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    [W:58] President-elect says Guatemala canít do migrant deal with US

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    President-elect says Guatemala canít do migrant deal with US

    GUATEMALA CITY (AP) ó A Guatemalan immigration agreement signed with the Trump administration wonít work because the Central American nation does not have the resources, the countryís new president-elect says.

    Alejandro Giammattei, a conservative who was chosen overwhelmingly by voters in a weekend runoff election, said in an interview with The Associated Press on Tuesday that Guatemala is too poor to tend to its own people, let alone those from other countries.

    The agreement signed in July by the outgoing administration of President Jimmy Morales would require migrants from other countries who cross into Guatemala to apply for asylum here rather than in the U.S.

    ďIn order to be a safe country, one has to be certified as such by an international body, and I do not think Guatemala fulfills the requirements to be a third safe country. That definition doesnít fit us,Ē said Giammattei, a 63-year-old doctor.

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    It looks like this is yet another "deal" that has absolutely no substance (and never was intended to have any), BUT since negotiations over the "secret protocols" are still ongoing, I rather suspect that it is possible that one of the things that is under discussion is how much money the US government will be paying to the Guatemalan government every month to cover the costs of dealing with the people who are being "retained" in Guatemala (and how soon after the first missed payment "the deal" expires).

    But, then again, everyone knows that I'm a cynic.
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    re: [W:58] President-elect says Guatemala canít do migrant deal with US

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
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    President-elect says Guatemala can’t do migrant deal with US

    GUATEMALA CITY (AP) — A Guatemalan immigration agreement signed with the Trump administration won’t work because the Central American nation does not have the resources, the country’s new president-elect says.

    Alejandro Giammattei, a conservative who was chosen overwhelmingly by voters in a weekend runoff election, said in an interview with The Associated Press on Tuesday that Guatemala is too poor to tend to its own people, let alone those from other countries.

    The agreement signed in July by the outgoing administration of President Jimmy Morales would require migrants from other countries who cross into Guatemala to apply for asylum here rather than in the U.S.

    “In order to be a safe country, one has to be certified as such by an international body, and I do not think Guatemala fulfills the requirements to be a third safe country. That definition doesn’t fit us,” said Giammattei, a 63-year-old doctor.

    COMMENT:-

    It looks like this is yet another "deal" that has absolutely no substance (and never was intended to have any), BUT since negotiations over the "secret protocols" are still ongoing, I rather suspect that it is possible that one of the things that is under discussion is how much money the US government will be paying to the Guatemalan government every month to cover the costs of dealing with the people who are being "retained" in Guatemala (and how soon after the first missed payment "the deal" expires).

    But, then again, everyone knows that I'm a cynic.
    They can't do that! A newly-elected President can't renege on an agreement made by his predecessor!
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    re: [W:58] President-elect says Guatemala canít do migrant deal with US

    How come Canada doesn't take this flood of refugees in? I thought you were supposed to be the nice guys?

    Just give the word and we'll send you 100,000 of them.

    The president of Guatemala is trying to shake us down for money.

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    re: [W:58] President-elect says Guatemala canít do migrant deal with US

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    How come Canada doesn't take this flood of refugees in? I thought you were supposed to be the nice guys?

    Just give the word and we'll send you 100,000 of them.

    The president of Guatemala is trying to shake us down for money.
    Canada has taken in about 60,000 Syrian refugees since 2015 (I think). Seamlessly. And we can't handle the number of refugees crossing from the USA already. So you'll have to solve this yourselves.
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    re: [W:58] President-elect says Guatemala canít do migrant deal with US

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Canada has taken in about 60,000 Syrian refugees since 2015 (I think). Seamlessly. And we can't handle the number of refugees crossing from the USA already. So you'll have to solve this yourselves.
    We took in Syrian refugees too. That was then, this is now.

    Why doesn't Canada take in 100,000 Honduran refugees?

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    re: [W:58] President-elect says Guatemala canít do migrant deal with US

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    They can't do that! A newly-elected President can't renege on an agreement made by his predecessor!
    Can he?
    Sure he can, I guess. It's irrelevant because our president can damn sure cut off the $300 million a year that we give to Guatemala. I bet that'll change their tune.
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    re: [W:58] President-elect says Guatemala canít do migrant deal with US

    Quote Originally Posted by TU Curmudgeon View Post
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    President-elect says Guatemala can’t do migrant deal with US

    GUATEMALA CITY (AP) — A Guatemalan immigration agreement signed with the Trump administration won’t work because the Central American nation does not have the resources, the country’s new president-elect says.

    Alejandro Giammattei, a conservative who was chosen overwhelmingly by voters in a weekend runoff election, said in an interview with The Associated Press on Tuesday that Guatemala is too poor to tend to its own people, let alone those from other countries.

    The agreement signed in July by the outgoing administration of President Jimmy Morales would require migrants from other countries who cross into Guatemala to apply for asylum here rather than in the U.S.

    “In order to be a safe country, one has to be certified as such by an international body, and I do not think Guatemala fulfills the requirements to be a third safe country. That definition doesn’t fit us,” said Giammattei, a 63-year-old doctor.

    COMMENT:-

    It looks like this is yet another "deal" that has absolutely no substance (and never was intended to have any), BUT since negotiations over the "secret protocols" are still ongoing, I rather suspect that it is possible that one of the things that is under discussion is how much money the US government will be paying to the Guatemalan government every month to cover the costs of dealing with the people who are being "retained" in Guatemala (and how soon after the first missed payment "the deal" expires).

    But, then again, everyone knows that I'm a cynic.
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    re: [W:58] President-elect says Guatemala canít do migrant deal with US

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    They can't do that! A newly-elected President can't renege on an agreement made by his predecessor!
    Can he?


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    re: [W:58] President-elect says Guatemala canít do migrant deal with US

    Their court had already said they couldn't do it.

    Now their incoming president says they can't do it.



    So, yeah, more smoke blowing by our xenophobia-pushing-screw-up-in-chief.

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    re: [W:58] President-elect says Guatemala canít do migrant deal with US

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    They can't do that! A newly-elected President can't renege on an agreement made by his predecessor!
    Can he?
    We could ask Trump.
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