Ocasio-Cortez called the formation of the agency a Bush-era mistake.

David Remnick, the host of the New Yorker Radio show, asked AOC whether or not she’d want to end the Department of Homeland Security.

“ICE is not under the (Department of Justice),” Ocasio-Cortez said. “It’s under the Department of Homeland Security. And so we have now—”

“Would you get rid of the Department of Homeland Security, too?” Remnick asked.

“I think so,” she said.

AOC: Why stop with ICE? Let's get rid of Homeland Security too.
 
nitroexpress said:
AOC doesn't want to stop at abolishing ICE, she wants to abolish the Department of Homeland Security. What's next, the Marines?

In a radio interview last week, Ocasio-Cortez called the formation of the agency a Bush-era mistake.

David Remnick, the host of the New Yorker Radio show, asked AOC whether or not she’d want to end the Department of Homeland Security.

“ICE is not under the (Department of Justice),” Ocasio-Cortez said. “It’s under the Department of Homeland Security. And so we have now—”

“Would you get rid of the Department of Homeland Security, too?” Remnick asked.

“I think so,” she said.

AOC: Why stop with ICE? Let's get rid of Homeland Security too.
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OH GAWD. When will the right-wing insanity ever end?
 
Phys251 said:
One death. Let me know when I'm supposed to get this worked up about one death when it's not someone I know. :yawn:
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It wasn't a White cop killing a Black man, so you don't care.
 
Roadvirus said:
It wasn't a White cop killing a Black man, so you don't care.
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Apparently a boy getting slashed to death doesn't move the needle. It's only one, yano.
 
SLC said:
6 MS-13 gang members, illegal immigrants involved in deadly Maryland stabbing, ICE says | Fox News


Six of the seven people charged in the stabbing death of a man in Maryland in July have been identified by federal officials as being part of the MS-13 gang and in the country illegally, according to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

The Baltimore County Police Department announced Tuesday that seven suspects, including a 16-year-old charged as an adult, were charged with killing 21-year-old Daniel Alejandro Alvarado Cuellar.

Cuellar's body was discovered July 31 in the grass outside an apartment building in the Townson area and had "multiple sharp-force injuries," officials said in a news release...........................

Of the seven suspects, six are in the U.S. illegally, the ICE spokeswoman added. Of the six illegal immigrant suspects, who were not named, five are Salvadoran and one is Mexican, ICE said.

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Yeah we should get rid of ICE so people like these nice folks can live in the United States. :roll:
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Too bad they weren't Taliban. The GOP would have rolled out the red carpet, invited them to a historical retreat, and let them lead the parade on 911 :roll:
 
Acadia said:
Fact is, 5 cops were assassinated in Dallas. How evil.

Oh, remember when Trump called MS-13 "animals". And the snowflakes freaked out?

Remember when someone called Michelle Obama an "ape in heels".

Sticks and stones, right? Triggered by words.

Yeah...
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I know cartoon socks would never trigger me. I bet it doesn't trigger cops either, or any grown ups.

That you compare it to racism is telling.
 
ecofarm said:
I know cartoon socks would never trigger me. I bet it doesn't trigger cops either, or any grown ups.

That you compare it to racism is telling.
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Telling of what? Do you freak out at the sight of a red baseball cap? At a Trump sign?
Your side is spinning and I don't think they'll survive another Trump win.
 
Acadia said:
Telling of what? Do you freak out at the sight of a red baseball cap? At a Trump sign?
Your side is spinning and I don't think they'll survive another Trump win.
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Telling of what?

What do you figure comparing cartoon socks worn by an athlete to racism tells?

Think hard. You'll get it.
 
ecofarm said:
Telling of what?

What do you figure comparing cartoon socks worn by an athlete to racism tells?

Think hard. You'll get it.
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Let me put it in TDS terms. It's dehumanizing. You know, how like Trump called MS-13 animals and your side had a meltdown and Pelosi called them sparks of divinity?
Think hard. You have probably a 30% chance of getting it.

ttfn!:2wave:
 
Acadia said:
Let me put it in TDS terms. It's dehumanizing. You know, how like Trump called MS-13 animals and your side had a meltdown and Pelosi called them sparks of divinity?
Think hard. You have probably a 30% chance of getting it.

ttfn!:2wave:
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Imagine being so demented that one thought Pelosi was talking about MS-13.
 
Bodhisattva said:
"I think abolish ICE is a call to action on several levels. One is the literal interpretation of abolishing ICE, which I support and I've said, you know, on multiple occasions that I don't believe that an agency that systematically and repeatedly violates human rights and I don't think that agency can be reformed," she said (bolding is mine). "I think it has to be abolished and I think we need to figure out a way of doing things. But that new way of doing things is I think what we need to build, and that's also where the call to action is."

AOC Again Calls to Abolish ICE: It Can't Be Reformed

Do you even bother to look things up?
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Did you even read what you posted?

"and I think we need to figure out a way of doing things."

So thank you for reposting a quote I already posted in this topic and reinforcing my point, even though you didn't do it on purpose and apparently didn't know what you were doing at all.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
The link is in my post #90. You must have seen it since you noted its source as your lame reply.
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Yeah I saw it. At first I thought it wasn't what you were referring to because it doesn't prove your claim until I realized you meant it.
 
AProudLefty said:
Yeah I saw it. At first I thought it wasn't what you were referring to because it doesn't prove your claim until I realized you meant it.
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It contains copies of (and links to?) the Twitter source material. If I did not mean it then I would not have posted it.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
It contains copies of (and links to?) the Twitter source material. If I did not mean it then I would not have posted it.
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I realize that now. The problem is her tweets don't correspond to your claim (unless I misunderstood your claim).
Your claim:
"See if you can find any plan other than stop enforcing current immigration law (as written) - or any mention of interior enforcement at all."
 
SLC said:
6 MS-13 gang members, illegal immigrants involved in deadly Maryland stabbing, ICE says | Fox News


Six of the seven people charged in the stabbing death of a man in Maryland in July have been identified by federal officials as being part of the MS-13 gang and in the country illegally, according to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

The Baltimore County Police Department announced Tuesday that seven suspects, including a 16-year-old charged as an adult, were charged with killing 21-year-old Daniel Alejandro Alvarado Cuellar.

Cuellar's body was discovered July 31 in the grass outside an apartment building in the Townson area and had "multiple sharp-force injuries," officials said in a news release...........................

Of the seven suspects, six are in the U.S. illegally, the ICE spokeswoman added. Of the six illegal immigrant suspects, who were not named, five are Salvadoran and one is Mexican, ICE said.

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Yeah we should get rid of ICE so people like these nice folks can live in the United States. :roll:
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Well, isn't that one of the stupidest things I've read here today.
Why do you even bother? If you're going to invent a strawman at least try to conjure up a worthy opponent instead of introducing a juvenile scenario into a room full of adults?
For one thing, if ICE is something you need why do you point to their failures? You want to support failure, make it even bigger so the failures can be bigger? Or maybe try to find more competent people who might actually make a difference.
Damn. The money you're throwing at the problem isn't working so throw more, is that your point?
Does any of this remind you of the "war on drugs" and the abysmal, laughable Keystone-Cops 'success' it's been? What a great return on investment! Let's pour more money into ICE, get more of that winning!
 
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Scarab said:
Did you even read what you posted?

"and I think we need to figure out a way of doing things."

So thank you for reposting a quote I already posted in this topic and reinforcing my point, even though you didn't do it on purpose and apparently didn't know what you were doing at all.
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You have to be joking... right? :lol:

She says, "I think it (ICE) has to be abolished and I think we need to figure out a way of doing things."

This means ABOLISH ICE and then figure out a way to do things (meaning immigration reform, etc)

She LITERALLY says that she wants to abolish ICE... something that you claimed that she did not say.

And if you already posted this and did not catch it and then I posted it clarifying and you did not get it... well. :shrug:
 
AProudLefty said:
I realize that now. The problem is her tweets don't correspond to your claim (unless I misunderstood your claim).
Your claim:
"See if you can find any plan other than stop enforcing current immigration law (as written) - or any mention of interior enforcement at all."
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You have yet to do so, thus I assume that is because you can't. The bottom line is that AOC has no plans to replace ICE - she wants to treat immigrants (since she does not believe that there are illegal immigrants) the same as any other US residents.
 
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