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Jeffrey Epstein, accused sex trafficker, dies by suicide: Officials

SenorXm/Sirius said:
Clintons were invited to Trump's 2005 wedding.. 2005!!! Which means him and Bill were good friends earlier, and in the 90's.. The 90's when much of Epstein's 'trips' with his clients to pedophile island and his place in Manhattan were going on.

Now it's being reported Trump was on 1 of those plane trips to that island in the 90's.... Clinton was on those trips too.... Hmmmmm..
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I think it was reported that Trump was on Epstein's jet on a trip from Palm Springs to New Jersey in 1997 and not on a trip to one of his islands. Where did you read the above?

eta: Source: New Epstein flight logs show Trump flew on his plane in 1997
 
Superfly said:
I would. I thought the same thing.
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Wouldn't expect such pearl clutching from someone with your avatar, but life is about disappointment.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Clintons were invited to Trump's 2005 wedding.. 2005!!! Which means him and Bill were good friends earlier, and in the 90's.. The 90's when much of Epstein's 'trips' with his clients to pedophile island and his place in Manhattan were going on.

Now it's being reported Trump was on 1 of those plane trips to that island in the 90's.... Clinton was on those trips too.... Hmmmmm..
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I’m telling you - they are all bundled together. When it all comes out in the wash, will Trump supporters still stand behind him if they find out he is guilty? Remember Roy Moore almost won his Senate race. The right are a forgiving bunch, as long as you are on their side politically.
 
ocean515 said:
To a degree.

Although the current crop, along with the media they cling to, have redefined the practice, and reached new levels of aggression never thought possible before.
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Do you speak of the LEFT obsessed or the RIGHT obsessed, or, as I would and imagine you would, honestly, both the RIGHT and LEFT obsessed?
 
hanger4 said:
You went off the deep end with;

"or been pardoned by Obese Donald."

Seeing as we know nothing more than he is dead, or may not, you're in full conspiracy mode.
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And?

What is the fun of conspiracy mode if one isn't in full conspiracy mode?

Sheesh!
 
SkyFox76 said:
This just has all the right pieces to throw in the air and they fall in place.

Pedophile who managed to escape prison the first time, falls back behind bars and is eventually found with marks on his neck, which he claims was done by other inmates. Pedo is then placed on suicide watch and two weeks later dies of "cardiac arrest".

Guard/s who were watching him admit they only turned their backs for a minute and immediately offered medical aid to revive him. Both are quickly fired and then one of two endings.

A year from now they are found living the good life from an unexpected "uncle" leaving them an inheritance.

A year from now they're found working as rent a cops at a strip mall because that rich "uncle" was lying when he said: go ahead a take a bathroom break, I'll make sure it's worth your time.
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Ayup! :2wave:
 
Chomsky said:
Exactly.

Trump would have moved Epstein to a protected facility under fed control or influence, as he did to protect & silence Manafort. If there was anything nefarious about this, it is much more likely Trump related via his Putting/Russian NY mob connections. Hell, Trump used to party with Epstein in his mansion, which was the scene of most of the NY State crimes.
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Well put and spot on!
 
Superfly said:
I’m absolutely crushed that you are disappointed in me. Crushed, I tell ya.

:lol:
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As crushed as I am that you and HumblePi are offended by a mild joke about a guy who did really horrible things to little girls, a joke which reflects what pretty much everyone in the thread is saying: that it wasn't a suicide.

Oh, well. That's what they make fainting couches for. You'll soft-land.
 
eohrnberger said:
How much longer will there be sufficient trust for the American experiment continue successfully?
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When you understand you definitely shouldn't trust fox or Rush, etc...paid entertainers that don't even try to hide the fact that they peddle in B.S. to push right win politics...let me know and we can talk like adults.
 
lurchadams said:
Yeah, no way was it suicide, IMO. I'm also guessing whatever surveillance video that exists is going to be magically destroyed.
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I cannot make such strong comments. I think he also tried before to commit suicide (they found him injured and he was at some point on a suicide watch), and frankly I can easily see how a person who was used to be among the "masters" of the world could not handle this change of fortune.

BUT, I also think that it is veryyyy plausible that because many powerful people were interested in his demise to end the criminal investigation, that they could exploit his state of mind and give him the opportunity he needed to commit suicide. The fact that he was not on a suicide watch is veryyy suspicious. Now, this could be a result of Epstein bribing some guards but it could also be a result of decisions from other people.
 
lurchadams said:
The Federal case is done. The civil cases will continue against his estate.
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But there are a lot of wealthy and powerful men breathing a huge sign of relief today, and I have no doubt some 1959 Dom Perignon will be opened tonight in honor of the fantastic stroke of luck they have just had.
 
Boy how convenient... They took him off suicide watch? WHAT?



Josh Lederman
‏Verified account @JoshNBCNews


Multiple officials tell @NBCNews that Epstein had been on suicide watch but was taken off suicide watch prior to his apparent death by suicide this morning

https://twitter.com/JoshNBCNews/status/1160222224793636864
 
If it's suicide * cough * then he would surely have been on some sort of suicide watch after the events at the end of July onwards , so what went wrong ?

Recall Chelsea Manning spent a long time naked due to being on a suicide watch , allegedly. How was Epstein able to succeed under a similar regime ?

The difference ?

Manning was held as a national traitor and thus kept alive so as to face the music for their actions and Epstein , well , he probably had a lot of info about the rich and powerful that has died with him. How convenient is that ?
 
Superfly said:
I’m telling you - they are all bundled together. When it all comes out in the wash, will Trump supporters still stand behind him if they find out he is guilty? Remember Roy Moore almost won his Senate race. The right are a forgiving bunch, as long as you are on their side politically.
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Yep. If Trump and Clinton are involved in this to hell with politics, Trump will do anything he can to protect Clinton. And vice versa.. And because they were both friends back then.....And given both of their history's with women... . It's not a stretch to think they both involved with Epstein.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Yep. If Trump and Clinton are involved in this to hell with politics, Trump will do anything he can to protect Clinton. And vice versa.. And because they were both friends back then.....And given both of their history's with women... . It's not a stretch to think they both involved with Epstein.
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Yeah. I don't give a **** about the partisan politics; I want anyone and everyone involved to be held to account.
 
For a guy who was born in Brooklyn to a father who worked for the city as a grounds keeper and gardener and a mother who worked as a part time aide in public schools and a homemaker. At the age of 5 he was an accomplished pianist. At the age of 16 he graduated high school skipping 2 grades and that same year enrolled in college. He dropped out his final year and then went on to teach mathematics and physics at Dalton where wealthy people send their kids. There he meets wealthy parents, Some were big wigs at Bear Sterns, they offer him a job. It was an assistant to a floor trader but in a short period of time he was handling the wealthy clients at Bear Stearns. After his stint there he branched out on his own. He had built up a relationship with some of the wealthiest people in the world. The only known client prior to his arrest in Florida was Les Wexner owner and CEO of L Brands which includes Victoria Secret and Bath and Body Works.

Wexner is of interest to me because he lives here in Central Ohio in New Albany NE of Columbus. I learned today that Wexner gave Epstein power of Atty. over his entire finances. The town of New Albany before Wexner built his mansion there was just a little town but Wexner bought up a lot of acreage and developed it into one of the richest, wealthiest communities in Ohio. And who oversaw the development? Epstein. When it was first being developed, the Parade of Homes was held there one year. I went and the houses were spectacular. Of course Wexner's mansion was covered in the society pages. The formal dining room in his house is an elevator. The restaurant style kitchen used for entertaining is located in the lower level far away from the guests. The floor of the dining room moves down to the kitchen area where it is set for each individual course. It returns with each course already served. Someone spill wine during the first course? No problem, linens are changed and the table is completely reset for the next course. Wexner has charities and has been involved at Ohio State for years. This past week because of all the publicity he has received he sent a letters out to those involved in his charities claiming he foolishly trusted Epstein and claimed when he was facing charges in Florida he ended the relationship. He went on to state that after the relationship ended he discovered that Epstein had misappropriated 40 some million of the Wexner families personal wealth. He says in the letter he was able to retrieve some of it.

You know when you read stuff like this it is easy to see how conspiracy theories could get started but you have to shake your head and wonder how on earth could Wexner give someone outside his family or other life long business partners power of atty over everything? That just doesn't make sense.
 
uptower said:
Jesus here we go again.

It was most likely suicide. If he was bumped off, it would have to be by someone in power. The Clintons have no power.
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Trump does. :lol: Trump seemed to spend a lot more time with Epstein than Clinton did.


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