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    Re: [W:711] 2/3rds of Americans want an assault weapons ban

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    I'll buy "inherent in that particular society" much more readily than I will buy "inalienable in that particular society" when it is possible, in that particular society to have "their individual rights stripped from them" REGARDLESS of why the rights can be "stripped from them".



    Good for you. I guess that felons in your state have the right NOT to be "subjected to background checks, permits, licenses, or registration" if they want to purchase firearms. Are they?



    So you would agree that it is perfectly proper for someone who is (let's say) a 50 years old doctor and minister who has spent the last 25 years providing free medical care to the indigent and who has never been convicted of any crime other than the three DUIs (the third one constituting a "felony") that they accumulated with they were 19 years old NOT to be allowed to own firearms. Correct? And, of course, being a "convicted felon" they shouldn't be allowed to vote either. Correct?
    Now you are either deliberately trolling or truly stupid, I haven't figured out which yet. You manufacture quotes I never posted and then twist what I said to mean exactly the opposite. In the event that you are not deliberately trolling, I will explain it once again in terms that a child can comprehend: Convicted felons are prohibited from owning or possessing firearms. If they are not convicted felons then they may own any firearm they desire without being infringed upon with background checks, registration, licensing, or permits. If that wasn't simple enough for you, then you are clearly a troll and not worthy of further response.

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    Re: [W:711] 2/3rds of Americans want an assault weapons ban

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    I guess that you've never heard of

    before either.
    Wait what? Not following you.
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    Re: [W:711] 2/3rds of Americans want an assault weapons ban

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    A stunning number lands in the middle of the gun debate - CNNPolitics

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    No. He doesn’t care. No one should be surprised. What is wrong with the good people of Kentucky? Nescient thinking?
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    Re: [W:711] 2/3rds of Americans want an assault weapons ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    Now you are either deliberately trolling or truly stupid, I haven't figured out which yet. You manufacture quotes I never posted and then twist what I said to mean exactly the opposite.
    I fail to see where I have "manufactured any quotes" (however if someone is not conversant with the proper use of quotation marks I could see how they might think that I had).

    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    In the event that you are not deliberately trolling, I will explain it once again in terms that a child can comprehend: Convicted felons are prohibited from owning or possessing firearms. If they are not convicted felons then they may own any firearm they desire without being infringed upon with background checks, registration, licensing, or permits.
    In short, they have an "inherent right" to "keep and bear arms" BUT that right is revocable (which means that it is NOT "inalienable").

    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    If that wasn't simple enough for you, then you are clearly a troll and not worthy of further response.
    Since, it would appear, everyone has to prove that they are NOT "a convicted felon" in order to be allowed to "keep and bear arms" in your state, could you please tell me how that can be done WITHOUT background checks? If it is necessary to do background checks to verify that someone is NOT "a convicted felon" in your state, would you please tell me how it would be possible to do those background check ONLY on someone who is "a convicted felon" and not on all persons purchasing firearms?

    Are you suggesting that it is legal, in your state, for "a convicted felon" to purchase firearms but also that it is NOT legal for them to own firearms? If so, would you please explain how that can be done?
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    Re: [W:711] 2/3rds of Americans want an assault weapons ban

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wait what? Not following you.
    Look up the history of Arm & Hammer.

    PS - I am not in the least bit surprised that someone who could write "So, a Socialist that want's to exploit capitalism for their own gain, while railing against it....Wow, never seen that before." would be unaware of historical reality.

    PPS - I would be incredibly surprised that someone who could write "So, a Socialist that want's to exploit capitalism for their own gain, while railing against it....Wow, never seen that before." would be aware of the lifetime position of Roger Howard (the long-time treasurer of British Columbia's New Democratic Party [likely seen by most Americans as "thinly disguised communists"]) which was "There is absolutely nothing wrong with making a profit. It's what you do with the profit after you make it that causes the problems.". All intelligent "socialists" are fully aware that you cannot run any business at a loss and stay in business for long.
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    Re: [W:711] 2/3rds of Americans want an assault weapons ban

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    Pro-gun people need enact some common sense gun legislation. That way the people can see they're trying to solve the problem at least.

    The number of anti-gun people is going to rise and rise and eventually, all guns will be banned.
    Let's hope so.
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    Re: [W:711] 2/3rds of Americans want an assault weapons ban

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    Look up the history of Arm & Hammer.

    PS - I am not in the least bit surprised that someone who could write "So, a Socialist that want's to exploit capitalism for their own gain, while railing against it....Wow, never seen that before." would be unaware of historical reality.

    PPS - I would be incredibly surprised that someone who could write "So, a Socialist that want's to exploit capitalism for their own gain, while railing against it....Wow, never seen that before." would be aware of the lifetime position of Roger Howard (the long-time treasurer of British Columbia's New Democratic Party [likely seen by most Americans as "thinly disguised communists"]) which was "There is absolutely nothing wrong with making a profit. It's what you do with the profit after you make it that causes the problems.". All intelligent "socialists" are fully aware that you cannot run any business at a loss and stay in business for long.
    Let me tell you something, I couldn't give two ****s less what YOU think of my beliefs...In fact it is so insignificant to me, that it makes me want to take a nap....What I do care about is your arrogant, dishonest way of injecting yourself into American politics, as if any American cares what a kanuck says anyway, ay? You should be more concerned with the problems of your own country rather than come in here and make snarky, stupid comments about mine....Got it?
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    Re: [W:711] 2/3rds of Americans want an assault weapons ban

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Let me tell you something, I couldn't give two ****s less what YOU think of my beliefs...In fact it is so insignificant to me, that it makes me want to take a nap....What I do care about is your arrogant, dishonest way of injecting yourself into American politics, as if any American cares what a kanuck says anyway, ay? You should be more concerned with the problems of your own country rather than come in here and make snarky, stupid comments about mine....Got it?
    Certainly. Some people might conclude that only an ignorant boor would make such comments, but I don't.

    The fact that you do not know what you are talking about doesn't bother me at all.

    The fact that you don't WANT to know what you are talking about does bother me somewhat, but I am consoled by the fact that it's about as likely that you would leave the United States of America as it is that a bug would crawl out from under a rock.
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    Re: [W:711] 2/3rds of Americans want an assault weapons ban

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
    Certainly. Some people might conclude that only an ignorant boor would make such comments, but I don't.

    The fact that you do not know what you are talking about doesn't bother me at all.

    The fact that you don't WANT to know what you are talking about does bother me somewhat, but I am consoled by the fact that it's about as likely that you would leave the United States of America as it is that a bug would crawl out from under a rock.
    You should take solace that you can hide within the internet...
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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