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    Re: Trump claims credit for Shell plant announced under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by bongsaway View Post
    Nothing matters to his base. If he claimed the credit, he must be responsible for it happening. Ask any of his supporters.
    He also claims credit for a veterans program that predated him.

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    Re: Trump claims credit for Shell plant announced under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    So he "sought" to take credit.. LOL

    Why is it seemingly so difficult these days for the media to just write the story without editorializing it?

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    Re: Trump claims credit for Shell plant announced under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    So he "sought" to take credit.. LOL

    Why is it seemingly so difficult these days for the media to just write the story without editorializing it?

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    “This would have never happened without me and us.” does seem to be an attempt to take credit for something - doesn't it?

    If anyone had actually believed him, then the correct phrasing would have been

    "Trump took credit for something that Obama had done.".

    If anyone had NOT actually believed him, then the correct phrasing would have been

    "Trump sought to take credit for something that Obama had done (but failed because the claim was patently false)."
    or, alternatively

    "Trump took credit for something that Obama had done, but no one believed him because it was patently obvious that he had nothing whatsoever to do with it and was merely spouting off self-aggrandizing falsehoods again. At present it is unknown if Trump was so unaware of reality that he actually knew that what he said was false or if he was simply lying in the hopes that some ignorant people would believe him."

    Which of the last two would you have preferred?
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    Re: Trump claims credit for Shell plant announced under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by SCrider View Post
    Remember all the cons calling Obama the campaigner in Chief? I wonder what they now think about Trump stealing tax payer money by turning every official event into a campaign rally?
    Oh no, it's completely different when Trump does it.

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    Re: Trump claims credit for Shell plant announced under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by SCrider View Post
    Remember all the cons calling Obama the campaigner in Chief? I wonder what they now think about Trump stealing tax payer money by turning every official event into a campaign rally?
    I remembered they got really pissed off about all his golfing too.

    But partisans have no integrity, so what was bad for Obama is good for Trump.
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    Re: Trump claims credit for Shell plant announced under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by gulfman View Post
    Trump deserves credit.It happened on his watch.
    I bought new bath towels today. Does Trump deserve credit for that too?
    “personal attorney” to Individual-1, who at that point had become the President of the United States
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    Re: Trump claims credit for Shell plant announced under Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Something being planned doesn't mean it'll be built.

    Heck, at one time Intel spent a lot of money planning to build a chip fab plant in Colorado Springs. In fact, they bought a building, put a lot of money into it and started production. They also bought a big piece of property to build the new plant. Three years later, they shut the whole thing down...built a plant in Utah or someplace.

    Moral of the story: Announcements and plans mean nothing. Construction means everything. When did construction start on this Shell plant? (hint: Nov 2017)
    What action did Trump take that influenced this project?
    “personal attorney” to Individual-1, who at that point had become the President of the United States
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