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    Re: Prosecutors unlikely to charge Trump Org executives

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    That is the practical political impact regardless if we like it or not. Barr and Trump have horribly perverted and distorted the final report so badly that it has lost its potential impact and its conclusions are swept under the rug.
    How have they peverted and distorted it? Are you saying that people can not make up their own minds about it, because two people told them not to?

    If so, what does that say about the democratic run house, if anything?

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    Re: Prosecutors unlikely to charge Trump Org executives

    Quote Originally Posted by sjmay View Post
    How have they peverted and distorted it? Are you saying that people can not make up their own minds about it, because two people told them not to?

    If so, what does that say about the democratic run house, if anything?
    YES - lots and lots and lots of people have been misled by Barr and Trump and will go no further than their untruthful misinterpretation of the Mueller Report saying it cleared him and absolved him of wrongdoing. Both of which are blatant lies to anyone who has read the report.
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    Re: Prosecutors unlikely to charge Trump Org executives

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    There is a huge chasm of difference between not being able to meet the high legal standards of obtaining a conviction in court and your assumption that the system made a conclusion that he did not do these things. In between those two sides of the Grand Canyon is a hell of a lot of space.

    And the system itself protects Trump from any prosecution for crimes such as obstruction of justice - something which the Mueller Report outlined rather clearly and many different times.



    And what happens in the intervening four years especially if politicians are failing individual citizens who then feel the system has failed them?
    Those are all political arguments. The Democrats took the the House two years after Trump. That's an answer. They are gearing up to choose someone to challenge him next year. That's another one.
    Trump won in 2016 because many people felt the system was failing them. They went out and voted. I am not understanding why that is not a sufficient option for those who think Trump is failing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athanasius68 View Post
    Those are all political arguments. The Democrats took the the House two years after Trump. That's an answer. They are gearing up to choose someone to challenge him next year. That's another one.
    Trump won in 2016 because many people felt the system was failing them. They went out and voted. I am not understanding why that is not a sufficient option for those who think Trump is failing them.
    Actually it is simple reality.

    The Democrats retaking the House could be important and it could not really mean anything if they do not do anything with that power. In the eyes of many people, they are doing precious little.

    Telling people to wait until 2021 does noting to solve the problem of Trump today.

    Trump won in 2016 because the Russians helped him and the Electoral College overrode the will of the American people while failing to do its job as outlined in Federalist 68.
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    Re: Prosecutors unlikely to charge Trump Org executives

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    YES - lots and lots and lots of people have been misled by Barr and Trump and will go no further than their untruthful misinterpretation of the Mueller Report saying it cleared him and absolved him of wrongdoing. Both of which are blatant lies to anyone who has read the report.
    Got it, so everyone who doesn;t believe the mueller report is a lemming, and you are the only one fighting for right.....holy **** you are a blowhard....I think you belong on Capitol Hill with that empty rhetoric.

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    Re: Prosecutors unlikely to charge Trump Org executives

    Quote Originally Posted by MovingPictures View Post
    Trump Org executives unlikely to be charged, sources say - CNNPolitics

    This is very surprising to me. All of the evidence against the Trump Org was so damning. From the checks to the recorded calls, it appeared to be a slam dunk case. I'm going to guess that the SDNY decided that waiting to indict Trump in 2021 just wasn't practical, and would be too political for the office.

    What this ought to tell Democrats is that investigating Trump to 'get' him is pointless. He's a rich elitist with the power of the Presidency, who for all pratical purposes IS above the law right now. The only way to end this is to go and beat him at the polls, and just send him back to NY.
    What was damning was the reporting. They distort the facts and make up the rest.

    You bet. Beat him at the polls and go socialist and open borders. That will teach ‘em....
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    Re: Prosecutors unlikely to charge Trump Org executives

    Quote Originally Posted by sjmay View Post
    Got it, so everyone who doesn;t believe the mueller report is a lemming, and you are the only one fighting for right.....holy **** you are a blowhard....I think you belong on Capitol Hill with that empty rhetoric.
    I would not use the word LEMMING.

    Unthinking partisan - okay.

    Insulting me by name calling like "blowhard" is not debate. You should be ashamed.
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    Re: Prosecutors unlikely to charge Trump Org executives

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    It was never a "slam dunk". We kept on telling you that but you kept listening to Maddow and friends because they kept telling you what you wanted to hear. You're STILL looking for people to tell you what you want to hear and you're STILL shocked and amazed when Trump doesn't catch fire and burn.
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    Re: Prosecutors unlikely to charge Trump Org executives

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Actually it is simple reality.

    The Democrats retaking the House could be important and it could not really mean anything if they do not do anything with that power. In the eyes of many people, they are doing precious little.

    Telling people to wait until 2021 does noting to solve the problem of Trump today.

    Trump won in 2016 because the Russians helped him and the Electoral College overrode the will of the American people while failing to do its job as outlined in Federalist 68.
    Trump won because HRC was terrible candidate that the Democrats hoisted on the American people and Trump simply out worked her.

    The will the American people is that we follow the Constitution.


    And if the Democrats don’t come to grips with those realities he will win again in2020
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    Re: Prosecutors unlikely to charge Trump Org executives

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Well, it is proof that there is no god.
    You have to give credit when credit is due. That was funny
    Democrats think walls are immoral and late term abortions aren't. The world is going crazy.
    2800 subpoenas, 500 interviews, 300 search warrants, 40 FBI Agents, 19 Lawyers, 13 different countries = No Collusion

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