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[W:257] David Koch Has Died

Obscurity said:
I can show you facts. You can either look for yourself or you can choose to sit here and insult me. Either way, I'm not going to hold your hand and I'm not going to tolerate your bs.
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You still haven't produced any.

Sorry. I'm not going to hold my breath.
 
Hatuey said:
I wonder when one of the Clinton
dies, if all of the Republicans will be cumming over themselves to talk about charitable donations.

Lol.

Sent from the Matrioshka in the WH Christmas tree.
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I would bet it'll be a whole lot less venomous and vile.
 
Anthony60 said:
You know, it is really pathetic that someone pounds their chest and declares to us that he/she is being "true to themselves" when they attack someone that just passed.

You don't get it. It is a time for sympathy, or just keep you stupid mouth shut. You have all the time in the world later to voice your opinion. Except the mourning period. But you don't have the slightest shred of class to even respect someone's passing. You are making a foolish spectacle of yourself. It's not Hitler, Stalin, Bin Laden, etc...
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If you've ever watched your own local government or school district, or city services agencies get decimated by ALEC legislation, then YES, it IS like bin Laden, it's very much like watching a scaled down version of terrorists destroying your friends and family, only instead of flying planes into skyscrapers, they fly briefcases into courtrooms, Halliburton Zero Cases full of cash into city council meetings, and lobbyist attache cases into state legislatures.

Paper terrorism and financial terrorism don't create fire, blood and gore, but they do create bankrupted towns and cities, and they do destroy environment.
 
What if...? said:
No. But its a guy who had his face struck on a gold coin.

**** that guy. Good riddance.

But I send my thought and prayers to his survivors.
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Thoughts and prayers for a speedy reunion!

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Anthony60 said:
Even worse, showing true colors then.
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Oh well, I tried explaining the basic principle.

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Obscurity said:
Sorry, I despise soros also. I despise the rich using their money to buy policy, on either side. Soros has funded some evil campaigns also. But koch takes the cake.
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There is a difference. The Koch Bros., who are worth about $46 billion each, use their wealth to influence policies that favor themselves, so they can amass even more wealth, which usually means forming policies that disadvantage everyone else. Soros support policies that are to his personal financial disadvantage -- higher taxes on the rich; a broad social safety net, etc. -- that's civic virtue!
 
Lovebug said:
I can't wait for all the warm remarks sure to show who is compassionate.It will be very telling.
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We can then compare it to any Ruth Bader Ginsburg thread, I am sure.
 
MTAtech said:
There was no RIP tag in the thread.
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Because a liberal formed the thread without the tag so he could piss on the man's grave and you guys lined up to do so.

Plus mods can't be everywhere.
 
SheWolf said:
He spent millions to shape American politics far beyond his own life, and now he is dead. I don’t see why he made it his life’s mission to push his own political agenda on the rest of the country. I don’t appreciate his political stances. He could have done something else with his life and money.
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David Koch gave billions of his money to charitable causes. From funding medical research, medical centers, hospitals, the arts, education etc.

“I really want to put my money to work making the world a better place.”

David H. Koch to the Wall Street Journal

He did that in life and most likely when they read his will, he will continue to do so in death.

David Koch spent billions giving back to charity, here’s where it all went | Fox Business
 
JackA said:
Charles Koch is known for his donations to right wing groups, especially climate change deniers. So had David Koch but he had been also a substantial benefactor for medical research, the arts and other estimable causes.

From Wiki:


David H. Koch Charitable Foundation

David H. Koch established the David H. Koch Charitable Foundation.[32] The David H. Koch Charitable Foundation has funded cancer research and a number of arts and science organizations, including the American Ballet Theatre, New York City Ballet, Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, and the American Museum of Natural History.[1][32] An open letter to museums from 36 members of the scientific community demanded that the Smithsonian and other museums cut any ties with the Kochs, because of worries that they would remove information on climate change. The Smithsonian countered by stating both exhibits in question did examine in great detail the impacts of climate change. The Koch Foundation responded they "have pledged or contributed more than $1.2 billion dollars to educational institutions and cultural institutions, cancer research, medical centers, and to assist public policy organizations."[33]

David Koch donated $35 million in 2012 to the Smithsonian's Natural History Museum and $20 million to the American Museum of Natural History in New York City.[34] Joe Romm of ThinkProgress stated "David Koch did not personally intervene to affect the exhibit".[35] David Koch is a member of the board of trustees of the American Museum of Natural History in New York and the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History in Washington.[33]

The David H. Koch Charitable Foundation is a significant funder of Americans for Prosperity,[36] a libertarian/conservative political advocacy group. David H. Koch chairs the board of directors of the associated AFP Foundation.[37]
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Look at all the awful - and charitable - things Carnegie did. Somewhere in a person's mind they want to cement a positive image for future generations. I don't think it's going to work out so well for the Koch brothers. They ensured that they did so much damage, their images can never be redeemed. I expect their historical context to be similar to Boss Tweed. Grotesque human beings with no apparent redeemable qualities. It's a shame we live in a society that allowed them to cause so much harm. It would be interesting to know when we stopped considering honorable men and women to be our role models rather than the absurdly rich and the snake oil salesmen.

They must all die whispering their version of "rosebud" but I can't see what difference that made to society for the fictional Kane, the real Hearst, or a man like David Koch.
 
Obscurity said:
Billionaire industrialist and conservative mega-donor David Koch has died at age 79, according to New Yorker reporter

Seems one of the GOP's mega-donors has bit the bullet. Good riddance, I say, to industrialists like him who poison the water, the air, destroy natural resources, and infect our politics with vile extremist ideologies.
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Good riddance to a very deserving conservative dirtbag.

He survived cancer for many years and fought to deny others that same care. I wonder how Mitch (the turtle) McConnell will fawn over him?
 
Lisa said:
Good riddance to a very deserving conservative dirtbag.

He survived cancer for many years and fought to deny others that same care. I wonder how Mitch (the turtle) McConnell will fawn over him?
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A billionaire spending his final years hatefully denying others the benefits of the world's wealthiest nation while scheming to destroy our water supply and flood it with plastics is simply unfathomable to me.

Some people, simply put, thrive on being evil. So, I am sure he died being exactly who he was always born to be. An asshole.
 
calamity said:
A billionaire spending his final years hatefully denying others the benefits of the world's wealthiest nation while scheming to destroy our water supply and flood it with plastics is simply unfathomable to me.

Some people, simply put, thrive on being evil. So, I am sure he died being exactly who he was always born to be. An asshole.
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I don't believe in evil. He was an entitled greedy asshole who didn't see others as equals.
His father was a racist dirtbag who founded the company and his brothers were trust fund babies who never worked except at daddy's widget business. He was a lot like Trump.
 
Bullseye said:
I would bet it'll be a whole lot less venomous and vile.
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The Koch's were poisonous and rotten in spite of charitable donations. Using them to redeem someone's image is more of the same cash for salvation shtick we hear from prosperity gospel thieves. I don't care for where he goes, I'm more interested in all of the politicians he paid to get elected being removed.



Sent from the Matrioshka in the WH Christmas tree.
 
Lisa said:
I don't believe in evil. He was an entitled greedy asshole who didn't see others as equals.
His father was a racist dirtbag who founded the company and his brothers were trust fund babies who never worked except at daddy's widget business. He was a lot like Trump.
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I meant evil in the secular sense: greedy, vile selfish dirtbag.
 
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