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    Pentagon conducts 1st test of previously banned missile

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    Pentagon conducts 1st test of previously banned missile


    WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military has conducted a flight test of a type of missile banned for more than 30 years by a treaty that both the United States and Russia abandoned this month, the Pentagon said.

    The test off the coast of California on Sunday marked the resumption of an arms competition that some analysts worry could increase U.S.-Russian tensions. The Trump administration has said it remains interested in useful arms control but questions Moscow’s willingness to adhere to its treaty commitments.

    The Pentagon said it tested a modified ground-launched version of a Navy Tomahawk cruise missile, which was launched from San Nicolas Island and accurately struck its target after flying more than 500 kilometers (310 miles). The missile was armed with a conventional, not nuclear, warhead.

    Defense officials had said last March that this missile likely would have a range of about 1,000 kilometers (620 miles) and that it might be ready for deployment within 18 months.

    COMMENT:-

    While the Russians have been violating the INF treaty for years by secretly working on banned missiles, American creativity and ingenuity has been able to produce these missiles in a mere three weeks <SARC>
    since America had conducted absolutely no development work on them until after the Russians destroyed the INF treaty by unilaterally abrogating it</SARC>.

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    Re: Pentagon conducts 1st test of previously banned missile

    I actually find it completely believable you could yank a Tomahawk launcher out of a submarine, put it on a truck, and wire it up to fire in three weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I actually find it completely believable you could yank a Tomahawk launcher out of a submarine, put it on a truck, and wire it up to fire in three weeks.
    Our salesmen here at AKME Bridge and Highway Inc. would like to talk to you.
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    Re: Pentagon conducts 1st test of previously banned missile

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    From Associated Press

    Pentagon conducts 1st test of previously banned missile


    WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military has conducted a flight test of a type of missile banned for more than 30 years by a treaty that both the United States and Russia abandoned this month, the Pentagon said.

    The test off the coast of California on Sunday marked the resumption of an arms competition that some analysts worry could increase U.S.-Russian tensions. The Trump administration has said it remains interested in useful arms control but questions Moscow’s willingness to adhere to its treaty commitments.

    The Pentagon said it tested a modified ground-launched version of a Navy Tomahawk cruise missile, which was launched from San Nicolas Island and accurately struck its target after flying more than 500 kilometers (310 miles). The missile was armed with a conventional, not nuclear, warhead.

    Defense officials had said last March that this missile likely would have a range of about 1,000 kilometers (620 miles) and that it might be ready for deployment within 18 months.

    COMMENT:-

    While the Russians have been violating the INF treaty for years by secretly working on banned missiles, American creativity and ingenuity has been able to produce these missiles in a mere three weeks <SARC>
    since America had conducted absolutely no development work on them until after the Russians destroyed the INF treaty by unilaterally abrogating it</SARC>.

    Right?

    Yes. Clearly you're not well versed in the idea of American Exceptionalism.


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    Re: Pentagon conducts 1st test of previously banned missile

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    From Associated Press

    Pentagon conducts 1st test of previously banned missile


    WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military has conducted a flight test of a type of missile banned for more than 30 years by a treaty that both the United States and Russia abandoned this month, the Pentagon said.

    The test off the coast of California on Sunday marked the resumption of an arms competition that some analysts worry could increase U.S.-Russian tensions. The Trump administration has said it remains interested in useful arms control but questions Moscow’s willingness to adhere to its treaty commitments.

    The Pentagon said it tested a modified ground-launched version of a Navy Tomahawk cruise missile, which was launched from San Nicolas Island and accurately struck its target after flying more than 500 kilometers (310 miles). The missile was armed with a conventional, not nuclear, warhead.

    Defense officials had said last March that this missile likely would have a range of about 1,000 kilometers (620 miles) and that it might be ready for deployment within 18 months.

    COMMENT:-

    While the Russians have been violating the INF treaty for years by secretly working on banned missiles, American creativity and ingenuity has been able to produce these missiles in a mere three weeks <SARC>
    since America had conducted absolutely no development work on them until after the Russians destroyed the INF treaty by unilaterally abrogating it</SARC>.

    Right?
    Probably or they were just on the drawing board. If it was a tomahawk then its a minor mod to allow it to be ground launched, its already launched from multiple platforms.
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    Re: Pentagon conducts 1st test of previously banned missile

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    Our salesmen here at AKME Bridge and Highway Inc. would like to talk to you.
    It’s a weapons system that already exists. The guidance system and flight characteristics are all in the missile, presumably unchanged. There are already air-launched and sea-launched versions. Ground based is simpler by far. You could get by with just a big metal tube welded to a truck and a wire connecting to the booster rocket.

    Edit: looking at photos, this is literally what they did. Rectangular metal tube bolted to a flatbed.
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    Re: Pentagon conducts 1st test of previously banned missile

    Eternal turn of the wheel. The arms race will escalate, again.
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    Re: Pentagon conducts 1st test of previously banned missile

    Quote Originally Posted by Obscurity View Post
    Eternal turn of the wheel. The arms race will escalate, again.
    But....there's no money for healthcare. Some people have very messed up priorities imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustHanging View Post
    But....there's no money for healthcare. Some people have very messed up priorities imo.
    I believe medicare and medicaid combined exceed the DoD budget

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    Re: Pentagon conducts 1st test of previously banned missile

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It’s a weapons system that already exists. The guidance system and flight characteristics are all in the missile, presumably unchanged. There are already air-launched and sea-launched versions. Ground based is simpler by far. You could get by with just a big metal tube welded to a truck and a wire connecting to the booster rocket.

    Edit: looking at photos, this is literally what they did. Rectangular metal tube bolted to a flatbed.
    Strangely enough, this "new system" is almost precisely what the Russians had been complaining about when they accused the US of "violating the terms of the INF treaty" by developing "ground launched" missiles that were banned by the INF treaty.

    This, however, is NOT to say that the Russians were ALSO doing the same sort of "violation".
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