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    Re: Trump Tells Freshman Congresswomen to ‘Go Back’ to the Countries They Came From

    Quote Originally Posted by pamak View Post
    Give me one case of a politician saying something like this to a white person "Go back to where you came from." You can hear things like "if you do not like it here go to Canada" but such expression does not imply that the person has a Canadian origin. The very use of the expression "where you came from" shows that even Representatives who were born here are considered foreigners because of their skin color who should return to "where they came from"
    It doesn't matter, Trump knows exactly what he's doing and why. I've already explained it for you.

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    Re: Trump Tells Freshman Congresswomen to ‘Go Back’ to the Countries They Came From

    Quote Originally Posted by manofknowledge View Post
    You mean like buiding a wall across the southern border paid for by Mexico?

    Compare the economy in 2008 when Obama took office to when he left office.

    Obama's Final Numbers - FactCheck.org
    In order for Mexico to pay for a wall there has to be a wall? Comparing the Obama economy to the Bush economy??? Ok

    Obama 4.2 trillion added to GDP in 8 years including the 842 billion Stimulus, Bush 4.7 trillion dollars in 8 years

    Obama 9.3 trillion added to the debt in 8 years, Bush 4.9 trillion

    Bush won the war in Iraq, Obama lost the peace

    Bush signed TARP which recapitalized the banks and brought us out of recession, Obama created a term called saved jobs

    Here is what Obama inherited, a Democratic Congress, NO Budget, and TARP so keep buying what you are told then explain to us why the recovery from what you called the worst recovery since the Great Depression was the worst recovery in history?

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    Re: Trump Tells Freshman Congresswomen to ‘Go Back’ to the Countries They Came From

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Person View Post
    That far-left progressive group may or may not have said a lot of stupid things. It doesn't excuse telling them - 3 of whom were even born here, 1 naturalized - to go back to their countries in response to their criticism of his policies. When he only aims at a subset of people with a certain skin color, again a subset of a far larger group of people taking the same issue with those policies, it gives a pretty clear notion of what he's doing.

    The reaction of Trumpists around DP further confirms it: it's universally being played as "oh look, the liberals are playing the race card again". That was the point.

    Now you may or may not believe it, but I take great issue with the way identity politics is used by the Democrats. This, however, is identity politics on the right. (In fact, it looks like the Dems might just rip themselves apart and give Trump another 4 years with infighting between Biden and the farther left candidates, who are presently fighting over whether Biden is racist).

    Trump's version of the right's identity politics, specifically. He could easily have attacked everyone who doesn't like his Big Beautiful Wall idea, who take issue with locking up and separating illegals when Obama's program - implemented in response to a court order - was working quite well. He didn't. He chose to focus on four politicians with non-white skin, three who were born here and one who like his wife was not but has become a citizen; with foreign-sounding names.

    Want to admit it or not, but there is a very real xenophobia amongst his base, his supporters, his defenders. It's real. We only ended legal segregation several decades ago. Much more persisted. America has not come nearly as far as it tells itself, and you know....it's a certain 'side' that does most of the telling. I wonder why



    PS: the stance that one has to literally say "I don't like X people" to be racist is absurd in the extreme. It's also transparent.
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    Re: Trump Tells Freshman Congresswomen to ‘Go Back’ to the Countries They Came From

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    It doesn't matter, Trump knows exactly what he's doing and why. I've already explained it for you.

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    Since you did not address anything in my post that challenged your explanation, you sound more like saying " I cannot defend Trump's comments in this debate but I endorse them because Trump knows exactly what he's doing."

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    Re: Trump Tells Freshman Congresswomen to ‘Go Back’ to the Countries They Came From

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Name for us the biggest lie that you believe Trump has made that has hurt the American people and then why no response to 423?
    There is too many to choose from. And I already said how ruining relationships of allies and sucking up to dictators hurts America like he has done. The trade wars he has engaged in have hurt America.
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    Re: Trump Tells Freshman Congresswomen to ‘Go Back’ to the Countries They Came From

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Look, Praxas I know who you are on this forum, I chose to engage you only to help you at least try to understand where his support really is coming from, and specifically why. I also tried to explain to you why he keeps doing what he does, and the possible purpose behind it. In other words, I was giving you the political reasons, which is what this debate forum is all about. Calling his voters children, or him is lazy, and I chose not to engage any longer.

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    When those supporters are cheering him trolling like a child, yes, they are children.
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    Which is greater, the life of the baby or a womans "rights"??????
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    Yes, we know that you don't care Trump bragged about walking in on underage girls naked.
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    And that bothers you because????????

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    Re: Trump Tells Freshman Congresswomen to ‘Go Back’ to the Countries They Came From

    Quote Originally Posted by pamak View Post
    Give me one case of a politician saying something like this to a white person "Go back to where you came from." You can hear things like "if you do not like it here go to Canada" but such expression does not imply that the person has a Canadian origin. The very use of the expression "where you came from" shows that even Representatives who were born here are considered foreigners because of their skin color who should return to "where they came from"
    The true racists are people like you, Racist Trump has created an economy that has 6% African American support vs 7.7% that Obama left us with. Trump economy puts America first and promotes patriotism demonizing those in your party that seem to hate this country. Did you see any Democrat condemn removal of the American flag in Colorado and replacing it with a Mexican flag then flying the American flag upside down?

    you have a serious problem in this country so if you don't like it leave it or do what Trump said straighten out your own country before giving Advice on how to straighten out this country which seems to be happening in spite of people like you

    Why is it that people whit heritage from other countries that are fiscal and social nightmares now experts on this country and how to fix it? You like your economy and your country so much no one is forcing you to stay here

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    Re: Trump Tells Freshman Congresswomen to ‘Go Back’ to the Countries They Came From

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Going back to where you came from is not about race. Most people know this, it's targeted at ANYONE that seems to **** on the virtues of the USA. Trump doesn't care what color you are, he seems to have mastered the ability to sniff out America's hating class, and call them on it. Only the idiots who already think Trump is a racist will continue to do so. You're NOT wining any voters here, in case you needed to be remined of that. He (Trump) doesn't care about them politically, he's using you folks to keep the pressure on your favorite dimwit candidate!

    Gawd, you folks, that come to a political debate forum really are totally clueless about how politics works!


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    Who was Trump talking about? The only person out of 4 is not American born. She came here when she was around 10. So Trump's unhinged rant makes no sense. There is no single example of her stating that she hates America. Imagine if Trump had said, "Go back to Africa!"

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    Re: Trump Tells Freshman Congresswomen to ‘Go Back’ to the Countries They Came From

    Quote Originally Posted by Praxas View Post
    When those supporters are cheering him trolling like a child, yes, they are children.
    Why aren't you demonizing the AOC gang of 4 lying about the detention centers, promoting division and hatred, having no solutions to the problems you see in this country and what is wrong with telling people whose background comes from countries that are fiscal and social disaster to fix theirs first showing us how to fix ours??

    The bluest state in the nation is a fiscal and social nightmare giving us a clear picture of what liberalism would be like with open borders like California basically has, sanctuary cities, a mecca of homelessness, the worst poverty in the nation, the top pollution cities in the country, worst quality of life in the nation yet this is who you want to elect our next President all because you hate Trump's personality but cannot address his results.

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    Re: Trump Tells Freshman Congresswomen to ‘Go Back’ to the Countries They Came From

    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Who was Trump talking about? The only person out of 4 is not American born. She came here when she was around 10. So Trump's unhinged rant makes no sense. There is no single example of her stating that she hates America. Imagine if Trump had said, "Go back to Africa!"
    So then what qualifies these people to tell us how to solve the social problems in this country?

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