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Graham: New Bruce Ohr docs show FISA warrant against ex-Trump campaign aide a 'fraud'

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"Here's what we're looking at: Systematic corruption at the highest level of the Department of Justice and the FBI against President Trump ...

On Thursday evening, newly released records obtained by Fox News showed the FBI formally documented the bias of Steele shortly after the November 2016 presidential election, yet continued to use his unverified dossier in multiple FISA court warrant application renewals.


The documents, first obtained by Judicial Watch, also reveal that top Justice Department official Bruce Ohr maintained contact with Steele for at least six months after Steele was fired by the FBI for unauthorized media contacts in November 2016.

Graham: New Bruce Ohr docs show FISA warrant against ex-Trump campaign aide a '''fraud''' | Fox News
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The razor edged boomerang is coming back at the Democrats.

 
zimmer said:
The razor edged boomerang is coming back at the Democrats.

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I'll wait until a media source other than the Propaganda wing of Trump Enterprises makes a call on this.

FOX News is not a reputable source.

Fox News - Media Bias/Fact Check
When it comes to sourcing they typically utilize pro-Trump pundits such as Rush Limbaugh who has a very poor record with fact checkers,
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FNC has also been deemed the least accurate cable news source according to Politifact.
 
JustHanging said:
I'll wait until a media source other than the Propaganda wing of Trump Enterprises makes a call on this.

FOX News is not a reputable source.

Fox News - Media Bias/Fact Check
When it comes to sourcing they typically utilize pro-Trump pundits such as Rush Limbaugh who has a very poor record with fact checkers,
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FNC has also been deemed the least accurate cable news source according to Politifact.
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Instead of lame killing-the-messenger, why not just look at the Bruce Ohr documents obtained by Judicial Watch? JW v DOJ Ohr 302s 02107 | Judicial Watch
 
JustHanging said:
I'll wait until a media source other than the Propaganda wing of Trump Enterprises makes a call on this.

FOX News is not a reputable source.

Fox News - Media Bias/Fact Check
When it comes to sourcing they typically utilize pro-Trump pundits such as Rush Limbaugh who has a very poor record with fact checkers,
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FNC has also been deemed the least accurate cable news source according to Politifact.
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And Politifact is deemed a hyper partisan and unreliable source by others.

So debunk the Fox News report if you can. We won't be holding our breath because it will take you a very long time.
(P.S. Rush is featured on so teensy a portion of Fox News reporting he in no way could even be listed as a contributor. The other leftwing sources probably show more video and more of his content in their efforts to use him as an example of whatever it is they are trashing on any given day.)
 
Oh my... you mean Christopher Steele is biased? So biased reporting should not be trusted? Duly noted, Fox News-watchers.
 
AlbqOwl said:
And Politifact is deemed a hyper partisan and unreliable source by others.

So debunk the Fox News report if you can. We won't be holding our breath because it will take you a very long time.
(P.S. Rush is featured on so teensy a portion of Fox News reporting he in no way could even be listed as a contributor. The other leftwing sources probably show more video and more of his content in their efforts to use him as an example of whatever it is they are trashing on any given day.)
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Or, you know, everybody could just read the Ohr documents now available. Link posted above.
 
zimmer said:
The razor edged boomerang is coming back at the Democrats.

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Bruce Ohr has been in the crosshairs of "The Federalist" and Judicial Watch for quite some time now:

. . .Of all of the high-priced ads Clinton commissioned to take down Donald Trump from her war chest of $1.4 billion, none was as effective as the one that really counted: the Trump-Russia collusion hoax. For the low price of $44,000, Clinton campaign subcontractor Fusion GPS hired Nellie Ohr, the wife of a senior Department of Justice attorney, to “consult” on the Russia research Clinton commissioned.

Credit Hillary Clinton for being a thrifty shopper. As a bonus and at no extra charge, Nellie Ohr’s husband, senior DOJ attorney Bruce Ohr, successfully promoted his wife’s research to the FBI. The FBI relied upon the indispensable credibility of husband Ohr’s status as a senior DOJ attorney vouching for the hoax to launch an investigation in July of 2016. $44,000? What a steal! In a climate where it’s practically impossible not to become rich promoting the Trump-Russia hoax (here, here, here, and here), the Ohrs are the best value around.

Shouldn’t We Prohibit That?
Honest Americans might say, “There ought to be a law prohibiting a Justice Department official from using his official position to sponsor his wife’s political opposition research to the FBI.” Congress has already passed at least two such laws. The first is 18 U.S.C. § 208, which says:

whoever, being an officer or employee of the executive branch of the United States [who] participates personally and substantially as a Government officer [in] the rendering of advice [or] investigation [regarding] a controversy, charge, accusation, arrest, or other particular matter in which, to his knowledge, he [or] his spouse, has any arrangement concerning prospective employment [or] has a financial interest…shall be subject to [imprisonment] of not more than one year…or five years if [the subject] willfully engages in the conduct.

The second statute, 5 U.S.C. § 7323 provides, that an employee may not “use his official authority or influence for the purpose of interfering with or affecting the result of an election.” . . .

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Keeping Bruce Ohr At DOJ Makes A Mockery Of Rosenstein's Integrity

And it is time to remind everybody that the I.G.'s investigation in part and John Durham's investigation, both in progress, were to look into this very kind of thing, most especially what prompted the whole Russian collusion hoax to begin with.
 
When you get right down to it, it doesn't matter if our fellow forum members refuse to consider factual evidence of Obama administration corruption. It doesn't matter at all.

Think about it...these Ohr 302's have a lot of redacted stuff in them. We don't know exactly what is redacted...but someone knows. That someone is Barr and Durham.

Barr can declassify this redacted stuff and release it to the public. If/when he does, there will be no refusing to consider this information.

Durham has the full power of the Justice Department behind him. He can convene grand juries. He can bring charges. He can take people to trial for criminal offenses.

Between the two of them, those corrupt Obama administration pukes are in great jeopardy.

Be patient folks. The hammer will fall. (and it won't fall on Trump)
 
So what are these illegal actions the Trumpcult is foaming at the mouth over?
 
PeteEU said:
Because they are "obtained" by Judicial Watch?
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Thank you for making my point. The source doesn't matter; the documents are what they are...which you can see for yourself by simply clicking on the link I've provided.

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zimmer said:
The razor edged boomerang is coming back at the Democrats.

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Yawn....Yes the FISA Judges were told the Steele's dossier might be biased. Now you are treating it as a revelation when previously the claim was they were NOT informed. This is even more idiotic than Benghazi. The irony is that much of the dossier has now been verified and Steele was the first to reveal the depth of the Russians interference and their preference for Trump.

Cillizza: Now to Page. Tell us the toplines of what we learned from the released documents.
Doss: The most important things we learned are that: 1) the government relied on information developed over the course of several years 2) the Steele dossier was only part of the information relied on by the FBI 3) the government informed the FISC that the dossier information had been developed for the purpose of discrediting then-candidate Donald Trump's political campaign and 4) each time that the application was renewed, the government submitted enough evidence that an impartial federal judge believed there was probable cause to allow the government to continue its investigation.
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Carter Page, FISA and Donald Trump: Everything you need to know - CNNPolitics
 
nota bene said:
Thank you for making my point. The source doesn't matter; the documents are what they are...which you can see for yourself by simply clicking on the link I've provided.

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Some of us are busy with daily activities and don't have the time to go through documents atm. Got a summary of the damning revelations?
 
Mycroft said:
When you get right down to it, it doesn't matter if our fellow forum members refuse to consider factual evidence of Obama administration corruption. It doesn't matter at all.

Think about it...these Ohr 302's have a lot of redacted stuff in them. We don't know exactly what is redacted...but someone knows. That someone is Barr and Durham.

Barr can declassify this redacted stuff and release it to the public. If/when he does, there will be no refusing to consider this information.

Durham has the full power of the Justice Department behind him. He can convene grand juries. He can bring charges. He can take people to trial for criminal offenses.

Between the two of them, those corrupt Obama administration pukes are in great jeopardy.

Be patient folks. The hammer will fall. (and it won't fall on Trump)
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LOL No matter how hard Trump tries to make a monkey trial of former Obama officials he will be thwarted by the Judiciary for the total lack of evidence. It's a joke and not a funny one.
 
iguanaman said:
This is even more idiotic than Benghazi. The irony is that much of the dossier has now been verified and Steele was the first to reveal the depth of the Russians interference and their preference for Trump.
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Yeah, the Trumpcult has yet to present proof of anything in the Steele Dossier being false. They think we're dumb enough to take them at their word.
 
nota bene said:
Thank you for making my point. The source doesn't matter; the documents are what they are...which you can see for yourself by simply clicking on the link I've provided.

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That is only if you trust Judicial Watch not doctoring said documents..
 
Mycroft said:
When you get right down to it, it doesn't matter if our fellow forum members refuse to consider factual evidence of Obama administration corruption. It doesn't matter at all.

Think about it...these Ohr 302's have a lot of redacted stuff in them. We don't know exactly what is redacted...but someone knows. That someone is Barr and Durham.

Barr can declassify this redacted stuff and release it to the public. If/when he does, there will be no refusing to consider this information.

Durham has the full power of the Justice Department behind him. He can convene grand juries. He can bring charges. He can take people to trial for criminal offenses.

Between the two of them, those corrupt Obama administration pukes are in great jeopardy.

Be patient folks. The hammer will fall. (and it won't fall on Trump)
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Of course it doesn't matter what forum members "consider" and neither do the wet dreams matter of other forum members as they wait for Durham who will disappoint even more than Mueller disappointed.
 
PeteEU said:
That is only if you trust Judicial Watch not doctoring said documents..
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LMMFAO... You can't be serious?

Those are official government documents that Judicial Watch sued the federal government to get. How desperate you must be to want all this to go away, that you would suggest that Judicial Watch would doctor government documents that they went through the courts to obtain.

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Grim17 said:
LMMFAO... You can't be serious?

Those are official government documents that Judicial Watch sued the federal government to get. How desperate you must be to want all this to go away, that you would suggest that Judicial Watch would doctor government documents that they went through the courts to obtain.

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And who says they are relaying them accurately? Is there a chain of evidence or something similar?
 
Geoist said:
Some of us are busy with daily activities and don't have the time to go through documents atm. Got a summary of the damning revelations?
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Slow reader? It took me about 10 minutes to read all of the 302's.
 
JackA said:
Of course it doesn't matter what forum members "consider" and neither do the wet dreams matter of other forum members as they wait for Durham who will disappoint even more than Mueller disappointed.
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Yes...hold onto that for dear life.
 
Mycroft said:
Slow reader? It took me about 10 minutes to read all of the 302's.
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Then I'm sure you won't mind relaying the damning statements and evidence of illegal actions.
 
Geoist said:
Yeah, the Trumpcult has yet to present proof of anything in the Steele Dossier being false. They think we're dumb enough to take them at their word.
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Actually, the claim in the dossier that Cohen went to Prague has been proven false.

But you have it backwards. Trump doesn't have to prove the dossier is false. Someone has to prove it is correct. Nobody has done that.

It's pretty certain, though, that you are dumb enough to believe the dossier without any such proof. That you are dumb enough to take Steele at his word.
 
Geoist said:
Then I'm sure you won't mind relaying the damning statements and evidence of illegal actions.
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Nah. I'll leave that up to the Justice Department and the courts.

Be patient.
 
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