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Trump Tells Freshman Congresswomen to ‘Go Back’ to the Countries They Came From

sjmay said:
I think it shows that, THAT tweet, isn't racist.....and considering THAT tweet is what supposedly pushed you over the edge, you don't need absolvement of racist rhetoric that you chose to ignore BEFORE the tweet.
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I think it shows you're unwilling to call it what it is. You cant even explain to me how it absolves him.

Sad, pathetic.
 
pamak said:
I never said Trump was racist because he asked somebody to show his solutions.
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Yet, that is what the tweet did......correct?
 
Conservative said:
Yes, normally they do showing how easy it is to indoctrinate people by keeping them dependent. You don't bite the hand that feeds you. wonder who the African American Community is going to vote in 2020 with historic low unemployment 1.7% lower than "their" African American President?
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Well you are implying they can not think for themselves which is pretty racist
 
sjmay said:
Then why is it Racist when Trump did it?
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You don't Americans who dissent to leave the country.

Otherwise trump should go back to Scotland
 
vegas giants said:
That is also bigoted. You dont have to invite people back to their own country. It's not up to you.

How are you not getting this?
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Same way you aren't getting that it's not a racist tweet.....that's just the dog whistle of the left.

But I will agree, maybe I shouldnt have said invite..or inviting...but he surely did not say, go back to your own country, and leave it at that, did he?
 
sjmay said:
Ok, got it,

So however long racists have been in this country , THIS TIME is the ONLY time, a racist has invited minorities BACK into the United States....

Because....he wants to start a new trend in racism?

So you literally can't apply critical thinking to this quote because if you did, it wouldn't mean what you thought it meant? So you have to literally say something more idiotic, like THIS time, racists are inviting minorities BACK into the United States....because..that's what they do?

Amazing how you can't just think for yourself.
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Wallace wanted to start a new trend in racism. It was called separate but equal

Racism is still racism even if its new
 
Obscurity said:
I think it shows you're unwilling to call it what it is. You cant even explain to me how it absolves him.

Sad, pathetic.
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No, I have, you just don't have the capacity to understand it.

If he had just said, go back to where you came from.....absolutely, racist. But he didn't, he said, go back to where you came from (however misguided that was), fix the problems there, and then come back and show us how to do it.

It is absolutely a statement about their critiques and lack of policy agendas/issues/work, than it is about their race......

But dog whistles and identity politics will have you believe something else, and you will buy into it, because it's easier to hate, than to understand.
 
sjmay said:
No, I have, you just don't have the capacity to understand it.

If he had just said, go back to where you came from.....absolutely, racist. But he didn't, he said, go back to where you came from (however misguided that was), fix the problems there, and then come back and show us how to do it.

It is absolutely a statement about their critiques and lack of policy agendas/issues/work, than it is about their race......

But dog whistles and identity politics will have you believe something else, and you will buy into it, because it's easier to hate, than to understand.
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Telling Americans to leave America is bigoted. Period
 
sjmay said:
No, I have, you just don't have the capacity to understand it.

If he had just said, go back to where you came from.....absolutely, racist. But he didn't, he said, go back to where you came from (however misguided that was), fix the problems there, and then come back and show us how to do it.

It is absolutely a statement about their critiques and lack of policy agendas/issues/work, than it is about their race......

But dog whistles and identity politics will have you believe something else, and you will buy into it, because it's easier to hate, than to understand.
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Tell me. Where was AOC supposed to go back to? Lol
 
vegas giants said:
Tell me. Where was AOC supposed to go back to? Lol
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From what I've heard, the Bronx/Queens is a country all and of itself,

Again, your problem is you are taking things literal....OMG she can't go back to anywhere cuz she's from here! omg!

Instead of reading the entire text, it's like you just learned how to read and are taking it word by word.
 
vegas giants said:
Wallace wanted to start a new trend in racism. It was called separate but equal

Racism is still racism even if its new
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Yes, so by Trump, the newest trend in racism is....telling minorities to COME BACK TO THE UNITED STATES....

Cmon man...are you serious?
 
sjmay said:
From what I've heard, the Bronx/Queens is a country all and of itself,

Again, your problem is you are taking things literal....OMG she can't go back to anywhere cuz she's from here! omg!

Instead of reading the entire text, it's like you just learned how to read and are taking it word by word.
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He said if you dont like America then go back where you came from.


You are starting to flounder now. Lol
 
sjmay said:
Yes, so by Trump, the newest trend in racism is....telling minorities to COME BACK TO THE UNITED STATES....

Cmon man...are you serious?
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No. Its telling Americans to leave.


What happened to including the whole quote? Lol
 
sjmay said:
Explain.
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Sorry, but I cannot explain the same thing numerous times to different posters. The title of the thread reveals very well the problem with Trump;s comments.
 
vegas giants said:
Well you are implying they can not think for themselves which is pretty racist
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Thinking for themselves?? LOL, that is exactly what they are doing by not voting against the hand that feeds them.
 
Conservative said:
No, not necessary, gave you the website location as did another poster so it is a waste of time, Keep trying to prop up failure ignoring the actual results in context and like most liberals you have no understanding of the private sector. Keep acting like a teenager so that when you finally find out how wrong you are it will be too late
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I realize you have to cover your ass for putting up such a lame comment. Listing those annual GDP figures (and incorrectly for that matter; for the 2015 amount you put in $18129 and it was actually $18219). So your sloppiness with numbers is now well established and so is your carelessness in general. If your whole point was that the GDP growth in 2016, you didn't even need to make that list of numbers and could have cited the 1.6% and provided a link to prove it.
 
pamak said:
Sorry, but I cannot explain the same thing numerous times to different posters. The title of the thread reveals very well the problem with Trump;s comments.
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What exactly do you hope to gain by continuing to ignore context and continuing to attack Trump for something that by any standard wasn't racist? Maybe it is you looking for an issue while never being objected simply due to hatred for Trump? You have a solution then show us how it is done? How about starting in your own state?
 
vegas giants said:
He said if you dont like America then go back where you came from.


You are starting to flounder now. Lol
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Not flounder, getting busy at work now....

No, that's not what he said...try again.
 
Conservative said:
What exactly do you hope to gain by continuing to ignore context and continuing to attack Trump for something that by any standard wasn't racist? Maybe it is you looking for an issue while never being objected simply due to hatred for Trump? You have a solution then show us how it is done? How about starting in your own state?
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What I hope to gain is to make clear that one can criticize somebody without making racists comments. If Trump wants to criticize AOC that's fine. If he uses his desire to criticize AOC as motive for racist comments, this is not "context" in my book. It is inadequate excuse.
 
digitusmedius said:
I realize you have to cover your ass for putting up such a lame comment. Listing those annual GDP figures (and incorrectly for that matter; for the 2015 amount you put in $18129 and it was actually $18219). So your sloppiness with numbers is now well established and so is your carelessness in general. If your whole point was that the GDP growth in 2016, you didn't even need to make that list of numbers and could have cited the 1.6% and provided a link to prove it.
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I gave you the official link, you want to make a big issue out of your calculation and continue to try and prop up Obama I find that a waste of time, Obama lost the Congress in 14 and Democrats lost the Congress in 16. Trump is President and GDP growth is almost 2 trillion dollars in two years, you show me those numbers for Obama? Keep buying what you are told and keep making a fool of yourself.

Citing 1.6% GDP growth??? However as stated Growth percentages aren't nearly as relevant as growth dollars which is what generates tax revenue, not the percentage change

Table 1.1.1. Percent Change From Preceding Period in Real Gross Domestic Product
[Percent]
Bureau of Economic Analysis
Last Revised on: June 27, 2019 - Next Release Date July 26, 2019

Line 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018
Line
1 Gross domestic product -2.5 2.6 1.6 2.2 1.8 2.5 2.9 1.6 2.2 2.9
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pamak said:
What I hope to gain is to make clear that one can criticize somebody without making racists comments. If Trump wants to criticize AOC that's fine. If he uses his desire to criticize AOC as motive for racist comments, this is not "context" in my book. It is inadequate excuse.
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I am sure that Trump and others appreciate your suggestion none of which have anything to do with the reality that it is the issue that you want not solutions. This is nothing more than attacking Trump personally out of pure hatred for him and what you are going to find is the American people overlook personalities and will vote on results. You continue to have no solutions to any of your own perceived problems or you would be working in California to solve them
 
Conservative said:
Interesting how percentage to you is more important than actual dollars generated, what is it about liberalism that creates your kind of loyalty?

Which is worse

Reagan 1.7 trillion added to the debt PLUS 300%

Obama 9.3 trillion added to the debt PLUS 90%
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Reagan's by far. His massive debt increase ushered in the era of Republican fiscal irresponsibility. Clinton had turned it around with 4 years of revenue surpluses and debt reductio but Bush, Jr. blew that apart with a 105% increase then handed Obama an economy in ruin. The CBO estimated in 2001 that if the Clinton tax rates had stayed in place the entire public debt would have been paid off.
 
Conservative said:
Kind of leadership? Someone who does what is right regardless of the popularity? Trump has pissed off the establishment of both parties. Results matter and you put way too much emphasis on likability of the President
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It's not just me, but all of the others to whom this matters too. You just have a binary view in which the character of the leader doesn't matter so long as you have money in your pocket. Not everyone has those kind of standards.
 
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