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Trump Tells Freshman Congresswomen to ‘Go Back’ to the Countries They Came From

Conservative said:
That's what you want to believe ignoring the other part of coming back and showing us how to solve the problems since you are such an expert. You think Trump is a racist? Doubt you are going to vote for him regardless so keep making up reasons to support your ideology and failures.
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Telling an American to leave their country is racist bigotry.

That is the bottom line facts
 
Conservative said:
Another issue, is the 10% uninsured number more important than the 33 million uninsured as a growing population hasn't benefited from ACA. ACA started with 48 million uninsured and we now have 33 million uninsured 9 years later yet that 33 million represents 10% uninsured which is what you want to tout?
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If you're hoping that I'm going fall on my sword to defend the ACA you're in for disappointment. I was and am still for a Medicare-for-All plan or at least the "public option" that Obama wanted. But thanks to "moderate" (read: conservative) Max Baucus who was the Senate leader for Dems and the efforts to woo Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins into voting for the bill only to find both of them pulling the rug out at the last minute we ended up with the "half-a-loaf" ACA. It was still better than nothing and some of its provisions have saved lives and improved outcomes--especially the elimination the "pre-existing condition" exception from coverage and the rural health funding. That latter provision has been gutted by Republicans so rural health centers are closing at a rapid pace. People who could have lived will die from that for not being able to get to an emergency room and surgical services in time.
 
Conservative said:
Got it, ACA is such a great program it has to be replaced. How old are you by the way and what makes you an expert on Medicare?
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I'm on it. And when you get it you'll wonder (or should) why you were against everyone getting it.
 
digitusmedius said:
You started out flailing but more like lashing out now---kind of like a cornered animal.
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You and the rest of your liberal friends can make up the data that you want to support your claims and I will continue to focus on the data that benefits the American people, actual dollars
 
Conservative said:
Healthcare is a big mess? What is a big mess, ACA is the mess not healthcare but then again Healthcare isn't a federal responsibility it is a state and local issue.
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I honestly don't know what planet you live on where healthcare wasn't a mess before the ACA.
 
digitusmedius said:
You're the one who began all this by fixating on a percentage. You might want to take a few and review all of your comments. You're must be getting dizzy with all this spinning, dodging and weaving.
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Told you why I addressed the percentage and why it is also not important today as the economy now is over 20 trillion dollars, actual dollars matter more than percentage change
 
Conservative said:
You and the rest of your liberal friends can make up the data that you want to support your claims and I will continue to focus on the data that benefits the American people, actual dollars
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:lamo when the numbers aren't to your liking, just claim fake news
 
vegas giants said:
Telling an American to leave their country is racist bigotry.

That is the bottom line facts
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That is a racist taunt as old as the country. Every wave of immigrants was met with that even for generations after their arrival. And It was often slung from the most recent wave of arrivals who were still hearing it from the one who got here just before them.
 
Integrityrespec said:
A large portion of our country sees the government as the peoples caretaker and provider. The government is there to protect opportunity not to insure equality of outcome. Those who believe they should be provided with everything that everyone else has (because they earned it) are not dealing in reality. America is built on opportunity and hard work. America love it or leave it.
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That is what conservatives imagine the position of liberals, which isn't the position of liberals.

What liberals really believe is that we should have a private-enterprise economy, but one in which society’s winners are taxed to pay for a social safety net, which is morally superior to the capitalism red in tooth and claw we had before the New Deal. Liberals believe the affluent should be taxed to help the less fortunate.

Conservatives believe that people have a right to keep what they earn, and that taxing them to support others, no matter how needy, amounts to theft.

What does any of this have to do with Trump telling other Americans to go back where they come from?
 
Conservative said:
actual dollars matter more than percentage change
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Ludicrous. By this metric, population growth is basically the only factor that matters. So, George Washington had the worst economy in the history of the United States because he had less than 1% of the population we have now?
 
digitusmedius said:
If you're hoping that I'm going fall on my sword to defend the ACA you're in for disappointment. I was and am still for a Medicare-for-All plan or at least the "public option" that Obama wanted. But thanks to "moderate" (read: conservative) Max Baucus who was the Senate leader for Dems and the efforts to woo Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins into voting for the bill only to find both of them pulling the rug out at the last minute we ended up with the "half-a-loaf" ACA. It was still better than nothing and some of its provisions have saved lives and improved outcomes--especially the elimination the "pre-existing condition" exception from coverage and the rural health funding. That latter provision has been gutted by Republicans so rural health centers are closing at a rapid pace. People who could have lived will die from that for not being able to get to an emergency room and surgical services in time.
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LOL, you are for anything that someone else has to pay for totally ignoring that Medicare for All is financially incapable of creation in a private sector economy. This is a state and local issue although people like you who want big gov't think is the solution. Like most teens you believe what you are told and then when bureaucrats "borrow" the money leaving it unfunded, or you lose your doctor, or your hospital or have doctors dropping out because of the inability to recoup their cost of education it is too late to go back to the problem we have now that works.

States run UHC and yet that isn't good enough for you so you ignore history, ignore the unfunded liability we have today in Medicare and SS because of bureaucrats, and continue to look for that liberal utopia that has never been created by any group of liberals. This group of youngsters will do what previous groups were unable to do. Keep losing the factual debates and keep diverting to issues like this thread topic all in hopes of doing exactly what? Post 918 is more to the point
 
digitusmedius said:
I'm on it. And when you get it you'll wonder (or should) why you were against everyone getting it.
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Because it is a pie in the sky dream program where 33 million are still uninsured, where exchanges all over the country are failing but that is ok because it isn't you. Why is healthcare someone else's responsibility to fund? If this is such a major issue for you do what other states have done, implement your own state run program. One size doesn't fit all when you have 50 different states with different costs of living and tax structures
 
Deuce said:
I honestly don't know what planet you live on where healthcare wasn't a mess before the ACA.
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I live in the planet where personal responsibility exists and one where I never expected you to fund it for me.
 
Conservative said:
Because it is a pie in the sky dream program where 33 million are still uninsured, where exchanges all over the country are failing but that is ok because it isn't you. Why is healthcare someone else's responsibility to fund? If this is such a major issue for you do what other states have done, implement your own state run program. One size doesn't fit all when you have 50 different states with different costs of living and tax structures
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Sure let's pretend you're fine with universal healthcare if it's implemented at a state level.
 
Conservative said:
Told you why I addressed the percentage and why it is also not important today as the economy now is over 20 trillion dollars, actual dollars matter more than percentage change
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So, does it bother you that in real dollars the Debt-to-GDP in 2018 was the largest ever (>$2T) it's ever been two years into the Trump "miracle?" Or do you have a way for blaming Obama for that, too?
 
Deuce said:
:lamo when the numbers aren't to your liking, just claim fake news
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Right, fake news is being reported by Treasury, BLS, and Census, Dollars matter except to radicals who want to make up issues to promote their ideology, Post 918 is your answer
 
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