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Trump displays altered weather map showing Dorian could have hit Alabama

Oborosen said:
I'm not at all surprised that you don't know what the definition of racism is, nor how to actually apply it.
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Yeah, sure. That makes sense. I have more grad school in sociology than you have school total, but sure.

Tell us about the "black racism".


And, hey, didn't you claim I took a racist position? What ever happened to explaining that idiotic BS. Are you even gonna try, or was that straight slander.
 
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ecofarm said:
Hey, just for kicks...

Why don't you tell us all what my racist position is. Can't wait to hear this dumb crap.
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Because you're still pushing birtherism as a thing. That makes you racist, going by the same rules that you so willingly play by.
 
Oborosen said:
Because you're still pushing birtherism as a thing. That makes you racist, going by the same rules that you so willingly play by.
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That's completely moronic. You should be ashamed.
 
AProudLefty said:
So if a weatherman giving report on serious hurricane that could have severe damage using obsolete map isn't a lie?
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If that information is all the weatherman has, and if it's all he knows at the time. Even with what the NOAA supplied, there was still a 5% chance. So I actually don't mind that he still said for those in Alabama to be ready.

Now what happened after a few days, that was just Trump trolling the hell out of the media, and It's worked better than I thought it would. This whole thing has basically turned into a massive joke for most of the right leaning people in my office, and even most of the moderates... all four of them at least.
 
Oborosen said:
If that information is all the weatherman has, and if it's all he knows at the time.
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Trump saw the sharpie line like everyone else. He knew it was fake. Stop pretending Trump is functionally brain dead.
 
AProudLefty said:
Why draw a line with a Sharpie?
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Don't know. Could be something along the lines of visual verification, guesswork maybe?

We still don't even know if it was him that did it. I've seen three articles now over the last week that said something along the lines of "anonymous source said" Trump drew the circle on the board, claimed "they could recognize his writing style"... I'm just becoming disillusioned with this whole thing... I've got a patient that talks about it, and just laughs about it all the damn time...
 
SkyFox76 said:
Okay there are really no good things to flip here on.

1-He didn't know the map was altered and old.

This means the current president of the United States will use whatever is put in front of him without question and share it with the world. He doesn't question whether it's legit. Not a good look for the USA.

2-He knew it was altered and incorrect but he went ahead and used it because he needed to be backed up over this twitter statement days earlier.

This means he simply didn't care how silly he looked, I don't even think he realizes he looks abnormally stupid. He pays people to walk around and tell him how smart he is, how he's right even when it's far from the truth. Go against that grain-there's the revolving door.

3-He personally drew the extended bubble at the end.

This means he lied when he claimed IDK three times.

4-He saw a staff member draw the that line.

Again not a good spin to be saying IDK.
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Still don't know in most cases, as is.
 
ecofarm said:
That's completely moronic. You should be ashamed.
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Oop disagreeing with a black man, and criticizing him. That counts as racism in this day and age ecofarm.

Still playing by the same insane rules that you like to play by. So you really only have yourself to blame for this.
 
ecofarm said:
Trump saw the sharpie line like everyone else. He knew it was fake. Stop pretending Trump is functionally brain dead.
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Strange, now you're saying that he actually has working brain.

The narrative only works when it suits your agenda I guess.
 
Oborosen said:
Strange, now you're saying that he actually has working brain.

The narrative only works when it suits your agenda I guess.
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I've never called Trump stupid or anything else derogatory.

You're calling him a brain dead idiot by claiming he couldn't see the map was falsified.
 
Oborosen said:
Oop disagreeing with a black man, and criticizing him. That counts as racism in this day and age ecofarm.

Still playing by the same insane rules that you like to play by. So you really only have yourself to blame for this.
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Sure.
 
ecofarm said:
I've never called Trump stupid or anything else derogatory.

You're calling him a brain dead idiot by claiming he couldn't see the map was falsified.
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If it corresponded to the information he had, then he would have reason to believe anything was falsified.
 
Oborosen said:
If it corresponded to the information he had, then he would have reason to believe anything was falsified.
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He could see the sharpie line, like everyone else. Only a complete and utter idiot could fail to say, "wait a minute, that's drawn on there by a sharpie!"

Not even the most virulent Trump hater would claim he's so stupid he couldn't see it.
 
ecofarm said:
He could see the sharpie line, like everyone else. Only a complete and utter idiot could fail to say, "wait a minute, that's drawn on there by a sharpie!"

Not even the most virulent Trump hater would claim he's so stupid he couldn't see it.
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ecofarm said:
He could see the sharpie line, like everyone else. Only a complete and utter idiot could fail to say, "wait a minute, that's drawn on there by a sharpie!"

Not even the most virulent Trump hater would claim he's so stupid he couldn't see it.
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Okay, right here is where you're jumping to conclusions. If this information corresponded to what he had at the time. Then there was no reason him to think as such.
 
Oborosen said:
Okay, right here is where you're jumping to conclusions. If this information corresponded to what he had at the time. Then there was no reason him to think as such.
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You honestly think Trump is so ****ing stupid that he could look at that map and not question it?

It doesn't matter what corresponded. It had a sharpie drawing a 3 year old would notice.

The map was clearly falsified. Clearly. Trump could not possibly have missed that. So he knew it was fake.
 
Oborosen said:
Okay, right here is where you're jumping to conclusions. If this information corresponded to what he had at the time. Then there was no reason him to think as such.
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I'm jumping to the conclusion that Trump has an IQ of at least 60 and thus saw the sharpie drawing like everyone else.

Is that a big leap?
 
ecofarm said:
You honestly think Trump is so ****ing stupid that he could look at that map and not question it?

It doesn't matter what corresponded. It had a sharpie drawing a 3 year old would notice.

The map was clearly falsified. Clearly. Trump could not possibly have missed that. So he knew it was fake.
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Once again, just jumping to some conclusion isn't doing anything. We already know that he got the correct information for NOAA before, so we don't know if any of this doesn't actually fit, or not.

If you want to make your own conclusion, fine. Just don't act like it's the only truth that there is.
 
ecofarm said:
I'm jumping to the conclusion that Trump has an IQ of at least 60 and thus saw the sharpie drawing like everyone else.

Is that a big leap?
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No, you're jumping to the conclusion to what information he had, and if it didn't correspond with the map.

I'll readily point out his trolling of the media a few days after the fact, but this is insane to keep arguing about a semicircle drawn with sharpie.
 
Oborosen said:
No, you're jumping to the conclusion to what information he had, and if it didn't correspond with the map.
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False and stupid.

I clearly stated that correlation to data "he had" is irrelevant.

Even a moron would question the sharpie falsification, regardless of anything else.


I'll readily point out his trolling of the media a few days after the fact, but this is insane to keep arguing about a semicircle drawn with sharpie.
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The President of the US lied to the face of the American people to cover a simple mistake with a falsified document. That's not cool. Never will be. This isn't Iran.
 
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ecofarm said:
False and stupid.

I clearly stated that correlation to data "he had" is irrelevant.

Even a moron would question the sharpie falsification.



The President of the US lied to the face of the American people to cover a simple mistake with a falsified document. That's not cool. Never will be. This isn't Iran.
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Once again, if you want to call something a lie that can simple be seen as being wrong. You are completely capable of doing so, but that does not make you correct.

You're also trying to ignore the data, because with it. You can easily tell that the data he had was correct, up until the NOAA updated it less than a day later. Which shows that the mark, no matter who put it on that board. Hell, for all we know. That could've been the way that the board was transferred out, after someone made a last minute alteration. So we still don't actually know.

This whole sharpie trolling nonsense is just him capitalizing on the medias headlines.
 
Oborosen said:
Once again, if you want to call something a lie that can simple be seen as being wrong. You are completely capable of doing so, but that does not make you correct.

You're also trying to ignore the data, because with it. You can easily tell that the data he had was correct, up until the NOAA updated it less than a day later. Which shows that the mark, no matter who put it on that board. Hell, for all we know. That could've been the way that the board was transferred out, after someone made a last minute alteration. So we still don't actually know.

This whole sharpie trolling nonsense is just him capitalizing on the medias headlines.
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He lied to the face of the American people with a plainly falsified document. He did so to cover a simple mistake.

That's not okay. This is not Iran.
 
ecofarm said:
He lied to the face of the American people with a plainly falsified document. He did so to cover a simple mistake.

That's not okay. This is not Iran.
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You keep saying that like it actually applies here. Which is wrong, and is decidedly annoying.

Lying, and simply being wrong are two very different things. You do know that, right?
 
Oborosen said:
You keep saying that like it actually applies here. Which is wrong, and is decidedly annoying.

Lying, and simply being wrong are two very different things. You do know that, right?
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I got news for you: All politicians lie. This one lied to our face and you're just gonna take it. Well, not me. I don't worship politicians.
 
marke said:
God could have not allowed my wish, but He did. Hillary did not win and Trump did, thank God.
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Nope you got Trump who disregards Christian values and places himself above God.
 
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