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Trump displays altered weather map showing Dorian could have hit Alabama

Jaspert linked to NOAA. What are you talking about?

Why is it so hard for you and others to admit Trump lied?
To provide a possible answer: A psychologically secure person admits fault and moves on. Trump is psychologically insecure. As such, admitting he was wrong undermines his security and therefore, doubles-down on being wrong. This has turned him during his lifetime into a habitual liar. This lying has benefited him over the years and thus encouraged the bad behavior.

However, I have no idea why his followers cannot see through this or accept the lies, as truth, without reflection. It is a tribalistic cult.
 
You got that backwards. Trump's insanity is what's driving opposition to Trump and fueling Democrats. By the way, who are these "leftists" you speak of? The Democratic Party was far more "left" generations ago. The fact the Republicans have moved into John Birch Society territory doesn't mean the Democrats moved left. Republicans have moved far-right.

By "leftist" I mean dummass democrat commie traitors to God Bless America.
 
Yes, and he accomplished this by lying, and cheating, and breaking the law, and saying mean-spirited things and by just generally being a punk and a thug and a bully.

And now we have white supremacists proudly displaying their banners in the street. We now have right-wing extremists sending mail bombs and committing mass murder by shooting up civilian population centers.

Congrats! Good job! Way to go! When you enter the pearly gates I'm sure God will give Trump a pat on the back!

Leftists have the right to participate in our political and legal system and you have an obligation to respect their participation in our system, and so does Trump.

What this mean is, it's not okay for the President to lie. It's not okay for you to lie on his behalf.

To black-hearted commie leftist democrats every white Christian American patriot is racist. The real racists in America are those who incessantly accuse innocent people of being wicked racists.
 
By "leftist" I mean dummass democrat commie traitors to God Bless America.

There is not a single Communist, in the Democratic Party, currently holding office. The most left-wing members of the Democratic Party could more accurately be described as Democratic Socialists, which is not the same as Communism, and not the same as Socialism (in the Karl Marx sense of the word).

The vast majority of the "left" are liberals or progressives, not communists. This is a fiction people like Hannity spread to scare Trump supporters into supporting a crook and a thief and a liar.

Half of the Democrats still describe themselves as either moderates or conservative.

Every single Democrat believes in the U.S. Constitution, adheres to the Rule of Law, and is loyal to the United States of America.

We can no longer say the same thing with regard to the Republican Party. The current members of Trump's Republican Party are willing to break the law and violate the Constitution to get what they want.

To black-hearted commie leftist democrats every white Christian American patriot is racist. The real racists in America are those who incessantly accuse innocent people of being wicked racists.

You need to accept the fact that soon the U.S. will no longer be a white majority country. Tough sh*t. Get on with your life. You need to accept the fact that people who do not believe Jesus Christ is their lord and savior have the same individual rights that you do, and have the same right to participate in the governance of their country, and the same right to help with the formulation of national policy.

And guess what my uneducated and hateful friend. All the gay people you hate? They get to participate too. Even if it bugs you.

If you cannot accept this, then you cannot participate. It's that simple.

Grow up. It's time to start learning to play with others.
 
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I am actually encouraged the left is wasting so much time on this.

They seem to think the President has time to create a bunch of powerpoints and maps. I doubt he is that skilled at powerpoint but possibly.

Is it better to know a hurricane might head your way or be kept in the dark?


Even weather.com had a storm track that crossed Alabama.

Took about a minute to find if one is curious about such things.

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Grow up. It's time to start learning to play with others.
I agree.

Unfortunately, We have seen how democrats act lately.


"A few days ago, I caught Trump's speech to the Building Trades Unions National Legislative Conference. In a nutshell, Trump vowed to fix the job-killing, out-of-control, crazy regulations harming businesses. Trump said, "One of my first acts as president was to stop one of the great sellouts of the American worker." Calling NAFTA a disaster, Trump said he took us out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership. The audience erupted with applause.

Trump is swiftly dismantling many of Obama's anti-America agenda items.

It dawned on me: this guy is simply implementing commonsense policies in the best interest of America and her citizens who elected him. So why is the American left responding with such unprecedented vitriol and bold, treasonous obstructionism? The simple answer is that leftists hate America and her biblical values. Therefore, when Trump came along vowing to make America great again, he ignited the leftists' hate, fear, and rage. Why such hate for one's own homeland?

Before you call me crazy, let us review.

During a leisurely Sunday stroll along a San Francisco pier with her dad, Kate Steinle was shot and killed by an illegal alien who had been deported five times but kept coming back to the sanctuary city. Kate's last words were "Help me, Dad."

Compassionately, Bill O'Reilly asked Congress to pass Kate's Law, which imposed a mandatory five-year federal prison sentence on deported illegals who keep coming back.

The American left, the city of San Francisco, Democrats, and fake news media said screw you to the Steinle family, and screw you, American people. Senate Democrats blocked Kate's Law. Why would the left so vehemently oppose this commonsense protection of American lives?

Even now, when Trump has vowed to cut funding to cities who refuse to comply with federal law, sanctuary city mayors are giving Trump and the American people the middle finger. Why?

The Fort Hood shooting, the Boston Marathon bombing, the San Bernardino shooting, and the Orlando nightclub massacre, to name a few, were Islamic terrorist attacks on innocent Americans. And yet in every instance, the Obama administration, with high praise from leftists, rushed to protect and defend Islam. Obama's DOJ even threatened to jail anyone caught speaking badly of Islam. Really, folks – why do leftists feel that American lives do not matter when the villains are Islamic?

Remember when leftists cheered Obama for allowing people from Ebola-infected countries into the U.S.? Finally, pressure from the American people forced Obama to invoke a commonsense travel ban. Still, leftists accused Americans of being racist SOBs for desiring to keep the deadly disease out of our country. Why?

For Americans who are not paying attention, do you know that leftists hate the song "God Bless the USA/Proud to Be an American" and even banned it in public schools? Leftists have made it illegal to say "God bless America" in public school. Leftists banned wearing American flag shirts to school, calling it racially insensitive. Incredibly, leftists deem Trump's desire to make America great "racist hate speech." What is wrong with these people? Why do they hate their and our country so much?"

"This continues to have me scratching my head. Celebs like Rosie O'Donnell, Kim Kardashian, and Madonna support Islam and trash Christianity. And yet if Islamic sharia law became the law of the land, none of them would be allowed to be who they are."

"Succinctly, here are other issues that confirm leftists' hatred for Americans. Leftists put untested illegals in public schools, infecting our kids with old eradicated diseases. Leftists advocate totally opening our borders to any and all who wish to come here to get on welfare. Leftists celebrate extreme environmental restrictions on America while giving the world a pass. Leftists approved of Obama gifting Iran, our enemy and a chief sponsor of terrorism, $150 billion. Anything beneficial to America or that portrays America in a good light is despised and shouted down by leftists.

My fellow Americans, I humbly ask: why?"



Leftists have been unhinged for quite some time. Perhaps Trumps greatest accomplishment is pulling back the facade of civility progressives, democrats, socialists, and others have presented while undermining the country. Who has rejected the american peaceful transfer of power tradition for years running?
 
By "leftist" I mean dummass democrat commie traitors to God Bless America.
That belief is just so absurd that it rightfully should be dismissed the way normal people dismiss loonies howling about Jesus on the subway.

But to entertain the idea, we have a president who thinks there is nothing wrong with a hostile foreign government helping a candidate for president, which is illegal, and who invited the Taliban to Camp David. Yet, Democrat Obama, who killed Bin Laden, is a "commie traitor."

Moreover, we have a Senate, controlled by Republicans, and they shield this president from any and all oversight but, according to you, they a the patriots and Democrats are the traitors.

Anyone who believes what you are espousing is suffering from a tribalism-induced collapse of morality and reason, which if left untreated could be fatal for your nation.
 
Even weather.com had a storm track that crossed Alabama.

Took about a minute to find if one is curious about such things.

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Nobody disputes the fact that Alabama is at some risk of being impacted a Hurricane or Tropical Storm during any given year.

I am actually encouraged the left is wasting so much time on this.

They seem to think the President has time to create a bunch of powerpoints and maps. I doubt he is that skilled at powerpoint but possibly.

Is it better to know a hurricane might head your way or be kept in the dark?

At the time of Trump's tweet, NOAA forecast only a small sliver of Alabama, representing no more than approximately 5 to 10% of the total land area of Alabama, having a 5 to 10% chance of being impacted by winds >= 39MPH but less than 58 MPH. Hurricane-force winds are >= 74 MPH. So when Trump tweeted Alabama was at risk of harm from the Hurricane he was simply wrong.

The President and NOAA/NWS have an obligation to provide the problem with the most accurate and up-to-date information possible.

Does this mean the NOAA/NWS should warn the public every time there is some insignificant risk of a harmful weather event? NO. Absolutely not. The NOAA/NWS when the risk warrants a warning. For example, what good is a warning about a weather event if the risk is 0.0001%? People would stop paying attention to the warnings.

But the fact that Trump was wrong is not a problem. Everyone makes mistakes.

The issue is he lied about it. He drew on the hurricane-path forecast as if it were the wind probability map forecast for >= 39 MPH and tried to trick people into thinking his previously incorrect statement was correct.

That is wrong. Lying is wrong. It's bad for the President to do something like this.

What he should say is, "I was wrong. I am sorry. I apologize. I shouldn't have tweeted that Alabama was at risk of being harmed. It was a mistake."

What Trump supporters should say is the following: "Trump made a mistake. I admit it. He lied. I admit that too. Presidents shouldn't lie to the American people."
 
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I am actually encouraged the left is wasting so much time on this.

They seem to think the President has time to create a bunch of powerpoints and maps. I doubt he is that skilled at powerpoint but possibly.

Is it better to know a hurricane might head your way or be kept in the dark?


Even weather.com had a storm track that crossed Alabama.

Took about a minute to find if one is curious about such things.

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... good to know we are back in 2018.

Lol, you can tell this guy isn't good at numbers.

Sent from the Matrioshka in the WH Christmas tree.
 
Actually by around the second tweet. It was pretty obvious that he was getting his jollies just trolling the left, as he usually does.

He even tweeted a picture explaining it.

I have to say I find absolutely nothing acceptable about the leader of the country trolling the people he represents. What that suggests is he can simply pick up his phone and throw out a random tweet with no more thought than some 12 year old sharing she just lost her virginity to the pool boy.

While past presidents were tossing around footballs, baseballs and even bowling, what pride it brings thinking of Trump sitting in a circle of school girls cackling how they just trolled the head cheerleader.

The bar has gone so low with this president we have to start digging a trench for it.
 
He drew on the hurricane-path forecast as if it were the wind probability map"

Please support that assertion. I have checked many films and have yet to see him draw maps with a sharpie or anything else on this subject.
 
... good to know we are back in 2018.

Lol, you can tell this guy isn't good at numbers.

Sent from the Matrioshka in the WH Christmas tree.

Thank you
 
I am actually encouraged the left is wasting so much time on this.

They seem to think the President has time to create a bunch of powerpoints and maps. I doubt he is that skilled at powerpoint but possibly.

Is it better to know a hurricane might head your way or be kept in the dark?


Even weather.com had a storm track that crossed Alabama.

Took about a minute to find if one is curious about such things.

View attachment 67263637

Say what?

It takes two seconds for Trump to pick up a sharpie and add Alabama to a map created by NOAA.

And I can promise you I'd not want to be told I'm in danger of a hurricane that's not going impact me.
 
I am actually encouraged the left is wasting so much time on this.

They seem to think the President has time to create a bunch of powerpoints and maps. I doubt he is that skilled at powerpoint but possibly.

Is it better to know a hurricane might head your way or be kept in the dark?

Even weather.com had a storm track that crossed Alabama.

Took about a minute to find if one is curious about such things.

This is where we're at a disadvantage. The defenses of Trump in this thread have been so bad that this one just MIGHT be serious, but the above is such nonsense that it's hard to believe it is. So in a rational world (i.e. not the Trump era) this is obviously satire. But here were are, unable to know....:confused:

You posted an article dated March 30, 2018, to back up claims made by Trump on Sept 1, 2019. The only map that matters/mattered was the one for the morning of Sept 1, 2019.
 
Please support that assertion. I have checked many films and have yet to see him draw maps with a sharpie or anything else on this subject.

It doesn't matter if Trump did the drawing or one of his bootlicking sycophants willing to sell their souls to get close to power did it. The buck stops with POTUS and that moron presented the sharpie-altered map in a planned press event from the Oval Office. That was no accident, no error, he didn't pick up the wrong map that was outdated by 3 or 4 days and STILL didn't back up his Sunday claim so someone added a hilarious sharpie alteration to make it so....

See who is holding it?

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I agree. Unfortunately, We have seen how democrats act lately.

The Democrats have been acting reasonably lately. That's why they are getting my vote.

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I am going to respond to this copied and pasted article point by point.

An article you were too lazy to write yourself.

"A few days ago, I caught Trump's speech to the Building Trades Unions National Legislative Conference. In a nutshell, Trump vowed to fix the job-killing, out-of-control, crazy regulations harming businesses. Trump said, "One of my first acts as president was to stop one of the great sellouts of the American worker." Calling NAFTA a disaster, Trump said he took us out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership. The audience erupted with applause. Trump is swiftly dismantling many of Obama's anti-America agenda items.

There is nothing anti-American about doing business with foreigners. There is nothing anti-American about not taxing imported goods. There is nothing anti-American about agreeing to not taxing the imported goods of a foreign country in exchange for their agreement not to tax the goods we export to their country.

The things you are referencing about NAFTA do not make any logical sense.

The U.S., its citizens, benefit from an open and free global business and trading environment where goods and services are freely exchanged without incumbrance. The U.S., and its citizens benefit more from open trade policies, than restrictive ones which impose unnecessary taxes on imported goods.

It dawned on me: this guy is simply implementing commonsense policies in the best interest of America and her citizens who elected him.

Trump doesn't understand economics and neither do his supporters.

So why is the American left responding with such unprecedented vitriol and bold, treasonous obstructionism? The simple answer is that leftists hate America and her biblical values. Therefore, when Trump came along vowing to make America great again, he ignited the leftists' hate, fear, and rage. Why such hate for one's own homeland?[/URL]

There are many people on the Left, who are Christians, who believe in biblical values, who do not like Trump or his policies. A great example is the way the Trump administration treats immigrants. It's not a biblical value to separate children from their parents at the border. It's not a biblical value to deport dying children who are receiving treatments for diseases which threaten their lives. It's not a biblical value to obstruct justice. it's not a biblical value to lie. It's not a biblical value to have sex with porn stars just after your wife gives birth to your child.

I think there is a difference in cultural values. And I think there is a minuscule portion of the Left who are just as extremist as the alt-right or the white supremacists Trump cannot condemn.
 
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Even now, when Trump has vowed to cut funding to cities who refuse to comply with federal law, sanctuary city mayors are giving Trump and the American people the middle finger. Why?

Local and state authorities have a point:

The kind of stuff that Trump wants to do will increase fears of deportation, possibly leading to family break-ups among illegal immigrants. If people aren't at risk of being deported they are far more more willing to report crimes, use health and social services, and enroll their children in school.

From the perspective of local and state authorities, Trump's proposed policies do not make much sense.

The Fort Hood shooting, the Boston Marathon bombing, the San Bernardino shooting, and the Orlando nightclub massacre, to name a few, were Islamic terrorist attacks on innocent Americans. And yet in every instance, the Obama administration, with high praise from leftists, rushed to protect and defend Islam. Obama's DOJ even threatened to jail anyone caught speaking badly of Islam. Really, folks – why do leftists feel that American lives do not matter when the villains are Islamic?

The truth is Islam is not a threat to the U.S. The threat to U.S. is in the form of radical Islam. It doesn't make any sense to wage war against a billion people if only a tiny, insignificant fraction are committing terrorist acts. It makes more sense to make friends with the ones who want to be our friends. Leave alone the ones who want to be left alone. And destroy the ones who mean us harm. It's just smart strategy.

Remember when leftists cheered Obama for allowing people from Ebola-infected countries into the U.S.? Finally, pressure from the American people forced Obama to invoke a commonsense travel ban. Still, leftists accused Americans of being racist SOBs for desiring to keep the deadly disease out of our country. Why?

There shouldn't be knee-jerk, emotional reactions to public health issues like this.

I don't blame Leftists for this controversy. It's crazy people like radio talk show hosts who think dark-skinned people are disease-ridden.

For Americans who are not paying attention, do you know that leftists hate the song "God Bless the USA/Proud to Be an American" and even banned it in public schools? Leftists have made it illegal to say "God bless America" in public school. Leftists banned wearing American flag shirts to school, calling it racially insensitive. Incredibly, leftists deem Trump's desire to make America great "racist hate speech." What is wrong with these people? Why do they hate their and our country so much?"

Having participated in Democratic Party meetings, rallies, and political campaigns, I can assure you this another Fox News inspired fever dream. The vast majority of the left, the people actually engaged in politics, and not engaging in cry-bully tactics of SJWs do not hold these views. They have families. They show up to work. They love their country. They are hard workers. Many of them attend church. And they have their own version of MAGA. They too have things they want to fix about the U.S. just as Trump supporters have things they want to fix about the U.S. And they too have political concerns, and wants, and needs, just as Trump supporters. And they too have a right to participate in the process just as Trump supporters do. They have a right to join organizations, unions, to negotiate their pay and benefits.

And guess what if you have this notion you think America should be white and Christian, that you can ONLY be a real American if you are White and Christian, and that's what it means to be "American", you deserve to be called a racist and a bigot and a religious extremist.

So this picture you have of the Left is entirely wrong.

It's like saying the Nazis marching in the Charlottesville, NC Nazi rally is representative of all Republicans.

Yes, some on the Left are crazy. It's true. Just like Steve King. The poster child of crazy Republicans.

"This continues to have me scratching my head. Celebs like Rosie O'Donnell, Kim Kardashian, and Madonna support Islam and trash Christianity. And yet if Islamic sharia law became the law of the land, none of them would be allowed to be who they are."

Nobody wants Sharia law. The few news items you've heard about deal with contractual and family issues such as divorce and so on. Our legal system allows individuals the freedom to enter into agreements in accordance with Islamic family/divorce law.

We must contrast these minor issues with an implementation of Sharia which directly violates our law or the U.S. Constitution. This something nobody on the Left agrees with. And the degree that people on the left do not understand Radical Islam or Sharia law and its incompatibility with Western (liberal democracies) political and legal systems is born out of ignorance, not hatred for the U.S.

This is another Fox News inspired fever dream.
 
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"Succinctly, here are other issues that confirm leftists' hatred for Americans. Leftists put untested illegals in public schools, infecting our kids with old eradicated diseases. Leftists advocate totally opening our borders to any and all who wish to come here to get on welfare. Leftists celebrate extreme environmental restrictions on America while giving the world a pass. Leftists approved of Obama gifting Iran, our enemy and a chief sponsor of terrorism, $150 billion. Anything beneficial to America or that portrays America in a good light is despised and shouted down by leftists.

This paragraph contains every right-wing authoritarian dog whistle Trump has ever used.

Immigrants are people too. They have individual rights too. Illegal immigrants aren't committing a horrible crime when they trespass. Trespass is not a horrible crime. It's a minor crime. Minor crimes require minor punishments. Not hellfire and brimstone.

Leftists have been unhinged for quite some time. Perhaps Trumps greatest accomplishment is pulling back the facade of civility progressives, democrats, socialists, and others have presented while undermining the country. Who has rejected the american peaceful transfer of power tradition for years running?

Leftists aren't unhinged. Democrats aren't unhinged. Progressives aren't unhinged. Democratic socialists aren't unhinged. Socialists in the Karl Marx sense do not exist in our body politic in any significant way.

Trump supporters are unhinged.

The reason why I know this is that when Trump lies, for example, about the weather by defacing an official forecast with a sharpie, Trump supporters believe Trump and think everyone else is lying. And they believe this even if you show the facts...as demonstrated by this thread.
 
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Please support that assertion. I have checked many films and have yet to see him draw maps with a sharpie or anything else on this subject.

We do not need videographic evidence to conclude that Trump drew on the map with a sharpie.

This idea you have that Jesus needs to come down from the sky to inform you Trump lied, is pathetic.

We can infer Trump drew on the map with other evidence. For instance, he loves sharpies. Also, he tweeted about it endlessly. Also, he threatened to fire people at NOAA who didn't toe the party line. Also, we have news reports from WH sources saying Trump did, in fact, draw on the map with a sharpie. So believe Trump if you want, but he's the on record as having lied or exaggerated over 10,000 times since he became President. One is a fool to believe Trump at this point.
 
The Democrats have been acting reasonably lately. That's why they are getting my vote.

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I am going to respond to this copied and pasted article point by point.

An article you were too lazy to write yourself.



There is nothing anti-American about doing business with foreigners. There is nothing anti-American about not taxing imported goods. There is nothing anti-American about agreeing to not taxing the imported goods of a foreign country in exchange for their agreement not to tax the goods we export to their country.

The things you are referencing about NAFTA do not make any logical sense.

The U.S., its citizens, benefit from an open and free global business and trading environment where goods and services are freely exchanged without incumbrance. The U.S., and its citizens benefit more from open trade policies, than restrictive ones which impose unnecessary taxes on imported goods.



Trump doesn't understand economics and neither do his supporters.



There are many people on the Left, who are Christians, who believe in biblical values, who do not like Trump or his policies. A great example is the way the Trump administration treats immigrants. It's not a biblical value to separate children from their parents at the border. It's not a biblical value to deport dying children who are receiving treatments for diseases which threaten their lives. It's not a biblical value to obstruct justice. it's not a biblical value to lie. It's not a biblical value to have sex with porn stars just after your wife gives birth to your child.

I think there is a difference in cultural values. And I think there is a minuscule portion of the Left who are just as extremist as the alt-right or the white supremacists Trump cannot condemn.

Moreover, much of what Trump complains about China was addressed in the Trans Pacific Partnership (that he never read) and he tore up. It had provisions for addressing abuses as an alliance of countries. Now, Trump has to backtrack on his tariffs that us "dumbass" liberals said would be a disaster, because the tariffs ended up being a disaster -- hurting farmers and manufacturers.
 
Some people favor radical leftist communists over Trump. I don't. There is nothing wrong withy talking with Russians but there is a whole lot wrong with trying to set up the President of the US with lies and forming an investigation based upon those lies. The leftists cannot now admit they lied so we are still forced to hear from them with more of their stupid lying Russian conspiracy hoax.
We've seen this movie before. In 1961, conservatives considered calls from the public for a national health insurance program covering senior citizen "socialism" and warned that it would destroy American freedom. The fact is that conservatives overuse the scare tactic of 'socialism' to combat any kind of economic liberalism. Whether that liberalism is free college tuition, green policy initiatives or a 70% top tax-rate, the ranting that we're going to become Venezuela or the Soviet Union these conservatives shamelessly lie, because they can't argue against the programs on the strength of real merits.

What's ironic is that nothing people like AOC propose are anything like "communism" but more close to what exists in Denmark (pssst, a free democracy) America does have a powerful, radical crazy Republican Party. There’s nothing equivalent on the Dem side -- yes, there are individual crazy Dems, but nothing like the organized, lavishly financed madness from right-wing Republicans.

What do I mean? When Democrats are in power, they created Social Security and lifted millions of elderly people out of poverty. They created Medicare and Medicaid when the poor and elderly didn't have access to health insurance. Democrats created the Affordable Care Act and banned discrimination on the basis of preexisting conditions, which got tens of millions insurance.

What have Republicans done? They resisted every one of those programs. Most recently, President Trump {cough} entered into a lawsuit in hopes of having the ACA declared unconstitutional, which would throw millions of families off of insurance and disrupt the entire insurance market. What else have they done when in power? They pass upper-income tax-cuts because they recognize that millionaires and billionaires just don't have enough money. They also cut environmental regulations that harm us all.

As for those that Republicans call "radical," like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, her policy ideas are definitely bold -- such as a 70% upper-income tax and Medicare for all, but they aren’t crazy. By contrast, the ideas of Tea Party Republicans are crazy; in fact, Ocasio-Cortez’s policy positions are a lot more sensible than those of the Republican mainstream, let alone the GOP’s more radical members, that believe in abolishing the IRS and going back on the gold standard.

I, therefore, welcome a comparison of Trump policies with those proposed by Democrats. Bring it on.
 
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Ahh so we are back to no due process.
Evidence does not matter.

..How fascist.

Evidence matters. Direct evidence matters. Circumstantial evidence matters.

Inferences which we can draw from circumstantial evidence matters.

An accumulation of circumstantial evidence puts people behind bars all the time.

This happens every day in every courtroom in the U.S.

Video footage of Trump marking up the map with his sharpie would certainly be helpful, but to be honest, I don't think you would even believe that. You would think the video is part of some devilish deep state conspiracy.

Just from a common-sense perspective, how many times does someone have to lie to you before you recognize them to be a liar?

You wanna tell me the dude with a fixation with sharpies, who uses sharpies all the time, who sources say used a sharpie on the map, and who threatened to fire people who didn't agree with him, did not make the sharpie mark on the weather forecast which he then tweeted about endlessly for the next week? Seriously?

Why is it so hard for you to admit?
 
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... good to know we are back in 2018.

Lol, you can tell this guy isn't good at numbers.

Sent from the Matrioshka in the WH Christmas tree.


Good eye!

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I had to go back and look......poster is scroll-over land.
 
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