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    Re: AP-NORC poll: 62% disapprove of how Trumpís handling his job

    Quote Originally Posted by JustHanging View Post
    Rolling back environmental protection was also a huge mistake. It helped industry, which looked good for Trump, but like the rest of his crackhead economic policy, it's spend big to party today, and ignore future. In this case there are going to be increased risk of cancer, which will add to your healthcare costs, along with huge site cleanup costs your children and grandchildren will need to pay for.
    He threw out at least the baby with the bath water on the environment, Obama's policies and his South American policy.

    What would you keep of Trump?

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    Re: AP-NORC poll: 62% disapprove of how Trumpís handling his job

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I edited my previous comment, but I'll say it again...If you have another source for national party affiliation, please present it and I'll consider them. Until then, I'll stick with Gallup.
    I suppose my other sources would be all of the polls doing it rather than looking at just one. Gallup doesn't even have a track record that can be measured any more since they ceased doing elections polling after being the most inaccurate pollster included by RCP in 2008 Obama vs. McCain, the 2010 Generic Congressional Ballot, and 2012 Obama vs. Romney. (Although to be fair they were inaccurate in favor of the Democrats in 2008 and in favor of Republicans in 2010 and 2012 so at least they haven't been biased in the same way.)

    But I think it makes more sense to look at the aggregate of polling, see that it has historically been very accurate, that all of their polls disagree with Gallup and think that there might be something more there than one single formerly inaccurate pollster whose polling you can't even test for accuracy anymore since they don't poll elections.
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    Re: AP-NORC poll: 62% disapprove of how Trumpís handling his job

    Quote Originally Posted by Logician Man View Post
    Only 62 percent ?
    Yeah, only 62%.

    But it's progress. There are some who will say they approve no matter what. Even if they are consciously troubled, some will feel it's their duty to say they approve, in order to show support for their chosen swamp monster since they know that the majority of the country will answer negatively.

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    Re: AP-NORC poll: 62% disapprove of how Trumpís handling his job

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    As long as the Democratic base doesn't show the same level of fickleness that they showed in 2016, they can beat Trump next year.
    Sadly, there are not many very encouraging signs pointing to this actually happening.
    All the Left needs if for the equivalent of the Bernie Bros to get upset that there is a more moderate candidate receiving the nomination and sit another election out, or vote for a 3rd party candidate that will pull in less than 3% of the vote and you might as well just call it now.
    I hope I am wrong and the whole party rallies around whomever gets the nomination, but I have my doubts.

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    Re: AP-NORC poll: 62% disapprove of how Trumpís handling his job

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    Just dismiss inconvenient information. I just hope the Russians don't fudge the election next year like they did in 2016, which had Trump win an electoral college victory by getting a measly 80,000 votes more, spread over four key states -- basically, a statistical fluke. We can be assured that the Dems aren't going to ignore MI, WI, PA and Iowa.

    But do keep thinking that lightning is going to strike the same place twice.

    Now that America got to see up close who they elected, he's less popular than ever.
    Trump beat Mrs. Clinton when his approval rating at 37.8% at election eve, the same approval you are crowing about now.
    Stop with that 80,000 votes giving Trump the electoral majority & try to recall that Mr's Clinton won 3 states by less than
    the 70,000 Trump won by. BTW the Democrat talking point has always been 3 states Mich, Wis & Pennsylvania not 4 as
    you mentioned!

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    Re: AP-NORC poll: 62% disapprove of how Trumpís handling his job

    Quote Originally Posted by slick View Post
    Trump beat Mrs. Clinton when his approval rating at 37.8% at election eve, the same approval you are crowing about now.
    Stop with that 80,000 votes giving Trump the electoral majority & try to recall that Mr's Clinton won 3 states by less than
    the 70,000 Trump won by. BTW the Democrat talking point has always been 3 states Mich, Wis & Pennsylvania not 4 as
    you mentioned!
    What you are forgetting is that Clinton had a 41.8% approval rating, according to RCP average. That's pretty close to Trump's.
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    Re: AP-NORC poll: 62% disapprove of how Trumpís handling his job

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Don't get excited...this is just another bogus poll. Here is my post from that other thread on this topic:

    Here we go again...

    This Associated PressĖNORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll sampling by party...

    Dem - 44%
    Rep - 35%
    Ind - 21%

    http://www.apnorc.org/PDFs/AP-NORC%2...rstrelease.pdf

    Party affiliation in the US

    Dem - 27%
    Rep - 29%
    Ind - 38%

    Party Affiliation | Gallup Historical Trends

    So...that poll oversampled Dems by 17%, Reps by 6% and undersampled Inds by a 17%.

    Add this bogus poll to that bogus Fox poll that was even worse...and that's why you NEVER trust an average of polls like you get from 538 or RCP. An average of bogus polls equals a bogus average. GIGO

    POLL REJECTED!!

    Sorry to burst your bubble...again.
    What's your argument, exactly? That these professional pollsters are fixing the numbers to make Trump look bad or that they aren't competent at what they do and need your suggestions?

    It would seem to me that they have the statistical science nailed and they have no motivation to report inaccuracies that make Trump look worse.

    What this looks like to me is cognitive dissonance, which is the rejection of data that undercuts your own wants or perceptions.
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    Re: AP-NORC poll: 62% disapprove of how Trumpís handling his job

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    You can be certain that Donald Trump will never become president. President Obama, Nancy Pelosi, every one of the Hollywood limousine crowd, every commentator on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and NBC and every poll proves this conclusively.

    So stop worrying about nothing. Donald Trump will never become president and has NO chance of beating President Hilary Clinton in her re-election.
    Oh, hey look......sarcasm. that puts the whole world into perspective.

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    Re: AP-NORC poll: 62% disapprove of how Trumpís handling his job

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    I suppose my other sources would be all of the polls doing it rather than looking at just one. Gallup doesn't even have a track record that can be measured any more since they ceased doing elections polling after being the most inaccurate pollster included by RCP in 2008 Obama vs. McCain, the 2010 Generic Congressional Ballot, and 2012 Obama vs. Romney. (Although to be fair they were inaccurate in favor of the Democrats in 2008 and in favor of Republicans in 2010 and 2012 so at least they haven't been biased in the same way.)

    But I think it makes more sense to look at the aggregate of polling, see that it has historically been very accurate, that all of their polls disagree with Gallup and think that there might be something more there than one single formerly inaccurate pollster whose polling you can't even test for accuracy anymore since they don't poll elections.
    Well, if you think AP and the other polls have their own party affiliation data, then you'll need to present their data. (if, in fact, they have any) If you can't or if they won't tell you what their data is, then I'll continue to use a credible source...Gallup.
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    Re: AP-NORC poll: 62% disapprove of how Trumpís handling his job

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    What you are forgetting is that Clinton had a 41.8% approval rating, according to RCP average. That's pretty close to Trump's.
    Very true but do you think any of the big four will have an approval rating much higher than Clinton did in 2016. I do not!

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