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Trump condemns ‘white supremacy,’ calls for mental health and gun reforms after double mass shooting

Yes, because of course if he had used "I" instead, the TDS crowd would be whining about how egotistical he is and how he's using a tragedy to try to improve his image instead of bringing the country together like Obama would have done... yadda yadda yadda.

Apparently the TDS crowd, those who stand against Trump's blatant racism instead of supporting it, are in the majority.

Fox News'''s Own Poll Found That a Majority Think Trump'''s Racist Tweets Went "Too Far" | GQ


Of course, some of Trump's base loves racist attacks:

Republican support for Trump rises after racially charged tweets: Reuters/Ipsos poll - Reuters


America is finally accepting the POTUS is a racist. Those trying defend Trump's blatant racism are just preaching to the choir.
 
Good thing his writers wrote the speech, otherwise we would have probably heard more of this.

Yep. It looks like he believed he couldn't go off script.

Trump has left no doubt that he is a racist. Those denying it are just preaching to the choir.

National (US) Poll - July 30, 2019 - Trump Is Racist, Half Of U.S. | Quinnipiac University Connecticut
President Donald Trump is racist, American voters say 51 - 45 percent in a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today.

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"While half of voters think President Donald Trump is racist, religion shows an even bigger divide. Only 21 percent of white Evangelicals believe the President is racist. Compare that to 63 percent of voters who don't affiliate with any organized religion," said Mary Snow, polling analyst for the Quinnipiac University Poll.
 
Trump condemns ‘white supremacy,’ calls for mental health and gun reforms after double mass shootings



The president says they've done a lot but much more needs to be done, mostly preventative and deterent in nature.

Among his proposals, the president

1) calls for red-flag laws to allow the seizure of firearms from those judged to pose a grave risk to public safety.

2) calls for "cultural" changes, citing violent video games.

3) calls on the Justice Department to propose legislation ensuring that those commit hate crimes and mass murders "face the death penalty and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay.

4) endorses policing the "dark recesses of the Internet" in a bid to catch mass murderers before they act; 8chan?

5) calls DOJ to work in partnership with local, state, and federal agencies and social media companies to develop tools to identify mass shooters before they strike.

6) calls others to stop the glorification of violence in our society; grisly video games.
He says, "It is too easy for troubled youth to surround themselves with a culture that celebrates violence. We must stop or substantially reduce this and it has to begin immediately."

Of course with minutes of delivering his address to the nation where Trump calls
the shooting in El Paso “tragic” and an “act of cowardice," Cory Booker calls him weak and wrong. :roll:

Cory Booker@CoryBooker
"The president is weak. And wrong.

White supremacy is not a mental illness, and guns are a tool that white supremacists use to fulfill their hate."

Of course trump's big solution is to become a dictatorship.
 
A study of Connecticut homicide rates going back to the mid-1980s concludes that the state’s 1995 permit-to-purchase gun law cut handgun-related homicides by 40 percent.

The study by Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research, a part of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, found there were 296 fewer gun deaths in the 10 years after the law’s passage than would have occurred had it not been approved.

The 1995 law required individuals seeking to purchase handguns to apply in person to police for a permit. It required background checks even for those buying handguns privately — closing the so-called “gun-show loophole.’’ It also raised the minimum age for handgun purchases from 18 to 21 and required at least eight hours of safety training.

Study: Gun-permit law cut homicides 40 percent - Connecticut Post



This gun law they passed in Connecticut reduced the homicide rate there by 40%. It's only directed at handguns but it could include rifles too. You have to go visit the police to get a permit and take a safety course.


And the "gun restraining order" where your family can go to a judge, and if the judge agrees, get a restraining order that bans you from being anywhere near a gun.

These two laws aren't going to be 100% effective, but if we cut down mass shootings by 40% or more, it's a good thing.

And these laws won't change the lives of 99.99999% of gun owners, other than having to fill out a bit more paper work.

I'm not sure banning hand guns will prevent mass shooters from killing.
They don't usually use handguns.
The 1995 CT. hand gun law hasn't stopped mass killings.


Btw, we already have federal universal background checks.
NICS checks are only as good as the people who are doing these check.

Federal law imposes various duties on federally licensed firearms dealers. Firearms dealers must, among other things:

Perform background checks on prospective firearm purchasers.
Maintain records of all gun sales.
Make those records available to law enforcement for inspection.
Report certain multiple sales.
Report the theft or loss of a firearm from the licensee’s inventory.16 Federal law imposes none of these requirements on unlicensed sellers, however.

Universal Background Checks | Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence
 
Ddebunked, due to fixing the problems with ONE city, New Haven.

Gun control had nothing to do with CRIME reduction.



"The study by Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research, a part of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, found there were 296 fewer gun deaths in the 10 years after the law’s passage than would have occurred had it not been approved."

I think the scientists at Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research, a part of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, beg to differ.
 
Trump condemns ‘white supremacy,’ calls for mental health and gun reforms after double mass shootings



The president says they've done a lot but much more needs to be done, mostly preventative and deterent in nature.

Among his proposals, the president

1) calls for red-flag laws to allow the seizure of firearms from those judged to pose a grave risk to public safety.

2) calls for "cultural" changes, citing violent video games.

3) calls on the Justice Department to propose legislation ensuring that those commit hate crimes and mass murders "face the death penalty and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay.

4) endorses policing the "dark recesses of the Internet" in a bid to catch mass murderers before they act; 8chan?

5) calls DOJ to work in partnership with local, state, and federal agencies and social media companies to develop tools to identify mass shooters before they strike.

6) calls others to stop the glorification of violence in our society; grisly video games.
He says, "It is too easy for troubled youth to surround themselves with a culture that celebrates violence. We must stop or substantially reduce this and it has to begin immediately."

Of course with minutes of delivering his address to the nation where Trump calls
the shooting in El Paso “tragic” and an “act of cowardice," Cory Booker calls him weak and wrong. :roll:

Cory Booker@CoryBooker
"The president is weak. And wrong.

White supremacy is not a mental illness, and guns are a tool that white supremacists use to fulfill their hate."

According to the OP:

Two proposals for dealing with violent video games.

Zero proposals for dealing with White Supremacist groups.


Yeah, that's really attacking White Supremacists alrighty. When does he plan to get around to it? After dealing with Call of Duty?
 
He needs to stop encouraging the hate and if he was serious about better gun control he would push McConnell to pass the two bills that he has been sitting on or at least bring them up for a vote. That would show me he is serious.

The people who are encouraging hate are those who keep twisting his words out of oblivion. For instance, Trump when addressing the nation said, "We must stop the glorification of violence in this society" How will the leftist media pundits, their lackeys, the far left echo machine, the chronic resistors, those running against him, bastardize his words by the end of this week? Stay tuned...

If Trump's haters are not a part of the solution, they are part of the problem.
 

After he's finished supporting it for three years. The only people believing this are the people who think Trump University gave them their money's worth.

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Yes, because of course if he had used "I" instead, the TDS crowd would be whining about how egotistical he is and how he's using a tragedy to try to improve his image instead of bringing the country together like Obama would have done... yadda yadda yadda.

This is going to be an interesting thread...

"Hate has no place in our country." ~ President DJT
 
Full disclosure, I disagree with almost every policy initiative that Trump brought up today. They are far closer to Democrat policy than they are to conservative (but, as I keep saying, Trump isn't conservative)

I think if the Democrats want to actually make something of this tragedy other than votes, they would be better served addressing the Democrat friendly, big state solutions that Trump is offering rather than make their response about him saying Toledo instead of Dayton. Especially when the guy leading the Democratic primaries got both cities wrong.

I agree with the death penalty part.
 
After he's finished supporting it for three years. The only people believing this are the people who think Trump University gave them their money's worth.

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Still telling that lie?
 
Still telling that lie?

I forgot. You're one of the proponents who think the Lizard People forced national business and community leaders to quit prestigious and influential presidential committees in protest, aren't you? :lamo

Trump's business advisory councils disband as CEOs abandon Trump

Donald Trump's entire arts council quits in protest
“Ignoring your hateful rhetoric would have made us complicit in your words and actions,” the letter read.

Sadly, some people are happy being complicit in spreading hateful rhetoric.
 
I agree with the death penalty part.

Well, I don't, but I think anyone who reads what I write here knows by now that I oppose the death penalty.
 
I'll put the over-under of when tRump walks this condemnation back with his next "very fine people" gaffe at tomorrow at sunrise. Just to be generous.
 
How many people take his tweets seriously? 1%?

Yeah, that's the point of my current sig:

You have to be crazy to take Trump's racist tweets seriously. Sadly, a few Americans are. ... RIP 8/03 victims


(And it's a helluva lot more than 1%, read any thread dealing with Trump's racist attacks on brown skinned people.)
 
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So it would not matter what he said... you would still be bitching about it right?

In unequivocal terms, the president also condemned white supremacy, responding to reports that the shooter in El Paso wrote a racist manifesto.

"In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry and white supremacy,” Trump said, standing beside Vice President Pence. “These sinister ideologies must be defeated. Hatred has no place in America.”


Trump called the shooting in El Paso “tragic” and an “act of cowardice.”

“I know that I stand with everyone in this Country to condemn today’s hateful act. There are no reasons or excuses that will ever justify killing innocent people,” he tweeted.

On Sunday, the president said that "hate has no place in our country," and once again condemned the attacks.

The only way the TDS obsessors might believe Trump is serious about his condemnations, is if he resigns. That way he'd really show them that he means it.;)
 
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I'll put the over-under of when tRump walks this condemnation back with his next "very fine people" gaffe at tomorrow at sunrise. Just to be generous.

What? Are you serious? Trump would never do such a thing. Just look at his supporters who started a racist chant. He threw his supporters under the bus as racists:

Trump tries to distance himself from 'Send her back' chants despite silence at rally


Trump would never support a racist chant. ....Oh, wait.

In Another About-Face, Trump Refuses to Condemn ‘Send Her Back’ Chant - The New York Times


Damn! You were right as always. :p
 
How many people take his tweets seriously? 1%?

Well the El Paso shooter's manifesto was basically a collection of trump tweets..sooooo.....
 
I agree with the death penalty part.

I've been against the death penalty for a long time, but for these cretins, domestic terrorists, who we have undeniably premeditated, and carried out the crime, I'm for it.
 
Well the El Paso shooter's manifesto was basically a collection of trump tweets..sooooo.....

The suspect wrote that his views “predate Trump,” as if anticipating the political debate that would follow the blood bath. But if Mr. Trump did not originally inspire the gunman, he has brought into the mainstream polarizing ideas and people once consigned to the fringes of American society.

El Paso Shooting Suspect’s Manifesto Echoes Trump’s Language - The New York Times



Shooter said Trump didn't inspire him.

Trump's big solution is the wall, it's not shooting immigrants who come to America to find work.

Do I thing the wall will work? Maybe it will cut down on car thefts where criminals take stolen cars to Mexico but that's about it.
 
Well the El Paso shooter's manifesto was basically a collection of trump tweets..sooooo.....

Think about it, you're reading a White Supremacist shooter's manifesto, and you can't figure out which of the racist statements were made by Trump, and which were made by the shooter.

And people are still trying to tell us Trump isn't a racist, or that's he not fomenting hate in the USA.
 
The suspect wrote that his views “predate Trump,” as if anticipating the political debate that would follow the blood bath. But if Mr. Trump did not originally inspire the gunman, he has brought into the mainstream polarizing ideas and people once consigned to the fringes of American society.

El Paso Shooting Suspect’s Manifesto Echoes Trump’s Language - The New York Times



Shooter said Trump didn't inspire him.

Trump's big solution is the wall, it's not shooting immigrants who come to America to find work.

I agree with at least some of what you wrote, but Trump's racist tweets are designed to elicit hate imo. Why else would he make them?

WH press secretary fields questions about what Trump meant with 'breeding' tweet

These are racist tropes that have been around at least since WWII. My generation, the generation that largely supports Trump, the generation that Trump is part of, certainly knows exactly what they mean. We've heard them all before.

Dehumanization in in Nazi propaganda - Wikipedia
Again it portrayed the Jews as worthless subhumans and through a text containing seventeen short stories, as the antithesis of Aryan humanity. The Jew was dehumanized and was seen as a poisonous mushroom.

Donald Trump Says Undocumented Immigrants "Infest" U.S.
 
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The suspect wrote that his views “predate Trump,” as if anticipating the political debate that would follow the blood bath.

Shooter said Trump didn't inspire him.

You beat me to addressing the above poster's willful propaganda but don't be surprised if you see more of this kind of :bs as the week proceeds.
Many, afflicted with TDS, don't seem to be able to distinguish a lie from a fact anymore.
 
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