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Armed man shot, killed after throwing incendiary devices at Washington ICE detention center.

JustHanging said:
Really, you missed it? Dang, you need to check sources outside of FOX and Alex Jones. It was all over the news for weeks.
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The LIE was in the press for weeks, but that is because the press has a propensity to lie when it helps Democrats narratives. It could be argued that CNN, MSNBC and the major city Newspapers primary duty, as they see it, is to build narratives for the Democrats.

In the very same speech Trump stated quite clearly that he was not talking about the Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists and that those groups should be totally condemned.

But you read the lies that conveniently clipped that part out.

Just before the "Very Fine People" statement.... (transcript)

Q: Do you think what you call the alt left is the same as neo-Nazis?

Trump: All of those people -- i've condemned neo-Nazis. I've condemned many different groups. Not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch. Those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, Robert E. Lee.

And then after the "Very Fine People" statement.... in the very same Q&A:

You had people and i'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists. They should be condemned totally. You had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. The press has treated them absolutely unfairly.


And yet you allowed yourself to be lied to because those in the press knew that most anti-Trumpers would not bother checking the work of a media that was selling the narrative.

They played to the fools. I'd suggest that you stop being one.
 
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Dragonlady said:
I suggest YOU go online and see how many people cheered on the murderer in Charlottesville who ran down more than 30 people with his car. There was massive joy and glee from the right when that happened. My point being, that yes, idiots will cheer the violence.

There are fools who look for excuses to go out and cause trouble, and are thrilled when it looks like things are going to hell in a handbasket. And they're on both sides.
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Yes, but the current issue for everyone right now. Is that when such happens by someone who's aligned on the right. Everyone, but a slim minority condemns them and their actions.

But that is not the case here. You have people fighting to have this man recognizes as some twisted little martyr and there are currently large sections of the left, including their more notable figureheads cheering this kind of thing on.
 
Grand Mal said:
What truth? That then left has to own ANTIFA? That's not truth, that a smelly load of crap delivered by another low-functioning member of the idiot horde.
And calling an idiot's comment idiocy isn't an insult.
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See, all you have are insults and nothing more.
 
Grand Mal said:
Mission rejected. I don't care what the lunatic fringe says about one of their own and if you do you need to get a life.
Listen carefully. I know they're out there, the over-the-top assholes and lunatics, but if you think I feel any responsibility for what they say you've got another thought coming. It requires a startling degree of stupidity to declare that I and every other liberal are somehow responsible for ANTIFA and their ilk.
But go ahead. Startle me again.
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I'm not saying that you're responsible. Then again aside from insults, you've barely had anything else to add to the discussion.

I'm talking about the majority of the left that are being not only accepting of this violence, but calling for more of it. Nothing more.
 
Oborosen said:
I'm not saying that you're responsible. Then again aside from insults, you've barely had anything else to add to the discussion.

I'm talking about the majority of the left that are being not only accepting of this violence, but calling for more of it. Nothing more.
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How come anarchists get laid at the feet of the left anyway? Conservatives always say they're all about small government, minimal government, and anarchy is about no government at all. Seems to me anarchy, ANTIFA, is at the extreme end of the right side, opposite to the extreme left.
 
j-mac said:
Um....Say what now? :lamo
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Uh, you know what I said and snipped all the context out of my post.
But this post is just about posturing, innit, and works much better if you only quote a single phrase.
It's a bull**** ploy but about what we can expect.
 
Grand Mal said:
How come anarchists get laid at the feet of the left anyway? Conservatives always say they're all about small government, minimal government, and anarchy is about no government at all. Seems to me anarchy, ANTIFA, is at the extreme end of the right side, opposite to the extreme left.
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Even though they avow themselves of being the progressive, liberals. Who fight fascism, even though it does not exist in this administration?

Their actions speak more loudly than their words, and their words have already spoken more than enough.
 
Oborosen said:
I'm talking about the majority of the left that are being not only accepting of this violence, but calling for more of it. Nothing more.
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You will need to show evidence for that claim.
 
AProudLefty said:
You will need to show evidence for that claim.
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Given he amount of followers that king has and his position on the left. I think he'd have more idea of what he was calling for.

Willem Van Spronsen just became the first martyr attempting to liberate imprisoned refugees from a for-profit detention center in Tacoma, Washington.

His hero was John Brown -the white abolitionist who led the raid on Harpers Ferry in 1859.

This is what our country has come to. pic.twitter.com/y3STkjsp6o

— Shaun King (@shaunking) July 15, 2019
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He goes on to praise the man several more times and has even stated that the detention centers should be shut down by any means necessary.
 
Oborosen said:
Given he amount of followers that king has and his position on the left. I think he'd have more idea of what he was calling for.



He goes on to praise the man several more times and has even stated that the detention centers should be shut down by any means necessary.
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I have no idea who he is. I'm willing to bet that most on the left has no idea who he is.
 
AProudLefty said:
I have no idea who he is. I'm willing to bet that most on the left has no idea who he is.
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Wish almost 1.2 million followers on his account, and his recent activity. You'd be one of the few who doesn't know at lest something.
 
Oborosen said:
Wish almost 1.2 million followers on his account, and his recent activity. You'd be one of the few who doesn't know at lest something.
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So 1.2 million followers means they all agree with his statement?

[Edit] = I looked for that tweet. Apparently it's not there anymore.
 
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