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[W:257] David Koch Has Died

MrWonka said:
It's sad, but this is kind of how I feel about all the baby boomers that vote Trump. My uncle died last year and I remember thinking, oh well. One less Trump voter. The baby boomer generation is going to go down in history as the Worst Generation of Americans. It's kind of sad how many of them will likely go to their grave with their children and grandchildren losing all respect for them because of Trump and their horrible political views.
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These threads are great because it exposes the hypocrisy of those who sit here and want free speech but then demand and degrade you for not having common courtesy for Koch's living relatives.

When I die I expect the good and the bad. It's true to who I am and was. Saying only nice things destroys whatever legacy I left behind, and invalidates my growth through life and those choices and experiences.
 
JackA said:
Charles Koch is known for his donations to right wing groups, especially climate change deniers. So had David Koch but he had been also a substantial benefactor for medical research, the arts and other estimable causes.

From Wiki:


David H. Koch Charitable Foundation

David H. Koch established the David H. Koch Charitable Foundation.[32] The David H. Koch Charitable Foundation has funded cancer research and a number of arts and science organizations, including the American Ballet Theatre, New York City Ballet, Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, and the American Museum of Natural History.[1][32] An open letter to museums from 36 members of the scientific community demanded that the Smithsonian and other museums cut any ties with the Kochs, because of worries that they would remove information on climate change. The Smithsonian countered by stating both exhibits in question did examine in great detail the impacts of climate change. The Koch Foundation responded they "have pledged or contributed more than $1.2 billion dollars to educational institutions and cultural institutions, cancer research, medical centers, and to assist public policy organizations."[33]

David Koch donated $35 million in 2012 to the Smithsonian's Natural History Museum and $20 million to the American Museum of Natural History in New York City.[34] Joe Romm of ThinkProgress stated "David Koch did not personally intervene to affect the exhibit".[35] David Koch is a member of the board of trustees of the American Museum of Natural History in New York and the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History in Washington.[33]

The David H. Koch Charitable Foundation is a significant funder of Americans for Prosperity,[36] a libertarian/conservative political advocacy group. David H. Koch chairs the board of directors of the associated AFP Foundation.[37]
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I'm wondering? Will all that giving erase his political and business sins? Reading all that stuff reminds me of the movie 'inside man'.
 
bongsaway said:
I'm wondering? Will all that giving erase his political and business sins? Reading all that stuff reminds me of the movie 'inside man'.
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It won't. They are part of the same legacy and while some of his "giving" was good, David Koch's propensity to pollute, make people sick through the pollution, fight efforts to stop his pollution, and mega donations to paleo-conservative far right libertarian Darwinism is enough for me to disavow him and his kind.
 
Wonder how much he willed to the RNC


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Obscurity said:
Billionaire industrialist and conservative mega-donor David Koch has died at age 79, according to New Yorker reporter

Seems one of the GOP's mega donors has bit the bullet. Good riddance, I say, to industrialists like him who poison the water, the air, destroy natural resources, and infect our politics with vile extremist ideologies.
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He spent millions to shape American politics far beyond his own life, and now he is dead. I don’t see why he made it his life’s mission to push his own political agenda on the rest of the country. I don’t appreciate his political stances. He could have done something else with his life and money.
 
Lutherf said:
Some of you people just totally suck as human beings. Has nobody ever taught you that if you have nothing nice to say then say nothing at all? When you express disrespect for someone no longer able to defend themselves then act as a bully and a brat. When you do so for political purposes you come off as a pathetic hack.

There are threads in this forum that just flat out make me ashamed to participate here and this is one of them.
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As Bette Davis would put it: "You should never say bad things about the dead, you should only say good… "
 
Obscurity said:
I do not parse words for the dead when they pass on. I said the same about Jerry Falwell when he died. I do not understand nor support hollow words of compassion and praise for evil people on their passing.

The Koch brothers have systemically destroyed environments, have proliferated anti-worker anti-union hysteria, and have completely undermined US Politics, Just like Jerry Falwell did.

In fact, I remember the outrage of people when the obituary of the Dayton shooter was released saying kind things about the shooter.

I find it utterly grotesque to douse the dead in praise if in life they were evil, wicked people.
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Certified badass.
 
:2wave: :flames::devil::flames:
 
digsbe said:
So when George Soros and RGB finally leave this world we can dance on their graves because they were vile, wicked people who used their money/power in this life to do terrible things?
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Except they weren't, and you won't be able to provide a single actual argument why. But dance away, who cares, you hate people just because they are liberal and no other reason. We hate people like the Kochs becuase the do actual damage to workers, they have pushed the pro rich propaganda all to line their pockets
 
digsbe said:
So when George Soros and RGB finally leave this world we can dance on their graves because they were vile, wicked people who used their money/power in this life to do terrible things?
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Sure.

Who is RGB?
 
Lutherf said:
Some of you people just totally suck as human beings. Has nobody ever taught you that if you have nothing nice to say then say nothing at all? When you express disrespect for someone no longer able to defend themselves then act as a bully and a brat. When you do so for political purposes you come off as a pathetic hack.

There are threads in this forum that just flat out make me ashamed to participate here and this is one of them.
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FAke outrage, and actually projection. you just described yourself and fellow who do nothing but bully, act like brats and hack. Who the hell are you kidding?

Respect from conservatives? LOL Good one
 
Winchester said:
As Bette Davis would put it: "You should never say bad things about the dead, you should only say good… "
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I disagree. I think it's important that older baby boomer Republicans see how their children and grand children have lost total respect for them. Our parents generation have crossed the line into full blown fascism now. They are modern day Nazis, and I think one of the worst things we could do is let them keep up the delusion that we're some how going to forgive them and look past what they've done.

Your children will right your history. I say we make it perfectly clear to baby boomers right now that the history we will be writing for them will be sad and disappointing. Maybe the shock to their system will help them pull their heads out of their asses and do something to fix this mess before it's too late.
 
Obscurity said:
Billionaire industrialist and conservative mega-donor David Koch has died at age 79, according to New Yorker reporter

Seems one of the GOP's mega donors has bit the bullet. Good riddance, I say, to industrialists like him who poison the water, the air, destroy natural resources, and infect our politics with vile extremist ideologies.
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Here it is folks, the blind hatred of the left. David Koch agreed with them on every issue of importance, including censoring right-wing dissidents. But they still hate him because he wasn't a 100% orthodox leftist.
 
JackA said:
Charles Koch is known for his donations to right wing groups, especially climate change deniers. So had David Koch but he had been also a substantial benefactor for medical research, the arts and other estimable causes.

From Wiki:


David H. Koch Charitable Foundation

David H. Koch established the David H. Koch Charitable Foundation.[32] The David H. Koch Charitable Foundation has funded cancer research and a number of arts and science organizations, including the American Ballet Theatre, New York City Ballet, Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, and the American Museum of Natural History.[1][32] An open letter to museums from 36 members of the scientific community demanded that the Smithsonian and other museums cut any ties with the Kochs, because of worries that they would remove information on climate change. The Smithsonian countered by stating both exhibits in question did examine in great detail the impacts of climate change. The Koch Foundation responded they "have pledged or contributed more than $1.2 billion dollars to educational institutions and cultural institutions, cancer research, medical centers, and to assist public policy organizations."[33]

David Koch donated $35 million in 2012 to the Smithsonian's Natural History Museum and $20 million to the American Museum of Natural History in New York City.[34] Joe Romm of ThinkProgress stated "David Koch did not personally intervene to affect the exhibit".[35] David Koch is a member of the board of trustees of the American Museum of Natural History in New York and the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History in Washington.[33]

The David H. Koch Charitable Foundation is a significant funder of Americans for Prosperity,[36] a libertarian/conservative political advocacy group. David H. Koch chairs the board of directors of the associated AFP Foundation.[37]
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Charitable donations like these are just another form of status seeking. Getting their names put on things. Funding a nice place for their rich friends to enjoy things those dirty poors do not.

And AFP can go **** itself.
 
digsbe said:
So when George Soros and RGB finally leave this world we can dance on their graves because they were vile, wicked people who used their money/power in this life to do terrible things?
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I mean your welcome to try, but I think you'll find that the public's opinion of both of those people will be significantly higher than that of the Koch brothers or any modern Republican so if you do there will be significantly more scorn directed at you for it.

At this point John McCain was the last Republican left in America who was really deserving of any level of respect whatsoever. The remainder of the party has sold their soul to the closet thing to Satan that exists From here on out it's primarily going to be older Republicans dying and younger liberals doing the dancing.
 
JackA said:
Charles Koch is known for his donations to right wing groups, especially climate change deniers. So had David Koch but he had been also a substantial benefactor for medical research, the arts and other estimable causes.

From Wiki:


David H. Koch Charitable Foundation

David H. Koch established the David H. Koch Charitable Foundation.[32] The David H. Koch Charitable Foundation has funded cancer research and a number of arts and science organizations, including the American Ballet Theatre, New York City Ballet, Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, and the American Museum of Natural History.[1][32] An open letter to museums from 36 members of the scientific community demanded that the Smithsonian and other museums cut any ties with the Kochs, because of worries that they would remove information on climate change. The Smithsonian countered by stating both exhibits in question did examine in great detail the impacts of climate change. The Koch Foundation responded they "have pledged or contributed more than $1.2 billion dollars to educational institutions and cultural institutions, cancer research, medical centers, and to assist public policy organizations."[33]

David Koch donated $35 million in 2012 to the Smithsonian's Natural History Museum and $20 million to the American Museum of Natural History in New York City.[34] Joe Romm of ThinkProgress stated "David Koch did not personally intervene to affect the exhibit".[35] David Koch is a member of the board of trustees of the American Museum of Natural History in New York and the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History in Washington.[33]

The David H. Koch Charitable Foundation is a significant funder of Americans for Prosperity,[36] a libertarian/conservative political advocacy group. David H. Koch chairs the board of directors of the associated AFP Foundation.[37]
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I knew one of them put the family name on hospitals, museums, and universities.

The other wrote the checks for a variety of far right wing pressure groups and campaign, usually anonymously.
 
AmNat said:
Here it is folks, the blind hatred of the left. David Koch agreed with them on every issue of importance, including censoring right-wing dissidents. But they still hate him because he wasn't a 100% orthodox leftist.
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I do not hate David Koch. I hate what he did to our politics, and what he used his vast fortune for. I hate his ideological perspective of nihilistic Darwinism.
 
MrWonka said:
I mean your welcome to try, but I think you'll find that the public's opinion of both of those people will be significantly higher than that of the Koch brothers or any modern Republican so if you do there will be significantly more scorn directed at you for it.

At this point John McCain was the last Republican left in America who was really deserving of any level of respect whatsoever. The remainder of the party has sold their soul to the closet thing to Satan that exists From here on out it's primarily going to be older Republicans dying and younger liberals doing the dancing.
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You and I both know the right will be dancing in the streets when Soros dies. And RBG. I expect no less. I cannot wait until it happens, so I can bring this thread back to life for them to see their own hypocrisy.
 
MrWonka said:
It's sad, but this is kind of how I feel about all the baby boomers that vote Trump. My uncle died last year and I remember thinking, oh well. One less Trump voter. The baby boomer generation is going to go down in history as the Worst Generation of Americans. It's kind of sad how many of them will likely go to their grave with their children and grandchildren losing all respect for them because of Trump and their horrible political views.
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How many times are you going to post your disgusting story about your hatred for your own family before you get embarrassed?
 
What if...? said:
Charitable donations like these are just another form of status seeking. Getting their names put on things. Funding a nice place for their rich friends to enjoy things those dirty poors do not.

And AFP can go **** itself.
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Correct, and perfectly stated. The rich are always status seeking like this, as if they alone have the might and clout to fix things. It is this pretentious view that makes my skin crawl.
 
What if...? said:
Charitable donations like these are just another form of status seeking. Getting their names put on things. Funding a nice place for their rich friends to enjoy things those dirty poors do not.

And AFP can go **** itself.
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You had read his mind?
 
Lovebug said:
I can't wait for all the warm remarks sure to show who is compassionate.It will be very telling.
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^
The second post in the thread. Talk about "telling."​
 
Obscurity said:
I do not parse words for the dead when they pass on. I said the same about Jerry Falwell when he died. I do not understand nor support hollow words of compassion and praise for evil people on their passing.

The Koch brothers have systemically destroyed environments, have proliferated anti-worker anti-union hysteria, and have completely undermined US Politics, Just like Jerry Falwell did.

In fact, I remember the outrage of people when the obituary of the Dayton shooter was released saying kind things about the shooter.

I find it utterly grotesque to douse the dead in praise if in life they were evil, wicked people.
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ajn678 said:
Certified badass.
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Just so you know, I was being completely sarcastic. Nothing about what you said can in anyway be seen as anything other than someone edgy that has yet to grow up.
 
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