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Tulsi Gabbard to report for active duty in Indonesia for 2 weeks

Buttigieg had a great line in the most recent debate about wanting to, as a war veteran, debate Trump, a draft dodger. I think that would appeal to a lot of people.

And I bet the majority of the people who that would appeal to are the same people who didn't care about that type of stuff at all when it was Bill Clinton debating an actual war hero Bush
 
I know all about those troops. I served with some of them. Political officers like Gabbards don't amount to the **** on the heel of their boots. Take your righteous indignation somewhere else.

Really because you just said that since she was NG it's summer camp. It doesn't sound like you know much at all. No actual Soldier would make such a claim.
 
And I bet the majority of the people who that would appeal to are the same people who didn't care about that type of stuff at all when it was Bill Clinton debating an actual war hero Bush

Bush's term wasn't very successful or sexy. I think his poor performance, while in office and during his second campaign, outweighed his military service for a lot of voters.
 
What unit was Obama in?


None, not serving was not the point, being a despicable human being is. To wit:

"Bone Spurs", "fornicating with porn star just after newly wed wife give birth" "Committing felony campaign Fraud".


Etc., IS.


But, of course, the right doesn't care though they would have if the had been on the other foot.

The right is a cesspool of hypocrisy.
 
I admit to having to side-eye Tulsi Gabbard from the start. It was nothing specific, I just had a sense that something about her wasn't quite right. Maybe it's the way she speaks, she's almost robotic. But then I read more about her and decided she doesn't fit into this race at all. I think she's doing it strictly to get a particular agenda across to people and that agenda doesn't really fit in with U.S. foreign policy, as a matter of fact it's entirely inconsistent with U.S. foreign policy.

Tulsi Gabbard Thinks We’re Doomed - The New York Times

[snip]The threat from Russia is severely exaggerated, Ms. Gabbard says. Do not beat the drums of war with Iran. Make nice with North Korea.

She flew to Syria in 2017 and had what seemed to be a friendly meeting with Bashar al-Assad, shocking her colleagues in Congress, and voted against a House resolution condemning the dictator’s war crimes. More recently, she said Mr. Assad was “not the enemy of the United States.”[/snip]

How man men or women serving in Congress is allowed to fly to Syrian for a face to face 'friendly' meeting with Bashar al-Assad -- one of the most ruthless dictators and human rights abuser in the Middle East? In 2017, al-Assad was dropping chlorine gas bombs on his own civilians. Remember the little boy in the ambulance in Aleppo? He was injured by an air strike by al-Assad's air force. That incident came to the attention of the public in 2017 also. Tulsi Gabbard claims she went on a ‘fact-finding’ mission in support of ‘peace’ for Syrian people, but characterized US-backed rebels as ‘terrorists’.

The U.S.has no diplomatic relations with Syria. Gabbard’s trip raised alarms over a potential violation of the Logan Act, a federal statute barring unauthorized individuals from conferring with a foreign government involved in a dispute with the US. The US currently has no diplomatic relations with Syria.

It's all pretty stinky to me and I'd never even consider her a logical candidate for any party.

She's from Hawai'i. Her speech pattern is the classic result of locals attempting to mask their pidgen accent so that mainlanders take them seriously.
 
Bush's term wasn't very successful or sexy. I think his poor performance, while in office and during his second campaign, outweighed his military service for a lot of voters.

None of that changes the fact that many on the left didn't care what so ever that Clinton did everything possible to avoid serving his country and yet those same people constantly attack Trump for doing the same.
 
None of that changes the fact that many on the left didn't care what so ever that Clinton did everything possible to avoid serving his country and yet those same people constantly attack Trump for doing the same.

Does this mean attack Trump for doing everything possible to avoid serving his country? Just checking here...
 
None of that changes the fact that many on the left didn't care what so ever that Clinton did everything possible to avoid serving his country and yet those same people constantly attack Trump for doing the same.

Only about 2 percent of the population serve in the military. But if you didn't serve then don't get up there and make statements like this:
"I know more about ISIS than the generals do. Believe me. I would bomb the [ bleep ] out of them. (Applause) I would just bomb those suckers. And, that's right, I'd blow up the pipe, I'd blow up the re -- I'd blow up every single inch. There would be nothing left.

So he got out of the draft and it is what it is. But don't go around pretending to be Rambo now.


Trump: ‘I Know More About ISIS than the Generals Do, Believe Me’ :: Grabien - The Multimedia Marketplace
 
It was sarcasm. High level executive experience in business, as William F Buckley once exclaimed, is not the same thing as experience in government nor does it demonstrate one would be successful running a country.

Besides, Trump never had "high level executive experience", his company is a small mom and pop shop (over a consortium of shell companies) which he ran by the seat of his pants, whereas, Tillerson, on the other hand, ran Exxon, a large corporation.

sigh. More whatabout Trump? Can't the left respond with anything else?
 
All scumbags and/or idiots.

Several of them are. At least one (Booker) is just plain nuts. And I certainly don't agree with many of their policies. I was just speaking in terms of having a minimal level of experience to prepare them for the job.
 
As Trump demonstrates, Americans don't particularly care about qualifications in their presidents.

More whatabout Trump?

But yes, Trump and Obama prove that. Neither were qualified when they were voted into the office.
 
Buttigieg had a great line in the most recent debate about wanting to, as a war veteran, debate Trump, a draft dodger. I think that would appeal to a lot of people.

As a career military man, I don't think military services is a big deal when it comes to qualifications for the presidency. After all, the military is under civilian control. It's far more important to have excellent people, advisors around you that you can listen to for advice and recommendations that know whats going on and has vital experience.

I seen Republicans jumping all over Bill Clinton for no military experience, being a draft evader. Now it's the Democrats turn to dump on Trump. I may not like Trump much, but his lack of military experience has nothing to do with my dislike of him.
 
Does this mean attack Trump for doing everything possible to avoid serving his country? Just checking here...

Yes it does and it's one of the many reasons I think Trump is a giant POS and an embarrassment to this country.
 
Only about 2 percent of the population serve in the military. But if you didn't serve then don't get up there and make statements like this:

So he got out of the draft and it is what it is. But don't go around pretending to be Rambo now.


Trump: ‘I Know More About ISIS than the Generals Do, Believe Me’ :: Grabien - The Multimedia Marketplace

Yes Trump is a loud mouth idiot nothing new there.

Still doesn't change the hypocrisy of those who supported Clinton but attack Trump over avoiding the draft.
 
As a career military man, I don't think military services is a big deal when it comes to qualifications for the presidency. After all, the military is under civilian control. It's far more important to have excellent people, advisors around you that you can listen to for advice and recommendations that know whats going on and has vital experience.

I seen Republicans jumping all over Bill Clinton for no military experience, being a draft evader. Now it's the Democrats turn to dump on Trump. I may not like Trump much, but his lack of military experience has nothing to do with my dislike of him.

Very well said. Pretty much sums up my thoughts on the whole thing.
 
In order to restore some civility in politics, all Americans should commend Representative Gabbard for her patriotic duty in the National Guard.


We should avoid casting any aspersions.


The last two and a half years in American politics on both sides of the aisle have been sickening and a disgrace to our country.


No wonder so many of our children behave so badly. They are getting their cues from their "elders."
 
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