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Prosecutors unlikely to charge Trump Org executives

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Trump Org executives unlikely to be charged, sources say - CNNPolitics
A federal investigation into whether Trump Organization executives violated campaign-finance laws appears to be wrapping up without charges being filed, according to people familiar with the matter.

For months, federal prosecutors in New York have examined whether company officials broke the law, including in their effort to reimburse Michael Cohen for hush-money payments he made to women alleging affairs with his former boss, President Donald Trump.

In recent weeks, however, their investigation has quieted, the people familiar with the inquiry said, and prosecutors now don't appear poised to charge any Trump Organization executives in the probe that stemmed from the case against Cohen.
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This is very surprising to me. All of the evidence against the Trump Org was so damning. From the checks to the recorded calls, it appeared to be a slam dunk case. I'm going to guess that the SDNY decided that waiting to indict Trump in 2021 just wasn't practical, and would be too political for the office.

What this ought to tell Democrats is that investigating Trump to 'get' him is pointless. He's a rich elitist with the power of the Presidency, who for all pratical purposes IS above the law right now. The only way to end this is to go and beat him at the polls, and just send him back to NY.
 
MovingPictures said:
Trump Org executives unlikely to be charged, sources say - CNNPolitics

This is very surprising to me. All of the evidence against the Trump Org was so damning. From the checks to the recorded calls, it appeared to be a slam dunk case. I'm going to guess that the SDNY decided that waiting to indict Trump in 2021 just wasn't practical, and would be too political for the office.

What this ought to tell Democrats is that investigating Trump to 'get' him is pointless. He's a rich elitist with the power of the Presidency, who for all pratical purposes IS above the law right now. The only way to end this is to go and beat him at the polls, and just send him back to NY.
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Or...it tells the Dems that they are wasting their time with investigating crimes that don't exist.

Will the Dems listen? Nah...it's all they have.
 
What's that noise I hear? Oh yeah...just Anti-Trumpers' heads exploding.

Better get the mop and bleach.
 
MovingPictures said:
Trump Org executives unlikely to be charged, sources say - CNNPolitics

This is very surprising to me. All of the evidence against the Trump Org was so damning. From the checks to the recorded calls, it appeared to be a slam dunk case. I'm going to guess that the SDNY decided that waiting to indict Trump in 2021 just wasn't practical, and would be too political for the office.

What this ought to tell Democrats is that investigating Trump to 'get' him is pointless. He's a rich elitist with the power of the Presidency, who for all pratical purposes IS above the law right now. The only way to end this is to go and beat him at the polls, and just send him back to NY.
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Well, no the evidence wasn't damming.
As many of us had said.
How many more grievous dissapointments are in store?
 
The investigation went dark 5 months ago, around the time Trump appointed Barr as his personal Attorney General. Sheer coincidence of course.
 
MovingPictures said:
Trump Org executives unlikely to be charged, sources say - CNNPolitics

This is very surprising to me. All of the evidence against the Trump Org was so damning. From the checks to the recorded calls, it appeared to be a slam dunk case. I'm going to guess that the SDNY decided that waiting to indict Trump in 2021 just wasn't practical, and would be too political for the office.

What this ought to tell Democrats is that investigating Trump to 'get' him is pointless. He's a rich elitist with the power of the Presidency, who for all pratical purposes IS above the law right now. The only way to end this is to go and beat him at the polls, and just send him back to NY.
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Or, alterntatively, the investigators are more schooled in the law and have better access to the evidence. What it tells Democrats, IF they're smart enough to listen, is that persecuting/prosecuting Trump without more than "he's Trump, he's a crook" to go on will continue to be a waste of resources.
 
MovingPictures said:
Trump Org executives unlikely to be charged, sources say - CNNPolitics

This is very surprising to me. All of the evidence against the Trump Org was so damning. From the checks to the recorded calls, it appeared to be a slam dunk case. I'm going to guess that the SDNY decided that waiting to indict Trump in 2021 just wasn't practical, and would be too political for the office.

What this ought to tell Democrats is that investigating Trump to 'get' him is pointless. He's a rich elitist with the power of the Presidency, who for all pratical purposes IS above the law right now. The only way to end this is to go and beat him at the polls, and just send him back to NY.
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Or maybe the reports about the evidence against Trump were fake news. Left wingers seem to have a fundamentally false idea about what kind of person Trump is.
 
Mycroft said:
Or...it tells the Dems that they are wasting their time with investigating crimes that don't exist.

Will the Dems listen? Nah...it's all they have.
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Without the outrage, dog whistles from their media partners, and virtue signaling, they would be left with having to come up with stuff that is good for everyday Americans.

No wait. Given that track record, perhaps it's better they keep attacking and failing, as getting nothing from them is best for everyday Americans....
 
ocean515 said:
Without the outrage, dog whistles from their media partners, and virtue signaling, they would be left with having to come up with stuff that is good for everyday Americans.

No wait. Given that track record, perhaps it's better they keep attacking and failing, as getting nothing from them is best for everyday Americans....
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MovingPictures said:
Trump Org executives unlikely to be charged, sources say - CNNPolitics

This is very surprising to me. All of the evidence against the Trump Org was so damning. From the checks to the recorded calls, it appeared to be a slam dunk case. I'm going to guess that the SDNY decided that waiting to indict Trump in 2021 just wasn't practical, and would be too political for the office.

What this ought to tell Democrats is that investigating Trump to 'get' him is pointless. He's a rich elitist with the power of the Presidency, who for all pratical purposes IS above the law right now. The only way to end this is to go and beat him at the polls, and just send him back to NY.
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Perhaps, much like the hoopla about Russian Collusion, the allegations were not as solidly based as once thought.

Recall back when everyone was certain that there was all sorts of damning evidence about this or that? Just look at all the indictments people would say. Problem is, Trump has been in business for a very long time, and this is not the first time he has faced scrutiny. Most of the time the allegations fizzle out. Sometimes they end up being settled in civil court. But he would not have been able to run for President if he had any criminal issues in his past.

He has faced financial ups and downs for decades, wouldn't you think that such experience would have taught him to deal?
 
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Captain Adverse said:
Perhaps, much like the hoopla about Russian Collusion, the allegations were not as solidly based as once thought.

Recall back when everyone was certain that there was all sorts of damning evidence about this or that? Just look at all the indictments people would say. Problem is, Trump has been in business for a very long time, and this is not the first time he has faced scrutiny. Most of the time the allegations fizzle out. Sometimes they end up being settled in civil court. But he would not have been able to run for President if he had any criminal issues in his past.

He has faced financial ups and downs for decades, wouldn't you think that such experience would have taught him to deal?
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Maybe, maybe not.

Rich elitists are often allowed to engage in financial chicanery that would otherwise be illegal for the average citizen. They also get away with even more serious crimes such as those of Epstein, where there is damning evidence of sex crimes, but they are given a slap on the wrist.

The evidence that Trump knew Cohen was breaking the law on his behalf is seen in the checks, the wire transfers, the timing, and his knowledg of the payments is right on tape.
 
MovingPictures said:
Trump Org executives unlikely to be charged, sources say - CNNPolitics

This is very surprising to me. All of the evidence against the Trump Org was so damning. From the checks to the recorded calls, it appeared to be a slam dunk case. I'm going to guess that the SDNY decided that waiting to indict Trump in 2021 just wasn't practical, and would be too political for the office.

What this ought to tell Democrats is that investigating Trump to 'get' him is pointless. He's a rich elitist with the power of the Presidency, who for all pratical purposes IS above the law right now. The only way to end this is to go and beat him at the polls, and just send him back to NY.
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It was never a "slam dunk". We kept on telling you that but you kept listening to Maddow and friends because they kept telling you what you wanted to hear. You're STILL looking for people to tell you what you want to hear and you're STILL shocked and amazed when Trump doesn't catch fire and burn.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Perhaps, much like the hoopla about Russian Collusion, the allegations were not as solidly based as once thought.

Recall back when everyone was certain that there was all sorts of damning evidence about this or that? Just look at all the indictments people would say. Problem is, Trump has been in business for a very long time, and this is not the first time he has faced scrutiny. Most of the time the allegations fizzle out. Sometimes they end up being settled in civil court. But he would not have been able to run for President if he had any criminal issues in his past.

He has faced financial ups and downs for decades, wouldn't you think that such experience would have taught him to deal?
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Which has not a thing to do with this case, but nice try anyway. Meanwhile the statute of limitations remains in effect and since Mr Trump is the owner and therefore the chief executive of the Trump Organization they could well be waiting till he is no longer President before proceeding and/or have another ongoing case that could be affected by this one that they don't want to jeopardize.
 
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Lutherf said:
It was never a "slam dunk". We kept on telling you that but you kept listening to Maddow and friends because they kept telling you what you wanted to hear. You're STILL looking for people to tell you what you want to hear and you're STILL shocked and amazed when Trump doesn't catch fire and burn.
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Dude, get a grip on yourself.

I don't watch or listen to anything on MSLSD. I've never liked the talking heads over there, and have said as much on here.

And why would we listen to anything any of you guys have said? Take a look at how that FISA-Deep State theory is being recieved by the IG.
 
MovingPictures said:
Trump Org executives unlikely to be charged, sources say - CNNPolitics

This is very surprising to me. All of the evidence against the Trump Org was so damning. From the checks to the recorded calls, it appeared to be a slam dunk case. I'm going to guess that the SDNY decided that waiting to indict Trump in 2021 just wasn't practical, and would be too political for the office.

What this ought to tell Democrats is that investigating Trump to 'get' him is pointless. He's a rich elitist with the power of the Presidency, who for all pratical purposes IS above the law right now. The only way to end this is to go and beat him at the polls, and just send him back to NY.
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The payments to Stormy Daniels were not an in kind campaign contribution according former FEC Chairman Bradley Smith. Professor Smith who teaches FEC law at a law school says the payment has other non election reasons for being paid. Trump wanted to conceal the affair from Melanea and his kids and to protect his Trump brand. The SDNY probably realize they just did not have a winnable case. My wife was a Federal court reporter for over 30 years. She has always said if Federal Prosecutors don't have a winnable case they don't play. That is why the Feds win 95 plus percent of the cases they prosecute.


Professor Smith added, “When the FEC wrote the regulation that says what constitutes campaign expenditures and what constitutes personal use, it rejected specifically the idea that a campaign expenditure was anything related to a campaign, and instead says it has to be something that exists only because of the campaign and solely for that reason.”
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Former FEC Chairman To Mark Levin: Stormy Daniels Money Cannot Be In Kind Campaign Contribution | Daily Wire
 
MovingPictures said:
Dude, get a grip on yourself.

I don't watch or listen to anything on MSLSD. I've never liked the talking heads over there, and have said as much on here.

And why would we listen to anything any of you guys have said? Take a look at how that FISA-Deep State theory is being recieved by the IG.
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Do you know something about what the IG has concluded that we don't know? What?
 
SLC said:
The payments to Stormy Daniels were not an in kind campaign contribution according former FEC Chairman Bradley Smith. Professor Smith who teaches FEC law at a law school says the payment has other non election reasons for being paid. Trump wanted to conceal the affair from Melanea and his kids and to protect his Trump brand. The SDNY probably realize they just did not have a winnable case. My wife was a Federal court reporter for over 30 years. She has always said if Federal Prosecutors don't have a winnable case they don't play. That is why the Feds win 95 plus percent of the cases they prosecute.




Former FEC Chairman To Mark Levin: Stormy Daniels Money Cannot Be In Kind Campaign Contribution | Daily Wire
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Then why did Cohen plead guilty to it? No lawyer on Earth has a client plead guilty to a noncrime.

Indicting a former President - their only option - would not be an easy public case to win, which I believe was a large part of the reason they are closing it now.
 
SLC said:
Do you know something about what the IG has concluded that we don't know? What?
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You know how to use Google, right?
 
MovingPictures said:
You know how to use Google, right?
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You know not everything on the internet is true. But I am a French model. :lol: Again if you have some proof its your responsibility to provide it since you eluded to it. We will have to conclude you cannot prove what you eluded to if you try to avoid providing proof. You wouldn't want us to question your veracity.
 
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SLC said:
The payments to Stormy Daniels were not an in kind campaign contribution according former FEC Chairman Bradley Smith. Professor Smith who teaches FEC law at a law school says the payment has other non election reasons for being paid. Trump wanted to conceal the affair from Melanea and his kids and to protect his Trump brand. The SDNY probably realize they just did not have a winnable case. My wife was a Federal court reporter for over 30 years. She has always said if Federal Prosecutors don't have a winnable case they don't play. That is why the Feds win 95 plus percent of the cases they prosecute.




Former FEC Chairman To Mark Levin: Stormy Daniels Money Cannot Be In Kind Campaign Contribution | Daily Wire
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Well, you know what? There are just few problems with that defense. First of all there is the close proximity of the payments to the election. Secondly the plaintiff who was payed off specifically threatened to go public before the election unless she received payment. Third Trump initially lied in saying right there on Air Force 1 that any such payment had been made and referred any further questions about it to his personal attorney Mr Cohen. Who later testified that he was "directed by his client Mr Trump to make the payment in a manner where it could not be directly attributed to him or his campaign. So Mr Trump remains an unnamed co-conspirator in that case
 
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MovingPictures said:
Then why did Cohen plead guilty to it? No lawyer on Earth has a client plead guilty to a noncrime.
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Because they had him by the short hairs. He did it to avoid even more serious charges for his personal crimes that had nothing to do with Trump. People plead to crimes they didn't do to avoid more exposure all the time.


Indicting a former President - their only option - would not be an easy public case to win, which I believe was a large part of the reason they are closing it now.
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They had a non winnable case so they dropped it. If they could have won the case it would have been a feather in the cap for any liberal prosecutor. It would be a career builder. Honestly the former Chairman of the FEC knows FEC law and he says they don't have a case.
 
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SLC said:
You know not everything on the internet is true. But I am a French model. :lol: Again if you have some proof its your responsibility to provide it since you eluded to it. We will have to conclude you cannot prove what you eluded to if you try to avoid providing proof. You wouldn't want us to question your veracity.
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Jesus God Almighty! It's "alluded", not eluded. And please just stop,with you wife being a court reporter horse****. That doesn't mean a damn thing.
 
Atomic Kid said:
Well, you know what? There are just few problems with that defense. First of all there is the close proximity of the payments to the election. Secondly the plaintiff who was payed off specifically threatened to go public before the election unless she received payment. Third Trump initially lied in saying right there on Air Force 1 that any such payment had been made and referred any further questions about it to his personal attorney Mr Cohen. Who later testified that he was "directed by his client Mr Trump to make the payment in a manner where it could not be directly attributed to him or his campaign. So Mr Trump remains an unnamed co-conspirator in that case
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Makes no difference because the payment had duel purpose. To protect his imagine during an election AND to prevent Melanea and His family for finding out about the affair. And to protect the Trump brand name.

Now read Professor Smith's quote slowly. You can mouth the words if you need to.

Professor Smith added, “When the FEC wrote the regulation that says what constitutes campaign expenditures and what constitutes personal use, it rejected specifically the idea that a campaign expenditure was anything related to a campaign, and instead says it has to be something that exists only because of the campaign and solely for that reason.”
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MovingPictures said:
Trump Org executives unlikely to be charged, sources say - CNNPolitics

This is very surprising to me. All of the evidence against the Trump Org was so damning. From the checks to the recorded calls, it appeared to be a slam dunk case. I'm going to guess that the SDNY decided that waiting to indict Trump in 2021 just wasn't practical, and would be too political for the office.

What this ought to tell Democrats is that investigating Trump to 'get' him is pointless. He's a rich elitist with the power of the Presidency, who for all pratical purposes IS above the law right now. The only way to end this is to go and beat him at the polls, and just send him back to NY.
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Democrats have been barking up the wrong tree since Nov 2016. If SDNY had anything on Trump & Co, believe me, they would have gone for it. As obsessed as they were to get Trump even they have to now acknowledge that you can't get blood out of a turnip.
 
Atomic Kid said:
Jesus God Almighty! It's "alluded", not eluded. And please just stop,with you wife being a court reporter horse****. That doesn't mean a damn thing.
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And there you have it folks! :lol: When they turn into Spelling and Grammar teachers on the internet you know you have won your augment. Its like clock work. :lamo
 
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